100% with Rob. If Snachez can win, heās my guy. Otherwise time to move on.
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That is a lie, but you stay positive
Umm. Not a lie. As soon as a new coach is named there will undoubtedly be a āfire xxxxxx Coachā thread started.
My problem with Sanchez is a bad Coach with an even worse system for the fans. I would be more excited if the product did not just wear me down.
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I think some people just donāt get how far we have tanked, tanked, tanked and tanked, or what we were before the pit of hell we are in now. If you do and you are positive, shame on you. Here you go, best I explain:
The Niners have had made the NCAA Tournament 11 times. 10 of the 11 appearances happened during a 17 year stretch. The last Niners NCAA Tournament appearance was 17 years ago.
The Niners made the NIT 7 times, Subtracting the NCAA Tournament years during the NIT period after a 1976 appearance, 6 of the NIT appearances were in a period of about 14 years, the last 3 being 2006, 2008 and 2013.
Ron Sanchez 50-64 since 2018 In a weak conference
Fancher 3-17 Poor guy
Mark Price NBA Legend 31-43 2015-2017 Remember talks of him leaving for a better gig?
Ryan Odom 8-11 His dad was great, somewhere else.
Alan Major 67-70 2010-2015 Almost .500 seems like elite compared to Sanchez
VS
Bobby Lutz 218-158 in superior conference 1998-2010 5 NCAAās HC + 2 as AC, 1 Conference title (it was a great conference most of the tenure)
Melvin Watkins 42-20 Ditto 1996-1998 2 NCAAās , 1 conference title
Jeff Mullins 183-141 1985-1996 2 NCAAās, 2 conference titles
Honorable Late Lee Rose 72-18 1 NCAA to the Final WHUT? Whuts a final 4 mean?
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I think we are all aware of those numbers. Painfully aware.
No one has been happy since Judy Fād this all up, first with the A10 move and then firing Bobby and beyond.
Ron looked like just about as sure a thing as possible. He has had 2 winning records and two losing records. He had his second team playing well seeded 4th going into the CUSA tourny when covid shut it down. His 3rd team had some major covid impacts on a few of his players. Last years team still mostly won at home and finished with a winning record.
This is not to say I like like Ron as our coach or that I think he is the answer. It is to say though that he has had a winning record 2 out of the last 3 years and the one he didnāt was excusable. Last year I was pretty much done with him, but he did have a winning record and heās back so all I can do is root for him and the team. I donāt think itās out of the question we do well, just unlikely.
All I know is the alternative is to root against us and our athletes or not support them. I am not doing that. If Ron blows it this year then we can turn up the heat on him through the AD.
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The dark place weāre in isnāt on Judy anymore. Itās been way too long to keep bringing her name up anymore. All this is on Hill now period. Judy is just an easy and safe target.
Healy was a failure and Sanchez is a flat out disaster. Was he a good hire on paper? Sure but itās not translated to the court whatsoever. Iāll give props for Woodard. He looked to be a HR hire.
All this is on Hill and Hill alone, he needs to make the next two big hires be solid in Football and damn good in Hoops imho.
And just for the record, the A10 was a damn good hoops conf at the time. We just werent good in it
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Sanchezās Covid team was actually pretty good and fairly fun to watch. They may have done some things in the league tournament. Didnāt they drill Davidson and beat Wake in Halton? Thatās the one I know Ron wishes he had back. That had to hurt. Not as bad as say Dayton that year - they had their best team EVER and were likely headed to the Final Four, but you get the idea.
I think this is the year Hill makes a call on Sanchez. There is no way he wants to replace both revenue sports coaches at the same time, during the Evergreen campaign.
So letās all hope that Sanchez has a great season. Even if you donāt like his style, his personality, etc. We donāt need any more problems right now.
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Listened to the Podcast! Jeremy is pretty good. Looking forward to listening to more of his Podcasts. Seems like he is basing his analysis on 1 practice, but he knows his basketball. I also think he will be honest.
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The only reason I brought up Judy is if you are going back to final 4 team comparing where we were to where we are then shes a part of it.
Ron hasnāt been good, but he hasnāt been a disaster. He just hasnāt been good enough. Regardless of how I feel about him, I am not holding the coivd year against him. That team had to deal with shit more important than basketball. That means his teams have gone, 8-21, 16-13, 17-14. No that isnāt good, but it isnāt a disaster and that is what is likely so frustrating about Ron and his style. It isnāt bad, but it feels bad.
