16th biggest D1 school without football

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Apparently, we are the 16th largest D1 institution based on total enrollment to not have football. I was under the impression we were the largest or near the top without football. Saw this list. Not sure how this will translate in quotes.

[QUOTE]Institution Conference Division State ā€œUndergraduate
Enrollementā€ ā€œGraduate
Enrollmentā€ "Total
Enrollment"
Long Beach State University Big West Conference I CA 30,607 6,263 36,870
California State University, Fullerton Big West Conference I CA 31,250 5,380 36,630
California State University, Northridge Big West Conference I CA 28,281 6,279 34,560
Virginia Commonwealth University Colonial Athletic Association I VA 22,163 8,149 30,312
Boston University America East Conference I MA 18,733 11,218 29,951
George Mason University Colonial Athletic Association I VA 18,589 10,944 29,533
University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Horizon League I WI 24,395 4,943 29,338
University of Texas at San Antonio Southland Conference I TX 24,705 3,828 28,533
Utah Valley State College Independent I UT 23,840 3,581 27,421
Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapol The Summit League I IN 21,202 6,052 27,254
Georgia State University Colonial Athletic Association I GA 19,904 6,571 26,475
University of California, Irvine Big West Conference I CA 21,696 4,353 26,049
University of Texas at Arlington Southland Conference I TX 19,205 5,620 24,825
George Washington University Atlantic 10 Conference I DC 10,813 13,718 24,531
University of Illinois at Chicago Horizon League I IL 15,672 7,718 23,390
University of North Carolina, Charlotte Atlantic 10 Conference I NC 17,598 4,790 22,388
DePaul University Big East Conference I IL 15,024 7,353 22,377
Old Dominion University Colonial Athletic Association I VA 16,066 6,221 22,287
University of California, Santa Barbara Big West Conference I CA 18,415 2,895 21,310
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Apparently, we are the 16th largest D1 instituiton based on total enrollment to not have football. I was under the impression we were the largest or near the top without football. Saw this list. Not sure how this will translate in quotes.

I wonder if all of these schools are trying to get football too.

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I know that Old Dominion will start playing in 2010 but they are two schools beneath us on that list

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Hey, Lefty, can you list the Div. 1A schools with the smallest enrollments that have football. I think that list might even be more telling. For instance, I did not realize until last week that Clemsonā€™s enrollment is only 17,500. Isnā€™t Wake Forestā€™s and Dukeā€™s enrollment about 1/4 to 1/2 of Charlotteā€™s. Most people think that they are much larger. Many things go into public perception, but football has the largest impact on that perception.

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i know wake forest is the smallest BCS school with football based on undergraduate enrollment, with just over 4,000.

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Arenā€™t Ga St, VCU, & UTSA trying to get football?

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[QUOTE=jfickett;303209]i know wake forest is the smallest BCS school with football based on undergraduate enrollment, with just over 4,000.[/QUOTE]

Actually, Tulsa has the smallest number of students for a D-1 program, undergraduate only or graduate included. Wake has 4,412 undergraduates, and Tulsa had 4,165 total students (includes graduates). Rice also has less undergraduate students than Wake with 3,001.

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No longer living in Charlotte, we donā€™t always hear all the latest on UNCC and their quest for a football team. I know committees have met and study after study done, but have they asked alumni to what degree they would be willing to financially support a football team? My wife and I both are UNCC alumni. I know for a fact that they have our phone number and mailing address (they keep calling for donations). I have yet to get a call or a receive a survey in the mail asking if we would be willing to financially support this venture. We both graduated back in the late 90ā€™s and the whole time we were there, getting a football team was always one of those things most seemed to want, but were afraid to pursue simply because of Bonnie Cone. I even remember doing in depth feasibility studies (for class projects) on the issue for some of my business classes hoping they might lead somewhere. But they obviously never did.

Will Spangler and Friday have to be pushing up daisies before anyone will have the nads to seriously pursue this? We live in Raleigh. The support Carolina and State has for their programs is insane (as most anyone can tell you). They have a lot of alumni who throw an awful lot of money at those schools because of those football programs. Itā€™s almost a religion for some.

