Another Transfer

As of right now, I believe we have 2 to give (Denzel and Bryan).

Our seniors as of now that we need to replace after next year are T Will and Henry.

Where did you get a ridiculous number like that from? My sources have assured me this only happens 89.9% of the time. Let’s get your facts straight next time, ok?

Sounds like he didn’t want to be behind other 3 other posts. Of course, this was the situation when he signed. Truly don’t think kids understand they aren’t going to be the man when they come in. Far too many with unrealistic expectations.

This is 106% bullshit

he probably thought one of them would transfer.

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

According to some on here they lie to them. Although I’m sure most staffs say that they have a belief in the student athlete that they can come in and get/earn playing time because they are good enough. The problem is, there is also another kid coming in doing the same. Sometimes people hear what they want to, or they are naive, and then make the comments that they were lied to by the staff. None of that makes sense. No coach is stupid enough (I hope not) to promise a kid a starting job, because if there’s another kid that’s better, it’s the coach’s job on the line if he doesn’t play him because of a remark one time while on a home visit.

he probably thought one of them would transfer.[/quote]
Or get booted off the team.

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

Here’s how it was sold to Bryan:

Marcus if you come to Charlotte we feel like you could really help us and we are especially thin up front and we feel you could play right away. The was all absolutely true and thats how it worked out. At the same time Marcus has been practicing again Sully for a year now and obviously he has come to the conclusion that Sully is better than he is and will take up a majority of his playing time for the next 2 years. So Marcus makes what he feels is the best decision for him and decides to try to find a place he will be able to play more.

The exact same goes for Denzel.

What is so hard for some of you to understand about this? How is this a bad reflection on the coaches?

So to recap we have 2 contributors transfer and yet we are still VERY deep:

Guards: Henry, Brax, Lester, Key, Dorin and Benny

Front Court: T Will, Willie, Sully, Big Mike and Blakely

Marcus and Denzel made the best decisions for them and those decisons really have no effect on our program. We will not be able to use the excuse: “If only we had Denzel and Marcus.”

^^ Agree 100%. I said it earlier…he saw he was going to be fighting for the 4th big man spot, probably 10 minutes a game if that. Wanted to be a contributor and is leaving. I don’t get the outrage either. It has to be a tough pill to swallow to go from being first buy guy off the bench to potentially being the 3rd big guy off the bench. If you are 5th in rotation…you are not going to play often.

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

Here’s how it was sold to Bryan:

Marcus if you come to Charlotte we feel like you could really help us and we are especially thin up front and we feel you could play right away. The was all absolutely true and thats how it worked out. [/quote]

Were you sitting in the room with them when they said this to Marcus and Denzel? Not saying that isn’t how it went down but obviously we all assume that is what was the coaches say. I would love to know what the staff told EVic and Darion and Luka - and there is no way to know what is really being said with out being in the room with them. My curiosity really is are they overselling what they can do and setting up unrealistic expectations for the players who then get pissed off or are they simply saying I am not going to promise you anything, come in work your butt off and best guy plays.

As for them not being an excuse - we heard it last year, well we just are too thin on the front line. You know why? Because guys transferred. So this season, when again we are thin in the post, people will say that again. I just think that the staff needs to do a better job managing expectations, team chemistry and succeed in spite of what transfers we do have. I know having high expectations for our program these days can be a punishable offense.

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

Here’s how it was sold to Bryan:

Marcus if you come to Charlotte we feel like you could really help us and we are especially thin up front and we feel you could play right away. The was all absolutely true and thats how it worked out. [/quote]

Were you sitting in the room with them when they said this to Marcus and Denzel? Not saying that isn’t how it went down but obviously we all assume that is what was the coaches say. I would love to know what the staff told EVic and Darion and Luka - and there is no way to know what is really being said with out being in the room with them. My curiosity really is are they overselling what they can do and setting up unrealistic expectations for the players who then get pissed off or are they simply saying I am not going to promise you anything, come in work your butt off and best guy plays.

As for them not being an excuse - we heard it last year, well we just are too thin on the front line. You know why? Because guys transferred. So this season, when again we are thin in the post, people will say that again. I just think that the staff needs to do a better job managing expectations, team chemistry and succeed in spite of what transfers we do have. I know having high expectations for our program these days can be a punishable offense.[/quote]

Exactly!

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

Here’s how it was sold to Bryan:

Marcus if you come to Charlotte we feel like you could really help us and we are especially thin up front and we feel you could play right away. The was all absolutely true and thats how it worked out. [/quote]

Were you sitting in the room with them when they said this to Marcus and Denzel? Not saying that isn’t how it went down but obviously we all assume that is what was the coaches say. I would love to know what the staff told EVic and Darion and Luka - and there is no way to know what is really being said with out being in the room with them. My curiosity really is are they overselling what they can do and setting up unrealistic expectations for the players who then get pissed off or are they simply saying I am not going to promise you anything, come in work your butt off and best guy plays.

As for them not being an excuse - we heard it last year, well we just are too thin on the front line. You know why? Because guys transferred. So this season, when again we are thin in the post, people will say that again. I just think that the staff needs to do a better job managing expectations, team chemistry and succeed in spite of what transfers we do have. I know having high expectations for our program these days can be a punishable offense.[/quote]

How is Willie, Thorne, Blakely, and Sullivan thin in the post?

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

Here’s how it was sold to Bryan:

Marcus if you come to Charlotte we feel like you could really help us and we are especially thin up front and we feel you could play right away. The was all absolutely true and thats how it worked out. [/quote]

Were you sitting in the room with them when they said this to Marcus and Denzel? Not saying that isn’t how it went down but obviously we all assume that is what was the coaches say. I would love to know what the staff told EVic and Darion and Luka - and there is no way to know what is really being said with out being in the room with them. My curiosity really is are they overselling what they can do and setting up unrealistic expectations for the players who then get pissed off or are they simply saying I am not going to promise you anything, come in work your butt off and best guy plays.

