Nobody wants to admit that they are/will be a role player. These dudes were stars in High School and now your gonnas tell them they will only play 10 to 15 minutes a game?? Hard for most of them to accept that so they transfer to someplace they can(Hopefully) play. Plus it is really just a way for these guys to take a redshirt year without actually redshirting. I think to most of these players there is a stigma to redshirting when healthy, means your not good enough to play. But after they really get into it an see what itâs all about they realize the benefit. They will be 23 playing against 18 to 20yr olds and will have an advantage potentially.[/quote]
Except at crapple hole. Those preppy-looking white boys at the end of their bench with baby-blue stars in their eyes have dreamed their entirelives of just sitting on that bench hoping to play in the last minute of their 30 point blowout in a tar hole uni. Not to mention being run ragged in practice. Believe me, they LIVE for it. :))[/quote]
Canât believe Iâm doing this but here goes.
Those preppy white boys also get to tell the soriety chicks that they are on the squad and get instant leg. They also go to places they may never go again (Maui) and stay in first class hotels and travel first class. They get a very valuable education and probably a 65K beginning salary from day one after they graduate.
As much as I hate them, I canât blame them if that what they grew up wanting to do.
All that said, I still donât get why a kid like Jackson Simmons wants to sit there instead of play other places that are decent, like here for instance. The guys who really are just practice dummies are the ones I was refering to above.[/quote]
i doubt that just because you go to unc, you automatically get paid 65k coming out of school. i watched jackson simmons many times, he would play about as much here as he does at unc, possibly a little more. he is a marcus bryan type talent.[/quote]
A player on the bball squad, not a regular student. Trust me, they get hooked up.
And not trying to be disagreeable, but Simmons is a lot better than Bryan IMO.[/quote]
even though he is 1-2 years older than bryan, he may be only slightly better, if he is better at all.
[quote=âNinerWupAss, post:25, topic:28842â][quote=âNiner National, post:24, topic:28842â][quote=âhootie, post:23, topic:28842â]Lose Bryan and Ingram, add Sullivan and Og.
Youâre going to have transfers these days, you just are. If we can do those 2 for 2 type swaps every year, good for us.
Good luck to Bryan and Ingram, both seemed to be really good kids.[/quote]The problem though is depth. Ingram and Bryan were unlikely to start, but they were both valuable pieces, especially Ingram. Having a guy that can come off the bench and put 15+ points on the board while shooting almost 45% from three is going to hurt any team.
We lost two of the three best 3 point shooters in CUSA in a single off season. Iâm afraid weâre going to be 2012 bad at shooting the three again next year.[/quote]
Shhhhh we are supposed to accept mediocrity and be good fans and just clap our hands and say everyone deals with it instead of expecting better. The defeatist attitude about this program kills me and if you dare ask or demand for more you get branded a malcontent, a bad fan or just plain told to be quiet.[/quote]
[quote=âbballtazzmania, post:42, topic:28842â][quote=âNinerWupAss, post:25, topic:28842â][quote=âNiner National, post:24, topic:28842â][quote=âhootie, post:23, topic:28842â]Lose Bryan and Ingram, add Sullivan and Og.
Youâre going to have transfers these days, you just are. If we can do those 2 for 2 type swaps every year, good for us.
Good luck to Bryan and Ingram, both seemed to be really good kids.[/quote]The problem though is depth. Ingram and Bryan were unlikely to start, but they were both valuable pieces, especially Ingram. Having a guy that can come off the bench and put 15+ points on the board while shooting almost 45% from three is going to hurt any team.
We lost two of the three best 3 point shooters in CUSA in a single off season. Iâm afraid weâre going to be 2012 bad at shooting the three again next year.[/quote]
Shhhhh we are supposed to accept mediocrity and be good fans and just clap our hands and say everyone deals with it instead of expecting better. The defeatist attitude about this program kills me and if you dare ask or demand for more you get branded a malcontent, a bad fan or just plain told to be quiet.[/quote]
YUP ![/quote]
Sokool, I am not trolling you here, I just wondered if you knew where Denzel was going? I cannot find any information on it and I really do wish him the best.
