Arkansas post game

We have so many fans, we should definitely be telling any of the few we have they aren’t real fans.

Gotta get our numbers in single digits!

Whether they were tournament worthy or not at least we beat two of them. You might want to diminish that but as a niner fan I was very proud of our guys.

If you can win 2 out of 3 BCS games with such a “undersized and under talented backcourt like Briscoe and Green” … We definitely should be able to do at least that good with a 6’3 pg and group of tall 3 star " top 10 mid major recruiting class players" and two TALL BCS caliber transfers. :o

Major and many on this board absurdly think Briscoe and Green are not good enough to spell Henry at PG for 5 to 10 minutes. Making ridiculous statements like we need Luka.

Well last time I checked Luka didn’t want to play for Major right now.

But Briscoe n Green were good enough to go 30+ min against Tennessee and Georgia tech with Shumpert and Hopson who are as good as any guards we have played against all year and beat them. ::slight_smile:

Not to mention Holloway and Lyons.

If what we have on the court is better than what we had we would not be 0-2 vs BCS its just that simple.

Win Games is the only way to convince rationale fans and naysayers that you can play.

Next year is for wishers not winners.

We have won more games so far this season than last season. It is not a question if they were good enough to play…they were ALL we had. Morningwood and Lewis played last year. We had no one else.

Morningwood…bahhhahaha :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes he went to a hair stylist to make his hair look like an afro…

this!

A 10-20 season is the bar the program should be held to. I agree.

WE? :))

Don’t try and fool anyone here. You aren’t a Niner fan, you’re a Briscoe fan which is fine. You joined this board as soon as he knew he was transferring here and more than likely leave once his time is done.[/quote]

Im sure you’ll question any niner fan that does not agree with what or who is popular. ::slight_smile: Thats real shallow dude.

What makes you a great Niner fan? The amount of friends you have i’m sure.

Surly i’ll be banned soon that seems to be the approach to opposition here. Until then i’ll keep speaking my opinion whether you like it or not.

NNN wants clones not TRUE NINER FANS. :))[/quote]

Really dude, I try and ignore your drivel now, but this is just silly. Don’t act like our problem with you is that you have an opposing viewpoint. That’s not it at all. Don’t act like you are some victim. And don’t act like you care about the Niners more than Briscoe.

You want to ride Briscoe’s nuts. Fine. But at least own up to it.

A 10-20 season is the bar the program should be held to. I agree.[/quote]

Sokool said, "If what we have on the court is better than what we had we would not be 0-2 vs BCS its just that simple.

Win Games is the only way to convince rationale fans and naysayers that you can play."

…I simply pointed out that so far in the year we have won more than the previous year. No one knows how good or bad the team will end up. He said winning convinces and we have won more so far. It is not a hard concept to grasp.

–As I go back a look this is how we have started since last tournament bid in first 11 games:

05-06: 6-5
06-07: 5-6
07-08: 7-4
08-09: 5-6
09-10: 9-2
10-11: 5-6
11-12: 7-4

So if you would like to compare it with other years…go ahead. It is tied for the second highest in the past six years.

Mike Anderson is a good coach.

[quote=“NLP, post:50, topic:26114”]Mike Anderson is a good coach.[/quote]I’d say he’s top 20 coach in the country. You see his roster, very SIZE KING-esque :stuck_out_tongue:

Major inherited some soft players, Green, Braz, Briscoe, even Barnett is not too tough.

They have their positive attributes, but just are not too tough. Briscoe probably has the toughest mentality, just lacks the body.

Lutz was a lazy pragmatist with his recruiting. It’s hard to see a philosophy. Pretty much grab what you can and then hope you’re smart enough to move the pieces around properly. This type of strategy is hard to pull off long-term unless you bring in top talent.

I like what Major is doing with recruiting and feel like he deserves a few years to see if he can make his program work. Losing games we are not expected to win should not change this.

[quote=“LiberalAtheistNiner, post:52, topic:26114”]Major inherited some soft players, Green, Braz, Briscoe, even Barnett is not too tough.