As for them not being an excuse - we heard it last year, well we just are too thin on the front line. You know why? Because guys transferred. So this season, when again we are thin in the post, people will say that again. I just think that the staff needs to do a better job managing expectations, team chemistry and succeed in spite of what transfers we do have. I know having high expectations for our program these days can be a punishable offense.[/quote]

How is Willie, Thorne, Blakely, and Sullivan thin in the post?[/quote]

Just read this thread - people are already saying it.

Just saw where Ingram has strong interest in UNCW and I believe I remember someone on here saying Bryan did as well, I wonder if they will both end up there together

Denzel will be a All CAA team selection. Maybe not first team, but he’ll do very well there if he goes there.

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

Here’s how it was sold to Bryan:

Marcus if you come to Charlotte we feel like you could really help us and we are especially thin up front and we feel you could play right away. The was all absolutely true and thats how it worked out. [/quote]

Were you sitting in the room with them when they said this to Marcus and Denzel? Not saying that isn’t how it went down but obviously we all assume that is what was the coaches say. I would love to know what the staff told EVic and Darion and Luka - and there is no way to know what is really being said with out being in the room with them. My curiosity really is are they overselling what they can do and setting up unrealistic expectations for the players who then get pissed off or are they simply saying I am not going to promise you anything, come in work your butt off and best guy plays.

As for them not being an excuse - we heard it last year, well we just are too thin on the front line. You know why? Because guys transferred. So this season, when again we are thin in the post, people will say that again. I just think that the staff needs to do a better job managing expectations, team chemistry and succeed in spite of what transfers we do have. I know having high expectations for our program these days can be a punishable offense.[/quote]
I don’t have a clue what recruiting actually looks like because I could never move to my left and shoot. Or jump. Or lots of other things. But, these coaches have all been doing this for a long time and have to know that outright lies will only come back to bite them. Sure they paint a rosy picture of what could be, but the coach really does not know from watching the kid play HS ball how he will fare in college. At least not with most of the kids we recruit. And when we start recruiting a kid who joined our team in the last couple of years we really were bad, and they might have projected as a starter at that point, but the team has changed. Ultimately it is up to the player to earn their spot, and if they decide their spot is on the end of the bench and are not happy with that I don’t blame them for transferring. I think it is stupid to trade a UNC Charlotte education for a JC Smith education just so you can play a game, but everyone has their own priorities.

I had one of our previous coaches tell me that the weirdest part of their job was wooing 16 year olds with texts and phone calls. They realized and laughed at how creepy it sounds, but it is almost like you are trying to get a date with them. Of course the coaches know what is really important, and the student-athletes do not have a clue, and care about all of the wrong things, so coaches end up selling what the kids want. Their parents should be guiding the kids to value the right things, but that doesn’t always, or maybe even often happen.

It seemed like marki could never make up his mind. Didn’t he commit and decommit from app multiple times? He just doesn’t know what he wants, never has

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

Here’s how it was sold to Bryan:

Marcus if you come to Charlotte we feel like you could really help us and we are especially thin up front and we feel you could play right away. The was all absolutely true and thats how it worked out. [/quote]

Were you sitting in the room with them when they said this to Marcus and Denzel? Not saying that isn’t how it went down but obviously we all assume that is what was the coaches say. I would love to know what the staff told EVic and Darion and Luka - and there is no way to know what is really being said with out being in the room with them. My curiosity really is are they overselling what they can do and setting up unrealistic expectations for the players who then get pissed off or are they simply saying I am not going to promise you anything, come in work your butt off and best guy plays.

As for them not being an excuse - we heard it last year, well we just are too thin on the front line. You know why? Because guys transferred. So this season, when again we are thin in the post, people will say that again. I just think that the staff needs to do a better job managing expectations, team chemistry and succeed in spite of what transfers we do have. I know having high expectations for our program these days can be a punishable offense.[/quote]

How is Willie, Thorne, Blakely, and Sullivan thin in the post?[/quote]

4 kids for 120 minutes of PT is thin as hell… Consider Blakley has virtually no experience only adds to the depth issue. You can even call TWill a big and we’d still be thin.

Does make me curious how the staff sells the situation to these kids.[/quote]

Willie = 30
Sully = 30
Mike = 30
T Will = 30
Total = 120

So will foul trouble there might be 10 mins for Marcus. Thus he transfers. This endith the lesson.

Here’s how it was sold to Bryan:

Marcus if you come to Charlotte we feel like you could really help us and we are especially thin up front and we feel you could play right away. The was all absolutely true and thats how it worked out. [/quote]

Were you sitting in the room with them when they said this to Marcus and Denzel? Not saying that isn’t how it went down but obviously we all assume that is what was the coaches say. I would love to know what the staff told EVic and Darion and Luka - and there is no way to know what is really being said with out being in the room with them. My curiosity really is are they overselling what they can do and setting up unrealistic expectations for the players who then get pissed off or are they simply saying I am not going to promise you anything, come in work your butt off and best guy plays.

As for them not being an excuse - we heard it last year, well we just are too thin on the front line. You know why? Because guys transferred. So this season, when again we are thin in the post, people will say that again. I just think that the staff needs to do a better job managing expectations, team chemistry and succeed in spite of what transfers we do have. I know having high expectations for our program these days can be a punishable offense.[/quote]

How is Willie, Thorne, Blakely, and Sullivan thin in the post?[/quote]

4 kids for 120 minutes of PT is thin as hell… Consider Blakley has virtually no experience only adds to the depth issue. You can even call TWill a big and we’d still be thin.[/quote]