Briscoe doesn't get enough playing time

Whether they were tournament worthy or not at least we beat two of them. You might want to diminish that but as a niner fan I was very proud of our guys.

If you can win 2 out of 3 BCS games with such a undersized and under talented backcourt like Briscoe and Green … We definitely should be able to do at least that good with a 6’3 pg and group of tall 3 star " top 10 mid major recruiting class players" and two TALL BCS caliber transfers. :o

Major and many on this board dont even think Briscoe and Green are good enough to spell Henry at PG for 5 to 10 minutes.

But they were good enough to go 30+ min against Tennessee and Georgia tech with Shumpert and Hopson who are as good as any guards we have played against all year and beat them. ::slight_smile:

Not to mention Holloway and Lyons.

If what we have on the court is better than what we had we would not be 0-2 vs BCS its just that simple.

Win Games is the only way to convince rationale fans and naysayers that you can play.

Next year is for wishers not winners.[/quote]
TWO FOUR SIX EIGHT
WHO DO WE APPRECIATE
DEUCE DEUCE DEUCE!!!

Dude, you need a cheerleaders skirt and pom poms.

Jesus you are like a breathing fallacy.

Whether they were tournament worthy or not at least we beat two of them.

Think about that for a second. Like, really sit down, eat a snickers or something and think about that statement.

After you let it stew for a minute I’m sure you will see how stupid it sounds and come back quickly to say “wow, sorry NNN for the past few weeks of constant inane drum beating. I’m gonna take a break from posting for a little bit, work on my recovery from this obviously undiagnosed traumatic brain injury, and let my nephew play ball without me acting like a crazy pageant mom”.

But Briscoe n Green were good enough to go 30+ min against Tennessee and Georgia tech with Shumpert and Hopson who are as good as any guards we have played against all year and beat them.

If that is true, then is the fact they also went 8-19 against non bcs guards mean that they werent good enough to start those games? See how this fallacy stuff works? Pretty stupid right?

WE? :))

Don’t try and fool anyone here. You aren’t a Niner fan, you’re a Briscoe fan which is fine. You joined this board as soon as he knew he was transferring here and more than likely leave once his time is done.[/quote]

Im sure you’ll question any niner fan that does not agree with what or who is popular. ::slight_smile: Thats real shallow dude.

What makes you a great Niner fan? The amount of friends you have i’m sure.

Surly i’ll be banned soon that seems to be the approach to opposition here. Until then i’ll keep speaking my opinion whether you like it or not.

NNN wants clones not TRUE NINER FANS. :))[/quote]

Really dude, I try and ignore your drivel now, but this is just silly. Don’t act like our problem with you is that you have an opposing viewpoint. That’s not it at all. Don’t act like you are some victim. And don’t act like you care about the Niners more than Briscoe.

You want to ride Briscoe’s nuts. Fine. But at least own up to it.[/quote]

I usually try to respond to the fair weather critics … but when it’s clear that you have the I.Q. of Briscoe’s nuts.

Its probably best that you continue to ignore me and i’ll continue to ignore you. 8)

[quote=“sokool, post:3, topic:26120”][quote=“49or bust, post:48, topic:26114”]Really dude, I try and ignore your drivel now, but this is just silly. Don’t act like our problem with you is that you have an opposing viewpoint. That’s not it at all. Don’t act like you are some victim. And don’t act like you care about the Niners more than Briscoe.

You want to ride Briscoe’s nuts. Fine. But at least own up to it.[/quote]

I usually try to respond to the fair weather critics … but when it’s clear that you have the I.Q. of Briscoe’s nuts.

Its probably best that you continue to ignore me and i’ll continue to ignore you. 8)[/quote]

Great. Some nonsense post that totally ignores the point. Troll harder please.