I think that what we (as UNCC grads) all want as much as a football team is that spiritā€¦ something thatā€™s always been somewhat lacking. Donā€™t get me wrong, we have a good b-ball program, but it just doesnā€™t have the draw a football team would. Academics is extremely important, but Iā€™ve never seen anyone swell with excitement and sing a fight song until theyā€™re hoarse for a good business lecture.

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[QUOTE=nomad;303220]but were afraid to pursue simply because of Bonnie Cone.[/QUOTE]

Bonnie Cone had nothing to do with football being or not being at Charlotte. That myth about her son is just that. She had everything to do with us being.

[QUOTE=nomad;303220]
Will Spangler and Friday have to be pushing up daisies before anyone will have the nads to seriously pursue this?
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Itā€™s seriously being pursued now. Weā€™re waiting on the Chancellor to say ā€œyayā€ or ā€œnayā€ anytime now.

[QUOTE=nomad;303220]Academics [B]are[/B] extremely important, but Iā€™ve never seen anyone swell with excitement and sing a fight song until theyā€™re hoarse for a good business lecture.[/QUOTE]

Metro would be proud.

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I know committees have met and study after study done, but have they asked alumni to what degree they would be willing to financially support a football team? My wife and I both are UNCC alumni. I know for a fact that they have our phone number and mailing address (they keep calling for donations). I have yet to get a call or a receive a survey in the mail asking if we would be willing to financially support this venture. We both graduated back in the late 90's and the whole time we were there, getting a football team was always one of those things most seemed to want, but were afraid to pursue simply because of Bonnie Cone. I even remember doing in depth feasibility studies (for class projects) on the issue for some of my business classes hoping they might lead somewhere. But they obviously never did.

Welcome to the board Nomad. Not to pick on you but can we try to get rid of the Bonnie Cone rumors, especially from somebody who supports the program. We do not have/ have not had football because of finances. All of the Bonnie Cone rumors are bogus.

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Apparently, we are the 16th largest D1 institution based on total enrollment to not have football. I was under the impression we were the largest or near the top without football. Saw this list. Not sure how this will translate in quotes.
Institution Conference Division State "Undergraduate Enrollement" "Graduate Enrollment" "Total Enrollment" Long Beach State University Big West Conference I CA 30,607 6,263 36,870 California State University, Fullerton Big West Conference I CA 31,250 5,380 36,630 California State University, Northridge Big West Conference I CA 28,281 6,279 34,560 Virginia Commonwealth University Colonial Athletic Association I VA 22,163 8,149 30,312 Boston University America East Conference I MA 18,733 11,218 29,951 George Mason University Colonial Athletic Association I VA 18,589 10,944 29,533 University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Horizon League I WI 24,395 4,943 29,338 University of Texas at San Antonio Southland Conference I TX 24,705 3,828 28,533 Utah Valley State College Independent I UT 23,840 3,581 27,421 Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapol The Summit League I IN 21,202 6,052 27,254 Georgia State University Colonial Athletic Association I GA 19,904 6,571 26,475 University of California, Irvine Big West Conference I CA 21,696 4,353 26,049 University of Texas at Arlington Southland Conference I TX 19,205 5,620 24,825 George Washington University Atlantic 10 Conference I DC 10,813 13,718 24,531 University of Illinois at Chicago Horizon League I IL 15,672 7,718 23,390 University of North Carolina, Charlotte Atlantic 10 Conference I NC 17,598 4,790 22,388 DePaul University Big East Conference I IL 15,024 7,353 22,377 Old Dominion University Colonial Athletic Association I VA 16,066 6,221 22,287 University of California, Santa Barbara Big West Conference I CA 18,415 2,895 21,310

Notice how many schools are hyphenated too? Name change! Name change!

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ā€œAll of the Bonnie Cone rumors are bogus.ā€

Thanks for clearing that up. Like I said, the last time I had anything to with it was back in the 90ā€™s. At that time, that was the main reason circulating. No one (with any authority) ever wanted to seriously talk about it so thatā€™s what we had to go on. I am at least glad to see a serious dialog has started.

