4.30.19 discussion

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/local/uncc-shooting/uncc-shooter-to-plead-guilty/275-a76b7026-d54c-44cd-a4c6-af4a880e2b23

I may be showing my ignorance but I can’t believe the shooter has any room to negotiate. Not sure why a plea is even an option. Spend my tax dollars on the death penalty for this POS, not for him to live in prison the rest of his life.

Hearsay, but Drew says the shooter told police he didn’t want to pay his debts so planned this to get life in prison.

Here is my take, which I must warn is entirely mean. It is intended to be an effective deterrent for many such cowards. That is, we need to redesign and implement horrendous torture, that is scientifically determined beforehand with some thoughtful mathematical function that attempts to equate the punishment to the pain, suffering and death inflicted from a similar mass killing. Make no mistake, I am recommending that the pain and suffering be inhumane and prolonged, but based on some predetermined formula. There wouldn’t be a guy that sits on the floor stating he was done after killing and wounding so many, destroying so many family hopes and dreams, only to be rewarded 3 meals a day, a climate-controlled environment, around as many friends as they had before the evil deed. No, this punishment would not be inflicted as a random act of some tyrant, it would be a public display of horror inflicted on the criminal, which would be deemed without much subjectiveness, to be equitable to their actual crime. Atheist? Not scared of hell? Well that’s ok, but such punishment would be intended as a hell on earth. Quick death by painless lethal injection? NO WAY! Not for a mass killing. Instead, you would be kept alive by doctors during a horrendous torture that was proportionate to your crime. A hell on earth groundhog’s day. That in my opinion, would be an effective deterrent to most such cowards.

Without saying that’s a good or bad idea, it would literally take an act of Congress. So basically impossible.

Guantanamo exists

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Survey for Rememberance Commission

https://baseline.campuslabs.com/p/Project.aspx?q=53676f243bf387d8541f153690b40011e141a9ae3b39bd60cc33431a2e85b387827b98bb737e6438acc32c22c172bafa190754ef82a31bff1a9a02514bcd258be78756456de147c1175486594b5c11bc&r=f507365a-0d5d-46ad-9604-8eceeb1addf2

By way of background, the Commission is charged with leading a comprehensive process to determine how to best memorialize the lives of Reed Parlier and Riley Howell, our two students whose lives were tragically cut short on April 30; how to best remember the tragedy that occurred that day, a day that will forever be part of UNC Charlotte’s history; and what should be the future utilization of Kennedy 236, the site of the shooting.

The Commission is committed to engaging the campus community as the first step in completing its work. Hearing from students, faculty, staff, alumni, and community members about their thoughts and recommendations for a memorial, remembrance, and future use of the classroom is vitally important to the Commission’s ability to identify the best recommendations for our campus. The Commission has already hosted listening sessions for campus, alumni, and community members, but is seeking additional input. This survey provides a simple and effective way to ensure that the voices of Niner Nation — both individual and collective — are heard.

So please, take a few minutes to complete the online survey and provide the Commission with your thoughts, feedback, and recommendations. You can also submit any questions to the Commission by emailing remembrance@uncc.edu .

Thank you in advance for your input that will forever shape how we memorialize and remember this day in our history.

Philip L. Dubois

Chancellor

Corn maze honors ‘hero’ UNC Charlotte student killed in campus shooting

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article235379357.html?ac_cid=DM78429&ac_bid=1156061452

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Looks like we have scheduled an exhibition against UGA in basketball on Oct 25th to help fund our memorial. This is a great idea. Glad we have such strong leadership.

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From email:

Colleagues,

The Remembrance Commission conducted a community survey asking, among other things, “what should be the future utilization of Kennedy 236?” The response from the community was clear: “do not use it as a classroom”. What was less clear was how it should be used.

To gather the feedback from those that work in the Kennedy building, the subcommittee working on the future of Kennedy 236 will be hosting “office hours”… We will be there listening to your feedback. You don’t have to participate for the whole time, just stop by and give us your impressions of what would be appropriate use of the space.

Maybe it’s just me but I think there could be no higher honor paid to the victims than to restore this room to the purpose it was intended to serve, higher education.

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People seem to have PTSD about the room. Like, they papered over the glass walls since the incident.

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I will never step foot back in that room. And if a required class was to be held in it if it were to reopen as a classroom, I would have to transfer

I am curious as to why you feel that way.

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Stuff like this gives people very strong feelings.

I don’t blame anybody who has a connection to the U or any of those involved for not wanting to go into that room again.

I don’t think there’s a good way to handle a situation like this. Norris Hall is still in use at VT, but is now like a global peace center. Sandy Hook was torn down and rebuilt.

I believe the room should be used as a meditation/inner peace space.

Not a fan of it, it feels weird every time I walk by it even though I do multiple times a day.

Just reuse the room, If need be you could wait a little while to prevent students that were there from having a chance of having to go back, Lots of terrible things have happened lots of places and you just have to keep moving.

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I’m kinda with you there, knocking it down or turning it into a shrine means the shooter got what he wanted. Immortalizing himself as the creep that shot people at Charlotte. Now honoring the students that died on campus should happen. Naming a building after them or putting up a statue/garden or something would be awesome!

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I am sure a person’s perspective determines how they feel about the options. At a school with inadequate classroom resources, I hate to see them take this one out of service so students can no longer use it.