This⌠this year is NCAA or bust, but I donât see it happening, hopefully we go in a new direction finally if we arenât in the post season. We have been irrelevant for far to long.[/quote]
Agree with both of you.
I thought Bryan had a lot of potential and liked the way he played last year.
I like Bryan and I liked Denzel, but I look at this as a positive. The reason I say that is they are the ones competing in practice everyday and I would say they are both competitors and they must have realized there was only going to be a small roll for them for them on this team and next years team. So they made the decision for themselves to transfer somewhere where they can make a larger contribution and I have no problem with that decision. Bryan went back on his commitment to ASU because he felt like he could compete on a bigger stage, well the good news for us is as good as he is he was not going to contribute much the next 2 yrs.
Both of these transfers really only hurt us if we have and unforeseen injury or top a rotational player leaves or gets kicked off. These transfers tell me our talent level is very high, hopefully we can translate that to wins on the court.
Lose Bryan and Ingram, add Sullivan and Og.
Youâre going to have transfers these days, you just are. If we can do those 2 for 2 type swaps every year, good for us.
Good luck to Bryan and Ingram, both seemed to be really good kids.
[quote=âhootie, post:23, topic:28842â]Lose Bryan and Ingram, add Sullivan and Og.
Youâre going to have transfers these days, you just are. If we can do those 2 for 2 type swaps every year, good for us.
Good luck to Bryan and Ingram, both seemed to be really good kids.[/quote]The problem though is depth. Ingram and Bryan were unlikely to start, but they were both valuable pieces, especially Ingram. Having a guy that can come off the bench and put 15+ points on the board while shooting almost 45% from three is going to hurt any team.
We lost two of the three best 3 point shooters in CUSA in a single off season. Iâm afraid weâre going to be 2012 bad at shooting the three again next year.
[quote=âNiner National, post:24, topic:28842â][quote=âhootie, post:23, topic:28842â]Lose Bryan and Ingram, add Sullivan and Og.
Youâre going to have transfers these days, you just are. If we can do those 2 for 2 type swaps every year, good for us.
Good luck to Bryan and Ingram, both seemed to be really good kids.[/quote]The problem though is depth. Ingram and Bryan were unlikely to start, but they were both valuable pieces, especially Ingram. Having a guy that can come off the bench and put 15+ points on the board while shooting almost 45% from three is going to hurt any team.
We lost two of the three best 3 point shooters in CUSA in a single off season. Iâm afraid weâre going to be 2012 bad at shooting the three again next year.[/quote]
Shhhhh we are supposed to accept mediocrity and be good fans and just clap our hands and say everyone deals with it instead of expecting better. The defeatist attitude about this program kills me and if you dare ask or demand for more you get branded a malcontent, a bad fan or just plain told to be quiet.
Definitely disappointed to hear this. Bryan seemed like he could play solid minutes for us, grab rebounds, put in the occasional basket. He struggled for a lot of the end of last year, but I still liked his potential. Itâs not like we are particularly deep in the post, even with Sullivan coming in. Blakely will need to show a lot more this year to be considered part of the post depth. I hope that happens, but it seems as though we have 3 guys down low, again. Every good team needs depth to deal with those times that foul trouble, off nights, or just solid minutes off the bench (to allow others to rest) require someone else to contribute.
Seems like this is another data point supporting that Major is not doing a great job managing the team. Hope he can come back from his hiatus healthy and ready to pull guys together a little better for next season.
the problem with losing these ârole playersâ is that the players donât think they deserve to be role players. They think that they can get starter minutes somewhere else, which is why they leave. You really have to find a guy with his head on straight to understand their role
Very true. Sometimes they are correct (Josh Davis- NCSU to Tulane), other times they arenât (Ryan Harrow - NCSU to UK).
[quote=âNiner National, post:24, topic:28842â][quote=âhootie, post:23, topic:28842â]Lose Bryan and Ingram, add Sullivan and Og.
Youâre going to have transfers these days, you just are. If we can do those 2 for 2 type swaps every year, good for us.
Good luck to Bryan and Ingram, both seemed to be really good kids.[/quote]The problem though is depth. Ingram and Bryan were unlikely to start, but they were both valuable pieces, especially Ingram. Having a guy that can come off the bench and put 15+ points on the board while shooting almost 45% from three is going to hurt any team.
We lost two of the three best 3 point shooters in CUSA in a single off season. Iâm afraid weâre going to be 2012 bad at shooting the three again next year.[/quote]
Losing Bryan hurts our depth up front no doubt. Ingram just looked around and saw a crowded backcourt. Not happy about losing Bryan but it happens.
