No Tramaine Pride? :unhappy:
Anyone think...Harris
Bowden
Andersen/Green/Sirin
Spears
Braswellā¦might be a lineup during a game??? I think weāll see alot of this.
Harris
Bowden
Ian
Green
Sirin
ā¦ whatta line-up for a down by 3 with 5 seconds left situation. (Jones did shoot 50% from 3 last year thoughā¦lol.)^%#^#&#^%^&#& Iām EXCITED!!!
What about Wilderness or Dewhurst not starting? I think they will both be significantly better when playing with better parameter talent. That way the opposing D will be focused on the parameter threat and not in the inside threat. Both have proven they can play well at times and it usually when the outside is working for us. I am just surprised at they are not on your starting line up.
. Remember we had that supposed top 13 recruiting class a few years ago and that didn't turn out well.yes but understand why...they weren't the 13th best class talent wise, we rebooted the roster and had 5-6 signees in which you get a certain amount of "points" for each signee.
had we signed the normal 3 or 4, we would not of been ranked at all.
that ranking was a joke and everyone knew it
Hey anything can happen. It happen to Paulus at Duke (well not third string but you get my point). If Anderson can't learn to drop the shot fast, like so many before him, then he doesn't deserve to start. Third string may be a little harsh but if Green turns out to be better than expected and can drop the 3 then I have no problem with relegating Anderson to the bench!be careful.... Anders[B]o[/B]n might come on here again saying he is confused who you are talking about!!! haha
What about Wilderness or Dewhurst not starting? I think they will both be significantly better when playing with better parameter talent. That way the opposing D will be focused on the parameter threat and not in the inside threat. Both have proven they can play well at times and it usually when the outside is working for us. I am just surprised at they are not on your starting line up.wasn't a starting lineup... just a rotation.
Our 2 spot is the X factor imo.If Bowden lives up to his hype, we are a tourney team. Looks like we have def upgraded our inside game and our PG depth is resolved, now depends upon our shooters and SG / SF play.
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We gotta have people to knock down the open 3. I hope Ian and Bowden are working their @$$ off. With Braswell/Spears/Jones on the insideā¦ Ian and Bowden should be able to get a lot of good looks.SFā
I hope this is Wildernessā year. Him and Dew need to just slash slash slash AND FINISHā¦ and knock down their free throws when they get fouled on every drive.This years seems to be the first in a while that we have true position players that donāt need to play outside their normal position. We have PGā¦ shootersā¦ slashersā¦ and post/big men. I just pray the type offense Bobby runs is going to allow each person on the floor to utilize their stregnths.
Ian Andersen has no business in a division I uniform, if he logs any minutes we are screwed. I like his hustle, but his athleticism is D3. He is fine for inserting for the end of a game for some 3ās or FTs, but not any regular PT.
be careful.... Anders[B]o[/B]n might come on here again saying he is confused who you are talking about!!! haha
My bad, almost forgot that it is an e and not a o
Anyone think...Harris
Bowden
Andersen/Green/Sirin
Spears
Braswellā¦might be a lineup during a game??? I think weāll see alot of this.
Harris
Bowden
Ian
Green
Sirin
ā¦ whatta line-up for a down by 3 with 5 seconds left situation. (Jones did shoot 50% from 3 last year thoughā¦lol.)
I really donāt see us ever having a 4 guard lineup.
Ian Andersen has no business in a division I uniform, if he logs any minutes we are screwed. I like his hustle, but his athleticism is D3. He is fine for inserting for the end of a game for some 3's or FTs, but not any regular PT.
And he doesnāt fit the profile of a āBobby Lutz 3-pt shooter.ā One who when the ball is in hands he immediately sets up and throws it up for the three point shot without hesitation(See Demon Brown, Leemire Goldwire, Brendan Plavich for examples). I will admit Andersen does get hot at times but it has always bothered me that he hesitates to take the shot. Just throw it up like the ones before you!
Ian Andersen has no business in a division I uniform, if he logs any minutes we are screwed. I like his hustle, but his athleticism is D3. He is fine for inserting for the end of a game for some 3's or FTs, but not any regular PT.Come on now... there are a lot of teams in D1. He shouldn't get minutes on ANY of them???
If heās hot, heās hot. He has made some big threes to swing games when we were down by 5 or so. Canāt argue that. But if heās not hitting his 3s, yank him. One trick pony.
Iām not on the bandwagon that Ian doesnāt deserve minutes. I think heās a great guy off the bench. He is better than a lot of people weāve had sit on the end of our bench and not get in games. No, he shouldnāt play starter minutes, but a defensive liability is okay when heās rolling off your bench, dropping 9 pts and giving up 6. Iāll take that ratio out of every bench player.
Yes, it would be nice if he didnāt get torched, but if heās hot, he can pop off 20 points. 20 points off the opponentās bench is what loses us a lot of games.