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[QUOTE=nomad;303232]ā€œAll of the Bonnie Cone rumors are bogus.ā€

Thanks for clearing that up. Like I said, the last time I had anything to with it was back in the 90ā€™s. At that time, that was the main reason circulating. No one (with any authority) ever wanted to seriously talk about it so thatā€™s what we had to go on. I am at least glad to see a serious dialog has started.[/QUOTE]

Funny thing is that Bonnie was never married and had no kids. That kills most of the rumors right away. Welcome to NNN. If you havenā€™t yet, visit the [URL=http://www.ninernation.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=64][B][U][COLOR=DarkGreen]football forum[/COLOR][/U][/B][/URL]. It has a wealth of information and threads that would catch you up and fill you in all of the details of what has happened.

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[QUOTE=Normmm;303230]Notice how many schools are hyphenated too? Name change! Name change![/QUOTE]

I noticed that, too. 10 out of the 20 teams are hyphen type schools. Branch campuses, sister schools, extensions whatever you want to call them. The UNC system wants to keep it that way for us.

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Long Beach State University - Dropped football 1992
California State University, Fullerton - Dropped football 1993
California State University, Northridge - Dropped 2001
Virginia Commonwealth University - No word on a program
Boston University - Dropped 1998
George Mason University - Club team looking into sponsoring a varisty team.
University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee - Dropped 1975
University of Texas at San Antonio - Just passed the board to start a team
Utah Valley University (changed name this year) - process of looking into football
IUPUI - No study or interest
Georgia State University - approved team and should start by 2012
University of California, Irvine - Dropped team 1978
University of Texas at Arlington - Passed study, now need to be approved
George Washington University - no interest in team
University of Illinois at Chicago - No interest in team
[B]Charlotte we all know[/B]
DePaul University - No interest
Old Dominion University - team takes field in 2010
University of California, Santa Barbara - Dropped 1975

The thing about each of these programs are they are either bringing the programs back or they dropped them at crucial times. The 1970ā€™s were the reclassifying DI status so teams dropped the program because lack of funding. The late 1990ā€™s was the more break down and conference realignment which caused basically ALL CA teams to drop and a few others because they lost conference affiliations with the new subdivisions.

Basically the NCAA has hurt these schools and some are coming back with football, others arenā€™t because they can not find a suitable conference. If you notice many of these schools are in non-football conference and it is no push. The others that are have been making the studies and steps forward.

As I said in another topic, the death of Charlotte football will be the conference affiliation. With the goal to take USA or USF move and jump after a few years hurts them because they do not have an initial conference to make this move from. Hopefully the board approves and the moratorium gives the 49ers an opening.

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[QUOTE=X-49er;303215]Actually, Tulsa has the smallest number of students for a D-1 program, undergraduate only or graduate included. Wake has 4,412 undergraduates, and Tulsa had 4,165 total students (includes graduates). Rice also has less undergraduate students than Wake with 3,001.[/QUOTE]

He said smallest BCS school.

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[QUOTE=nomad;303232]ā€œAll of the Bonnie Cone rumors are bogus.ā€

Thanks for clearing that up. Like I said, the last time I had anything to with it was back in the 90ā€™s. At that time, that was the main reason circulating. No one (with any authority) ever wanted to seriously talk about it so thatā€™s what we had to go on. I am at least glad to see a serious dialog has started.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the board.

Here is the Football Feasibility Committeeā€™s report and recommendation to the Chancellor:

http://charlotte49ers.cstv.com/ot/ncch-footbl-feasibility.html

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Wofford has 1,176 students and plays Division I FCS football .

I think you could take every undergrad from Tulsa (C-USA), Rice (C-USA), and Wofford (SC) and not fill Halton.

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Besides GW who has no interest, we are the the only school considered to be in one of the major conferences. All the other conferences nobody really cares about. Charlotte definitely has the most potential, and most to gain from football.

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[QUOTE=ebncrdr49er;303800]Besides GW [B]and DePaul[/B], who have no interest, we are the the only school considered to be in one of the major conferences.[/QUOTE]

fixed.