He may have overreacted, but he’s pretty balsy to throw out over 100 people. I’ve been waiting for that to happen at a local Little League game for years, and I’ve been at a couple of games where the crowd may well have deserved the boot.
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You can only through out those you saw being rowdy. Anyone who he didn’t see being rowdy has a valid complaint.
You can only [I][B]throw [/B][/I]out those you saw being rowdy. Anyone who he didn't see being rowdy has a valid complaint.
I can’t wait to be thrown out of a game, got an evil eye from a ref once. It would be an honor to know for sure that i’m in a refs/umps head.
I can't wait to be thrown out of a game, got an evil eye from a ref once. It would be an honor to know for sure that i'm in a refs/umps head.I almost got thrown out of one of our bball games and a club lax game. It's a great feeling knowing that the ref is more focused on you than the game
I almost got thrown out of one of our bball games and a club lax game. It's a great feeling knowing that the ref is more focused on you than the game
I’d prefer he be focused on the game. Refs are terrible as it is. Why would I want them to be more terrible? The reason I heckle is so that he’ll know he’s bad and try to get better. You don’t heckle officials to get in their heads. You heckle opposing players and coaches for that reason, but you want refs on your side or at least to be fair.
[B]You can only through out those you saw being rowdy.[/B] Anyone who he didn't see being rowdy has a valid complaint.
Apparently he can throw out whomever he wants!:ohmy:
Nice job!
I'd prefer he be focused on the game. Refs are terrible as it is. Why would I want them to be more terrible? [B]The reason I heckle is so that he'll know he's bad and try to get better.[/B] You don't heckle officials to get in their heads. You heckle opposing players and coaches for that reason, but you want refs on your side or at least to be fair.
Thanks for the clarification. I thought people heckled refs because they are losers.
I am sure refs lay awake at night trying to think of ways to get better because the guy in section 103, row 3, seat 12 yelled “You suck”.
Now if they were using vulgar language, getting extremely close when they should be in their seats or throwing stuff I would understand but arguing and yelling? Isn’t that what fans are suppose to do to show their dismay with calls?! I know people can take it a little overboard but I have never seen an instance when 100 or more people needed to be thrown out. That is absurd!!
Refs need to do their jobs and not police the crowd, that is what security or the police are for. If they catch someone doing something stupid that is o.k. but when you are that focused on the crowd then you are not doing your job!!
[QUOTE=49timesthelovin;413964]I’d prefer he be focused on the game. Refs are terrible as it is. Why would I want them to be more terrible? The reason I heckle is so that he’ll know he’s bad and try to get better. You don’t heckle officials to get in their heads. You heckle opposing players and coaches for that reason, but you want refs on your side or at least to be fair.[/QUOTE]
If that’s the case, then why not heckle our team, since it “makes them do better”?
Trust me… if your purpose for heckling a ref is to “make him do better” you might want to remain silent. He’s not going to think “oh, that kid just made fun of me… I should try harder next time!”
[QUOTE]He said he had to take action because fans were being unruly, yelling and arguing[/QUOTE]
Sounds like true sports fans to me.
During the past few years, I can think of a few umps that would have probably loved to throw the Niner fans out of a baseball game.
And yes, the umps did suck at what they did and they deserved to be told.
umps are not cops, they are paid by the organization who scheduled the game, in this case a HS conference. They have no jurisdiction in the stands except if the stands are intruding on a game field inside the field of play (throwing ice, objects, batteries in philly, etc).
If the fans refused to leave, he could call the game a forfeit and go home, but no conference would uphold that.
The game would be replayed with another umpire and this guy would never work again.
An umpires job is to govern the field of play, nothing outside the fence. Thats why there is “security”
If your goal is to get in an Ump’s head and get tossed from a ballgame you have a lot of underlying issues.
I have yelled at Umps - but would be embarrassed and ashamed (not proud) to be escorted from a sporting event.
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The game would be replayed with another umpire and this guy would never work again.
