2022-23 Niner Basketball 🏀

Comparing Sanchez to the Final 4 team, the great teams of Melvin and Bobby, that is a new low

I just want to make the point that both of these posts can be (and are) correct. It’s possible to hold two ideas in one’s head at the same time, especially when they are both true. And we dont have to try to actively divide the board into pro and anti Sanchez camps the way everything else these days is done. We are all Niner fans. At the end of the day, I believe that we all just want to win. However, we have varying ways of dealing with it when we don’t, especially when basketball has struggled for so very long.

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And what about the games prior to aly being out? Whats the excuse there?

None, unless you want to count the three on the bench or the need of a JY on this team.

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Meh, braswell has been a non factor this year. Jallow has only played 10 games for us since he’s been here and he was also pretty meh in overall in those games.
Braswell showed some real promise last year. An extra year with Ron must have coached the talent out of him.

I don’t think having either of them would have drastically shifted the course of this season. Just bodies off the bench, not real team changers.

I don’t even know who the third is that you are referring to. Rolf?

GAME OF INTEREST - FEB 5th
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Wichita State 86
:basketball: Tulsa 75

We missed Igor at UAB and even JT., but especially Igor. Igor was probably playing the best on the team going into that game…before RS killed his confidence.

Sometimes it is just better to get a fresh start and build some excitement again. Going into the AAC with a fresh face is the way to go. I like Ron, I do, but we should be recruiting better talent.

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An important player getting sick and not having a roster prepared to navigate that is not the same as a once in century global pandemic that derails an entire season with people dying and in ICU.

I wouldn’t say we are cursed. The run from 1987-2005 was great. Sure we complained about things but every fan base does. The fact is we were winning more often than not in that time frame and could claim being the #3/4 program in state. As soon as Jeff Mullins’ fingerprints started to fade we started slipping until we are where we are today, with most of our issues being self inflicted. Given what we invest I find it hard to believe we haven’t found a winning formula in nearly 20 years.

Oddly Ron is probably the best safest hire we have made since Melvin and it hasn’t worked. I have no idea who is on Mikes short list, but it’s past time for us to win.

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Obviously, Ron was not a better or safer hire than Bobby Lutz. Come on man

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Overall mood of the fanbase when you’re going on 18 years of not making a NCAA Tournament

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In your opinion is a change likely, or are we in for another year of this?

Bobby was an assistant on a cusa team for a 3 years that never saw a top 10 ranking and was D3 HC for 10 years. Ron spent 17 yrs as an assistant up to an AHC at P5 schools including multiple NCAA appearances and top 10 rankings.

Yeah Ron was a safer hire. Obviously Bobby is a better coach.

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I really am not sure. I don’t think money is an issue given Ron’s contract and assistant pay at P5s. If Ron finishes under .500 in the league I am not sure Mike can stick with him regardless.

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Bullshit. I know you are all in on Mike Hill. I get it. However, nobody cares about paper champions who turn out to be losers. Bobby was a better higher, safer didn’t work so well

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No I’m not all in on Mike. I’m just being objective. Obviously Bobby was the better coach in hindsight, but I think Mike knew basketball needed to be turned around and hired just about as safe a pick as possible with some upside given our position and universally praised by nearly everyone of importance in the world of college basketball. It just didn’t work - or hell maybe it did. Mark Price era was awful and now we are mediocre. Program is better positioned to take the next step back than it was before Ron. Just clear Ron is at his ceiling. Next hire in basketball will be interesting. Mike swung for the fences with outside the box hires twice now in football, his traditional safe hire in basketball has washed out. Which direction does he go next?

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I apologize. I was out of line. Seriously

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We all have differing opinions and that is okay. I think the Lutz ship has sailed. I think the firing of Lutz was about more than politics. Lutz was great in CUSA but he had trouble recruiting in the Atlantic. It showed because he was not as successful after leaving CUSA. My opinion is that Lutz lived and died by the 3 point shot too much. Sometimes he had guys that could shoot it but sometimes not so much. There were times when Lutz’s teams relied too much on the three. I am one that believes in giving coaches time because you never know - the grass is not always greener. But I believe the time is getting near. Maybe not this year bc Healey was just fired but maybe next year. Look up Ben McCollum at Northwest Missouri State. The guy has a hell of a resume.

Maybe not when you consider the sheer magnitude of McCollum’s resume. The 40-year old inherited a competitive Bearcats program in 2009, one which he played for and helped lead to its first Elite Eight in 2002. But since 2013, Northwest has been in another stratosphere in Division II. The Bearcats have won three national championships (including the last two) and have made it at least as far as the Sweet 16 in six out of the last seven NCAA Tournaments.

Surrounding that postseason success have been nine regular season titles and an overall win percentage pushing 80 percent over 12 years (300-78), which is all the more remarkable when you consider McCollum oversaw losing campaigns over his first two seasons. In there have been gaudy single-season win totals, including a perfect, 38-0 season as the Bearcats captured their second national title in 2018-19.

Underpinning it all has been arguably the best offense — anywhere — in college basketball.

“He’s had a top-five offense on Synergy for six straight seasons, which means his teams are this good no matter who’s on the roster, and he’s done this despite being a defense-first coach,” said Will Warren, who runs statsbywill.com. “The first thing McCollum said to me when I asked about his offense was that he cares much more about defense and frets over that side of the ball more often, which is pretty funny for a guy who’s overseeing the best offense at any level of college hoops.”

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