GAMES OF INTEREST, NOV 7th
(final scores as of 10:45 PM)
Coppin State 59
CHARLOTTE 82
Lynn (D-II) 46
FAU 81
Houston Christian 66
FIU 77
Mississippi College (D-II)
LA Tech
Brescia (NAIA) 52
Middle Tennessee 79
Southern Nazarene (D-II) 47
North Texas 53
Rice
Pepperdine
Alabama State 70
UAB 111
UTEP
#12 Texas
Trinity (D-III) 47
UTSA 74
Warren Wilson (D-III) 74
App State 142
UC Riverside
Colorado
Guilford (D-III) 64
Davidson 87
Fairleigh Dickinson 82
Loyola Chicago 88
Carolina U (NCCAA) 42
Presbyterian 76
UL Monroe
Texas A&M
Murray State 68
Saint Louis 91
Central Connecticut 67
UMass 94
UMES 65
ODU 84
= potential MBI opponent
Why do we excuse Covid years, every coach and every program had to deal with it, and yet some coaches and programs were still able to motivate, execute and perform
No disrespect intended, but this negativity towards the program is a good thing, great programs have high standards and when those standards are not met the fan base reacts with negativity and this causes change, and I know that you are referring more to the comments, but these frustrated fans that make these comments also are the ones that put pressure on administrators to fire underachieving coaches and ADs, they are the people that got us to start football in the first place, they are the ones who forced out Rose and her hires, complained about a lack of progress of the facility master plan, and continue to criticize Hills coaching picks, I dont see a negative fan base, I see a fan base with a hunger and desire to be great, and they may express it with negative comments but that is better than sitting back and accepting, even celebrating underachievement and mediocrity
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Well written. you make me want to be more negative now so I can be the best fan I can be
Because while all teams and coaches had to deal with Covid, not all teams were impacted by Covid equally. Some teams werenāt impacted other than disrupting practice schedules. Some of our players weāre significantly impacted by Covid - not them, but their families. Iām not going to hold a season against a coach where some 19/20 year old kids were more worried about family in ICU and deaths over playing a game. You can hold that against them if you want, but Iām not that guy.
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There is a balance. I was probably the most vocal anti Judy person out there. Part of that was because she was bad and part was because she refused to listen.
I havenāt been overly critical of MIke because honestly Iām happy with everything except football and basketball and football he just did something about and basketball we will see where this year lands.
With just about everything else Iām good. From AAC to master plan. Iām thrilled.
My biggest thing is that even when I was my most angry at Judy I still went to games, I still donated and I still supported the team. I also gave her more than enough time to build something before I turned on her. Hunger and desire are great but negatively to illogical levels will actually make that harder.
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Breaking! The #firejudy crowd got their way years ago (well she was not firedā¦ maybe that is why you are still mad)ā¦ but good god - you have to let it go. Every time I come on here (or Twitter before I deleted my account last week) there are a couple of very influential members blaming Judy. The things Judy did FOR the University that we all (ok some of us) love FAR out weighs the perceived negatives YEARS ago at this point. Not to mention, since then she has become a personal friend of my family and she is a sweet, sharp woman whom still LOVES her Niners, her school, and is still very actively involved.
As the very wise Else once said:
Let it go, let it go
I am one with the wind and sky
Let it go, let it go
Youāll never see me cry
Here I stand and here I stay
Let the storm rage on
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GAMES OF INTEREST - NOV 7th
(Updated 7:10 AM)
Coppin State 59
CHARLOTTE 82
Lynn (D-II) 46
FAU 81
Houston Christian 66
FIU 77
Mississippi College (D-II) 61
LA Tech 78
Brescia (NAIA) 52
Middle Tennessee 79
Southern Nazarene (D-II) 47
North Texas 53
Rice 67
Pepperdine 106
Alabama State 70
UAB 111
UTEP 57
#12 Texas 72
Trinity (D-III) 47
UTSA 74
Warren Wilson (D-III) 74
App State 142
UC Riverside 66
Colorado 82
Guilford (D-III) 64
Davidson 87
Fairleigh Dickinson 82
Loyola Chicago 88
Carolina U (NCCAA) 42
Presbyterian 76
UL Monroe 54
Texas A&M 87
Murray State 68
Saint Louis 91
Central Connecticut 67
UMass 94
UMES 65
ODU 84
= potential MBI opponent
Agreed. I have said this time and again. She did a lot of great things for our University. Did she make a few bad hires over her decades long career , yes.
I am a Judy fan and always will be. She has not been here in a while. Just gets old after a while.
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