An umpires job is to govern the field of play, nothing outside the fence. Thats why there is “security”[/QUOTE]
Evidently, there was no security there because he had to call the cops. Around here, the school-assigned officer is usually at all pay-to-get-in events and events with larger crowds. He calls for backup when needed, and I’ve seen that on a few occasions.
I doubt this guy will work a game around there anymore. The conference and other area teams will blackball him. I hope to hear his side of the story, as I’m sure he felt threatened to pull such a measure. The weird thing is, if he felt that threatened one would assume throwing out the threat casters would make things even worse.
Some former softball teammates of mine were playing a tournament in Dallas (NC) and one of the teams became very hostile with umpire. A few of their players followed him out to his car. When he pulled a gun from his trunk and fired it in the air, they calmed their @ss down. :ohmy:
Read some of the incidents in this report and you’ll see why some umpires are so leery of both players and fans.
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Evidently, there was no security there because he had to call the cops. Around here, the school-assigned officer is usually at all pay-to-get-in events and events with larger crowds. He calls for backup when needed, and I've seen that on a few occasions.I doubt this guy will work a game around there anymore. The conference and other area teams will blackball him. I hope to hear his side of the story, as I’m sure he felt threatened to pull such a measure. The weird thing is, if he felt that threatened one would assume throwing out the threat casters would make things even worse.
Some former softball teammates of mine were playing a tournament in Dallas (NC) and one of the teams became very hostile with umpire. A few of their players followed him out to his car. When he pulled a gun from his trunk and fired it in the air, they calmed their @ss down. :ohmy:
Read some of the incidents in this report and you’ll see why some umpires are so leery of both players and fans.
[COLOR=black]NASO.org: Officials Under Assault - Update 2002[/COLOR]
Welcome to softball in Gaston County. The ump that had the gun was actually umping on another field. When I saw him head to the parking lot I headed to the woods. YT had pissed his pants and was curled up in the back of his Royal Blue Talon crying. We laughed.:lol:
If your goal is to get in an Ump's head and get tossed from a ballgame you have a lot of underlying issues.I have yelled at Umps - but would be embarrassed and ashamed (not proud) to be escorted from a sporting event.
I’ve never understood this. I get why yelling at the refs is necessary, but “getting in their heads?” I want the ref to make the right calls (not the calls that go my team’s way, the RIGHT calls) and I want him to be afraid of the response he’ll get if he screws my team over, but I’m not sure why being thrown out of the game would be a positive. It isn’t a badge of honor and it doesn’t make you super-masculine and cool. It either means that the ref is overreacting (like when Robert Ferrin and I think someone else on here got tossed for NOTHING at the UMass game a few years back) or it means that you don’t understand when to back off. The goal is to get in the other team’s head, not the refs, who you want to be impartial.
I'd prefer he be focused on the game. Refs are terrible as it is. Why would I want them to be more terrible? The reason I heckle is so that he'll know he's bad and try to get better. You don't heckle officials to get in their heads. You heckle opposing players and coaches for that reason, but you want refs on your side or at least to be fair.
Refs are terrible? who? all of them? easy to say from someone who doesnt have one of the most unthankable jobs in sports.
I heard some more detail on this story listening to the podcast of Monday’s Dan Patrick show. It seems the visiting West Burlington coach came out to argue a fair/foul call with the ump. The Winfield-Mount Union coach tried to pull a sneaky and send his runner home claiming that “time” had not been called before the argument started. The ump promptly sent the Winfield-Mount Union runner back to third, and the crowd went crazy. When they got more and more hostile, he threw them out. He had to borrow a cell phone to call the police in order to get them to leave, because no school administrator was present. Winfield-Mount Union was up 11-3 at this point in the game, so I really don’t get why their fans were so bent out of shape. The West Burlington Superintendent arrived and then convinced the ump to continue the game and let the fans remain so long as they ceased the hostility. After the delay finally ended, the game continued and West Burlington scored 9 unanswered runs to win 12-11.