I think and hope that Benk returning mitigates Cherry as well in the 3 pt dept.
Nobody wants to admit that they are/will be a role player. These dudes were stars in High School and now your gonnas tell them they will only play 10 to 15 minutes a game?? Hard for most of them to accept that so they transfer to someplace they can(Hopefully) play. Plus it is really just a way for these guys to take a redshirt year without actually redshirting. I think to most of these players there is a stigma to redshirting when healthy, means your not good enough to play. But after they really get into it an see what itâs all about they realize the benefit. They will be 23 playing against 18 to 20yr olds and will have an advantage potentially.
I really liked Bryanâs game. Itâs a shame that he has to go. This is two years in a row that weâve lost two fairly solid players. I may be off, but at a glance it appears that the guys that are leaving got more minutes than the guys we are bringing in. This is not to say that we arenât bringing in better players, or transfers who are at the very least just as good as those we are losing, but I feel like it has to be more than just wanting more minutes. Perhaps I am a bit naive, but I just donât buy the argument that this many kids are leaving the program because they believe they deserve to be the star. I could see it in Clark, but not Nickerson, and not so sure about Bryan and Ingram. I believe that itâs also on the coaching staff to foster a sense of team and family that would encourage players to stay and fight for each other. We are constantly losing the guys who are first off the bench.
Iâm not crucifying Major and Co. for this, but you can count me in as skeptical. Still think we have enough talent to do well this year though, but weâll see.
Transfers only really bother me if they are the reason weâre losing. Kids these days are impatient and transfers are part of the college landscape now.
Have to find a way to win games regardless.
This!
Average number of transfers per year for D1 basketball is roughly 1.6. Iâm guessing players who are between #7-9 in overall minutes are the most likely suspects as they have the best chance of moving down to a lesser program and obtaining a starting role. A six man is typically going to be a starter the following year.
This![/quote]
Nobody wants to admit that they are/will be a role player. These dudes were stars in High School and now your gonnas tell them they will only play 10 to 15 minutes a game?? Hard for most of them to accept that so they transfer to someplace they can(Hopefully) play. Plus it is really just a way for these guys to take a redshirt year without actually redshirting. I think to most of these players there is a stigma to redshirting when healthy, means your not good enough to play. But after they really get into it an see what itâs all about they realize the benefit. They will be 23 playing against 18 to 20yr olds and will have an advantage potentially.[/quote]
Except at crapple hole. Those preppy-looking white boys at the end of their bench with baby-blue stars in their eyes have dreamed their entire lives of just sitting on that bench hoping to play in the last minute of their 30 point blowout in a tar hole uni. Not to mention being run ragged in practice. Believe me, they LIVE for it. :))
Nobody wants to admit that they are/will be a role player. These dudes were stars in High School and now your gonnas tell them they will only play 10 to 15 minutes a game?? Hard for most of them to accept that so they transfer to someplace they can(Hopefully) play. Plus it is really just a way for these guys to take a redshirt year without actually redshirting. I think to most of these players there is a stigma to redshirting when healthy, means your not good enough to play. But after they really get into it an see what itâs all about they realize the benefit. They will be 23 playing against 18 to 20yr olds and will have an advantage potentially.[/quote]
Except at crapple hole. Those preppy-looking white boys at the end of their bench with baby-blue stars in their eyes have dreamed their entire lives of just sitting on that bench hoping to play in the last minute of their 30 point blowout in a tar hole uni. Not to mention being run ragged in practice. Believe me, they LIVE for it. :))[/quote]
Canât believe Iâm doing this but here goes.
Those preppy white boys also get to tell the soriety chicks that they are on the squad and get instant leg. They also go to places they may never go again (Maui) and stay in first class hotels and travel first class. They get a very valuable education and probably a 65K beginning salary from day one after they graduate.
As much as I hate them, I canât blame them if that what they grew up wanting to do.
All that said, I still donât get why a kid like Jackson Simmons wants to sit there instead of play other places that are decent, like here for instance. The guys who really are just practice dummies are the ones I was refering to above.
Nobody wants to admit that they are/will be a role player. These dudes were stars in High School and now your gonnas tell them they will only play 10 to 15 minutes a game?? Hard for most of them to accept that so they transfer to someplace they can(Hopefully) play. Plus it is really just a way for these guys to take a redshirt year without actually redshirting. I think to most of these players there is a stigma to redshirting when healthy, means your not good enough to play. But after they really get into it an see what itâs all about they realize the benefit. They will be 23 playing against 18 to 20yr olds and will have an advantage potentially.[/quote]
Except at crapple hole. Those preppy-looking white boys at the end of their bench with baby-blue stars in their eyes have dreamed their entire lives of just sitting on that bench hoping to play in the last minute of their 30 point blowout in a tar hole uni. Not to mention being run ragged in practice. Believe me, they LIVE for it. :))[/quote]
Canât believe Iâm doing this but here goes.