And he doesn't fit the profile of a "Bobby Lutz 3-pt shooter." One who when the ball is in hands he immediately sets up and throws it up for the three point shot without hesitation(See Demon Brown, Leemire Goldwire, Brendan Plavich for examples). I will admit Anders[B]e[/B]n does get hot at times but it has always bothered me that he hesitates to take the shot. Just throw it up like the ones before you!I don't think he really hesitates, he just doesn't have an extremely quick release most the time. Even so, he brings the shot up from his chest and and doesn't raise it over his head as he releases, which is part of the reason why he gets blocked so much.
Ian Andersen has no business in a division I uniform, if he logs any minutes we are screwed. I like his hustle, but his athleticism is D3. He is fine for inserting for the end of a game for some 3's or FTs, but not any regular PT.
If Ian was not on our team last year we would have lost to Southern Illinois, UMass, that little mid major team Xavier, and the Clemson game would not have even been close.
Everyone on this board is in agreement that Ian is a streaky shooter and a terrible defender, nobody is going to argue against that, but when he gets hot he can be a big time contributor to the team.
I would not pick him for a starter, but he wasnāt supposed to be a starter last year anyway. He was supposed to back up Bowden, which we will see this year, and I feel good about that.
I'm not on the bandwagon that Ian doesn't deserve minutes. I think he's a great guy off the bench. He is better than a lot of people we've had sit on the end of our bench and not get in games. No, he shouldn't play starter minutes, but a defensive liability is okay when he's rolling off your bench, dropping 9 pts and giving up 6. I'll take that ratio out of every bench player.This.Yes, it would be nice if he didnāt get torched, but if heās hot, he can pop off 20 points. 20 points off the opponentās bench is what loses us a lot of games.
sg - Bowden / Green / Andersen
If this turns out correct --- and no job should be safe after losing 20 games --- that would mean that our top returning scorer was relegated to 3rd-string as a senior.
I was kind of thinking the same thing. A lot of the time we get overly excited about incoming guys.
Minutes wise, it makes since for Green to primarily play the 1. So that could leave more minutes at the 2 for Coleman. Also, if we seem to be effective in rebounding against a team, Coleman may get additional minutes at the 3 being the better 3 point shooter out of Wilderness and Dewhurst. If we need to bang more, then Dew and Wilderness will probably get most of the minutes. The guy did have a couple of games where he scored 20 points in a half.
For players like Sherrill, Coleman, Dewhurst, Barnett it will more than likely be a week to week situation. If one player did better in practice then they may get the nod for more playing time.
I think Dew is going to deserve more minutes than the rest of that list, but I hope my suspicions are rewarded.
I want to see if heās healthy first.
Iām of the mindset that all 5 positions should be up for grabs after an 11-20 season, though itās a given that Dijuan will be our PG and it appears that Spears is a lock as well at the 4.
I also think that we should have more lineup flexibility than weāve had in years, which is a problem getting your hands on early in the season, but can be a real asset against some of these teams that try to make you one dimensional.
Ultimately, youāll want your best 5 players out there (too much emphasis on stuff like āis he a 4 or a 5?ā), but I like what we should be able to do if teams try to zone us and play slowdown ball this year - two things that have killed us recently. We should have more shooters, more rebounding, and with better depth, can turn up the pressure on defense to increase the game tempo (which is a plus for Bobbyās system).
I think Jones has shown he deserves the start at 5 and Harris has shown he deserves the start at 1, the rest I think are a push. Wilderness isnāt as good as we want him to be yet. Spears probably will be the starter at 4 but I think he should earn it. 2 guard is going to be by committee, Iām afraid, until some shows they can own the position. I donāt know that we have that on our team right now. I think 3 will be up for grabs unless Wilderness really breaks out or Dewhurst fulfills his potential. Either way, I think weāre solid but not fantastic at that position.
If Ian was not on our team last year we would have lost to Southern Illinois, UMass, that little mid major team Xavier, and the Clemson game would not have even been close. Everyone on this board is in agreement that Ian is a streaky shooter and a terrible defender, nobody is going to argue against that, but when he gets hot he can be a big time contributor to the team. I would not pick him for a starter, but he wasn't supposed to be a starter last year anyway. He was supposed to back up Bowden, which we will see this year, and I feel good about that.
You sort of contradict yourself in that post, you praise his performance but then say he should never of been in the gameā¦ I agree he made some contributions in those games, but he wasnāt supposed to be on the court to begin with. What I am saying is if Ian has any integral part of our gameplan, weāre Fād and we will have a losing record again. He is not a D1 talent. Lots of D3 guys could come light it up 5 out of 25 games. Iāll take someone long and quick who scores 8 every night over Ian anyday.
He may have won us 5 games, but him on the court is a major reason we lost 20 games.
I think Ian can play D1 but not at our level (or where our level should be).
He would be a nice fit somwhere like UNC-A or something on that level but if he plays major minutes for us, thatās not a good sign.