They have their positive attributes, but just are not too tough. Briscoe probably has the toughest mentality, just lacks the body.

Lutz was a lazy pragmatist with his recruiting. It’s hard to see a philosophy. Pretty much grab what you can and then hope you’re smart enough to move the pieces around properly. This type of strategy is hard to pull off long-term unless you bring in top talent.

I like what Major is doing with recruiting and feel like he deserves a few years to see if he can make his program work. Losing games we are not expected to win should not change this.[/quote]

i totally agree.

me too.

[quote=“LiberalAtheistNiner, post:52, topic:26114”]Major inherited some soft players, Green, Braz, Briscoe, even Barnett is not too tough.

They have their positive attributes, but just are not too tough. Briscoe probably has the toughest mentality, just lacks the body.

Lutz was a lazy pragmatist with his recruiting. It’s hard to see a philosophy. Pretty much grab what you can and then hope you’re smart enough to move the pieces around properly. This type of strategy is hard to pull off long-term unless you bring in top talent.

I like what Major is doing with recruiting and feel like he deserves a few years to see if he can make his program work. Losing games we are not expected to win should not change this.[/quote]

Can’t believe I agree with someone named LiberalAtheistNiner

Don’t worry.

Last year I was ChristianConservativeNiner.

Losing sucks. Hope we can right the ship soon. :frowning:

It does suck, but it happens.

It does suck, but it happens.[/quote]

Thats true.

One of the things we knew would happen with Major is that his style of play was not going to be the high risk high reward play that we had seen. Previous charlotte teams could beat Arkansas using a flawed system that enabled us to lose to a really crappy team after beating a good team. Major’s focus on solid defense and a traditional inside first offense should enable us to beat lesser teams consistently. The trade off though is that IMO our wins against teams that have more talent than us will be harder to come by. With no smoke and mirrors we just don’t have the talent level and experience to counter better teams right now. At least that is how I am viewing things.

[quote=“NinerWupAss, post:59, topic:26114”]One of the things we knew would happen with Major is that his style of play was not going to be the high risk high reward play that we had seen. Previous charlotte teams could beat Arkansas using a flawed system that enabled us to lose to a really crappy team after beating a good team. Major’s focus on solid defense and a traditional inside first offense should enable us to beat lesser teams consistently. The trade off though is that IMO our wins against teams that have more talent than us will be harder to come by. With no smoke and mirrors we just don’t have the talent level and experience to counter better teams right now. At least that is how I am viewing things.[/quote] This is a good point. This was always how I thought about Lutz’ strategies for almost everything, high risk with potential for high reward. Not sure I agree with the poster above, I think he did have a recruiting strategy, it just involved going after tough-to-get recruits and often left him with taking the best available players when this failed (it left open the possibility we could get a loaded team and make a run at a final four, but never really happened). Same with his offensive and defensive strategies, lots of 3-pt shooting even when we had dominant inside players, lots of gimmicky switching defenses multiple times a game. When we had better shooters and athletes, these could be successful until we came up against fundamentally sound teams that encouraged us to shoot bad shots and exploited the weaknesses in our D.

The other issue though is that a lot of young guys are getting big minutes. I said before the season we’re not exactly a young team, but I didn’t anticipate Major playing the young guys so much right away (especially Henry at the position where you need the most experience). Usually upperclassmen play the majority of minutes, the younger guys play a few minutes here or there to get seasoning in the faster, tougher college game. Instead, we have young guys playing a lot, due to our lack of upperclassmen center and point guard (Sherrill and Briscoe come off the bench). These last two games have probably been the first two where the other team was more athletic than our guys, and that takes getting used to (though I think the team is more competitive with Miami if they don’t hit an unusual number of backbreaking, tough shots).

I think we’ll see some upsets by Major’s teams too (remember last year), once they start to get used to handling more athletic defenders/rebounders and if some of the off-the-court issues settle down (Braswell / Voncina). It’s pretty obvious that Braswell is off. Given his importance to the team, it doesn’t necessarily mean the rest of the season will look like this. But if he isn’t able to get it going again…another long season.