Those preppy white boys also get to tell the soriety chicks that they are on the squad and get instant leg. They also go to places they may never go again (Maui) and stay in first class hotels and travel first class. They get a very valuable education and probably a 65K beginning salary from day one after they graduate.
As much as I hate them, I canât blame them if that what they grew up wanting to do.
All that said, I still donât get why a kid like Jackson Simmons wants to sit there instead of play other places that are decent, like here for instance. The guys who really are just practice dummies are the ones I was refering to above.[/quote]
i doubt that just because you go to unc, you automatically get paid 65k coming out of school. i watched jackson simmons many times, he would play about as much here as he does at unc, possibly a little more. he is a marcus bryan type talent.
Nobody wants to admit that they are/will be a role player. These dudes were stars in High School and now your gonnas tell them they will only play 10 to 15 minutes a game?? Hard for most of them to accept that so they transfer to someplace they can(Hopefully) play. Plus it is really just a way for these guys to take a redshirt year without actually redshirting. I think to most of these players there is a stigma to redshirting when healthy, means your not good enough to play. But after they really get into it an see what itâs all about they realize the benefit. They will be 23 playing against 18 to 20yr olds and will have an advantage potentially.[/quote]
Except at crapple hole. Those preppy-looking white boys at the end of their bench with baby-blue stars in their eyes have dreamed their entire lives of just sitting on that bench hoping to play in the last minute of their 30 point blowout in a tar hole uni. Not to mention being run ragged in practice. Believe me, they LIVE for it. :))[/quote]
Canât believe Iâm doing this but here goes.
Those preppy white boys also get to tell the soriety chicks that they are on the squad and get instant leg. They also go to places they may never go again (Maui) and stay in first class hotels and travel first class. They get a very valuable education and probably a 65K beginning salary from day one after they graduate.
As much as I hate them, I canât blame them if that what they grew up wanting to do.
All that said, I still donât get why a kid like Jackson Simmons wants to sit there instead of play other places that are decent, like here for instance. The guys who really are just practice dummies are the ones I was refering to above.[/quote]
i doubt that just because you go to unc, you automatically get paid 65k coming out of school. i watched jackson simmons many times, he would play about as much here as he does at unc, possibly a little more. he is a marcus bryan type talent.[/quote]For a normal student, no. Average starting salaries are actually higher coming out of Charlotte (although Chapel Hill is higher for average mid-career salaries). Athletes on UNCâs major athletics programs probably get a nice little boost though simply because they have connections normal students would not.
Nobody wants to admit that they are/will be a role player. These dudes were stars in High School and now your gonnas tell them they will only play 10 to 15 minutes a game?? Hard for most of them to accept that so they transfer to someplace they can(Hopefully) play. Plus it is really just a way for these guys to take a redshirt year without actually redshirting. I think to most of these players there is a stigma to redshirting when healthy, means your not good enough to play. But after they really get into it an see what itâs all about they realize the benefit. They will be 23 playing against 18 to 20yr olds and will have an advantage potentially.[/quote]
Except at crapple hole. Those preppy-looking white boys at the end of their bench with baby-blue stars in their eyes have dreamed their entire lives of just sitting on that bench hoping to play in the last minute of their 30 point blowout in a tar hole uni. Not to mention being run ragged in practice. Believe me, they LIVE for it. :))[/quote]
Canât believe Iâm doing this but here goes.
Those preppy white boys also get to tell the soriety chicks that they are on the squad and get instant leg. They also go to places they may never go again (Maui) and stay in first class hotels and travel first class. They get a very valuable education and probably a 65K beginning salary from day one after they graduate.
As much as I hate them, I canât blame them if that what they grew up wanting to do.
All that said, I still donât get why a kid like Jackson Simmons wants to sit there instead of play other places that are decent, like here for instance. The guys who really are just practice dummies are the ones I was refering to above.[/quote]
i doubt that just because you go to unc, you automatically get paid 65k coming out of school. i watched jackson simmons many times, he would play about as much here as he does at unc, possibly a little more. he is a marcus bryan type talent.[/quote]
A player on the bball squad, not a regular student. Trust me, they get hooked up.
And not trying to be disagreeable, but Simmons is a lot better than Bryan IMO.