Nobody wants to admit that they are/will be a role player. These dudes were stars in High School and now your gonnas tell them they will only play 10 to 15 minutes a game?? Hard for most of them to accept that so they transfer to someplace they can(Hopefully) play. Plus it is really just a way for these guys to take a redshirt year without actually redshirting. I think to most of these players there is a stigma to redshirting when healthy, means your not good enough to play. But after they really get into it an see what itâs all about they realize the benefit. They will be 23 playing against 18 to 20yr olds and will have an advantage potentially.[/quote]
Except at crapple hole. Those preppy-looking white boys at the end of their bench with baby-blue stars in their eyes have dreamed their entirelives of just sitting on that bench hoping to play in the last minute of their 30 point blowout in a tar hole uni. Not to mention being run ragged in practice. Believe me, they LIVE for it. :))[/quote]
Canât believe Iâm doing this but here goes.
Those preppy white boys also get to tell the soriety chicks that they are on the squad and get instant leg. They also go to places they may never go again (Maui) and stay in first class hotels and travel first class. They get a very valuable education and probably a 65K beginning salary from day one after they graduate.
As much as I hate them, I canât blame them if that what they grew up wanting to do.
All that said, I still donât get why a kid like Jackson Simmons wants to sit there instead of play other places that are decent, like here for instance. The guys who really are just practice dummies are the ones I was refering to above.[/quote]
i doubt that just because you go to unc, you automatically get paid 65k coming out of school. i watched jackson simmons many times, he would play about as much here as he does at unc, possibly a little more. he is a marcus bryan type talent.[/quote]
A player on the bball squad, not a regular student. Trust me, they get hooked up.
And not trying to be disagreeable, but Simmons is a lot better than Bryan IMO.[/quote]
âI Could Give a Sh!t About North Carolina right nowâ
Anything less than throwing Molotov Cocktails into Majorâs office for this transfer is accepting mediocrity and a defeatist attitude. Do you guys even care about the program anymore?
He doesnât know where he is going yet. At least, last I heard they hadnât decided. He had to be granted his official release before he could talk to other schools.
Last year this time when Evic and Clark left⌠it was no big deal, they were replaceable blah blah blah⌠Apparently we didnât replace them.
Depth is developed, we have failed miserably to recruit and maintain the depth successful teams have. While Bryanâs numbers werenât eye popping, he was a true frosh playing some key minutes for us. We are still thin upfront and this continued revolving door is not going to lead to a good ending.
[quote=âs9er, post:51, topic:28842â]hereâs my issueâŚ
Last year this time when Evic and Clark left⌠it was no big deal, they were replaceable blah blah blah⌠Apparently we didnât replace them.
Depth is developed, we have failed miserably to recruit and maintain the depth successful teams have. While Bryanâs numbers werenât eye popping, he was a true frosh playing some key minutes for us. We are still thin upfront and this continued revolving door is not going to lead to a good ending.[/quote]
EVN and Clark were bigger issues to most on here, IIRC. EVN and Clark both played pretty large roles, when they were here, and we knew they would be hard to replace. After they departed, my expectations for the season definitely went down. My expectations for this year have not gone down because Bryan decided to look elsewhere.
We are definitely thin, and need some things to go our way, injury-wise. Bryan wouldâve been most welcome to spell up front, but weâll just have to make do.
over 500 D1 transfers this year and many from the top BCS schoolsâŚitâs a way of life these days, not to mention a generational issue. Millennials will change jobs 27 times in their career! Still a ton of talent on the 2014-15 squad and anything less than a very successful season is unacceptable IMO.
I will be 26 this year and I start my 3rd job post masters degree in a month. I would move too if I was only going to get 10 minutes a game. Bryan could be a good player at a smaller school.
[quote=âEJNiner, post:54, topic:28842â]over 500 D1 transfers this year and many from the top BCS schoolsâŚitâs a way of life these days, not to mention a generational issue. Millennials will change jobs 27 times in their career! Still a ton of talent on the 2014-15 squad and anything less than a very successful season is unacceptable IMO.[/quote]27 jobs sounds miserable. I also have no idea how they project that. I understand moving around a lot when youâre young, but you eventually find a job where you fit well and get paid well. You get tired of starting over.