[quote=“49or bust, post:4, topic:26120”][quote=“sokool, post:3, topic:26120”][quote=“49or bust, post:48, topic:26114”]Really dude, I try and ignore your drivel now, but this is just silly. Don’t act like our problem with you is that you have an opposing viewpoint. That’s not it at all. Don’t act like you are some victim. And don’t act like you care about the Niners more than Briscoe.

You want to ride Briscoe’s nuts. Fine. But at least own up to it.[/quote]

I usually try to respond to the fair weather critics … but when it’s clear that you have the I.Q. of Briscoe’s nuts.

Its probably best that you continue to ignore me and i’ll continue to ignore you. 8)[/quote]

Great. Some nonsense post that totally ignores the point. Troll harder please.[/quote]

This thread is getting too overtly sexual and dirty talking about privates.

Need to cleanse myself in the pole vault thread…

Phil Pressey, Matt Pressey, Michael Dixon, all small guards Anderson recruited and played at Missouri. :stuck_out_tongue:

Currently the 3 little guys 25+ min per game are leading the way for Mizzou and they are undefeated :stuck_out_tongue:

Phil Pressey, Matt Pressey, Michael Dixon, all small guards Anderson recruited and played at Missouri. :stuck_out_tongue:

Currently the 3 little guys 25+ min per game are leading the way for Mizzou and they are undefeated :p[/quote]

Wish we had one of those guys…

Phil Pressey, Matt Pressey, Michael Dixon, all small guards Anderson recruited and played at Missouri. :stuck_out_tongue:

Currently the 3 little guys 25+ min per game are leading the way for Mizzou and they are undefeated :p[/quote]

Phil Pressey was top 50 HS player.

Matt Pressey is 6’2".

Their dad is a former NBA player.

Michael Dixon is 6’1".

What were you arguing again?

Phil Pressey, Matt Pressey, Michael Dixon, all small guards Anderson recruited and played at Missouri. :stuck_out_tongue:

Currently the 3 little guys 25+ min per game are leading the way for Mizzou and they are undefeated :p[/quote]

Phil Pressey was top 50 HS player.

Matt Pressey is 6’3".

Their dad is a former NBA player.

Michael Dixon is 6’1".

What were you arguing again?[/quote]I award victory to 2002 in this case.

That’ll leave a mark.

Who is Quich Thang Duc, NA?

Actually, it should be spelled Thich Quang Duc.

[quote=“NinerWupAss”]Thats true.

One of the things we knew would happen with Major is that his style of play was not going to be the high risk high reward play that we had seen. Previous charlotte teams could beat Arkansas using a flawed system that enabled us to lose to a really crappy team after beating a good team. Major’s focus on solid defense and a traditional inside first offense should enable us to beat lesser teams consistently. The trade off though is that IMO our wins against teams that have more talent than us will be harder to come by. With no smoke and mirrors we just don’t have the talent level and experience to counter better teams right now. At least that is how I am viewing things.[/quote]

That’s what Ive been saying for a couple of years now. We’re going no gimmick. We’re trading the marquee wins for the ability to be more consistent and win the games we’re supposed to. It could be argued that those marquee wins helped build buzz and a reputation for the program that exceeded the backlash of the “monmouths”. But where this approach will pay off is in a tournament format. Lutz’s approach, unless he could just load the roster up to overcome it, didn’t allow you to string together wins like you need to do to advance, hence some of the early exits from the NCAAs and conference tournaments. Probably the best example of when we didn’t do that was that 99-00 team when Kelvin Price and Galen were seniors. That team couldn’t shoot that well but just battled through a lot of cold shooting nights with defense and offensive tenacity and won anyway. That’s what we’re shooting for with Major. Not coincidentally, that team won 4 games in 4 days in the CUSA tournament to earn an NCAA bid. If you’re good enough to make the field with that type of team, you have the advantage of knowing that you’re going to bring that level of consistency with you, so advancing is a realistic proprosition.

There’s this thing called Google. Even you have heard of it. It’s how you lookup pron sites and strip club addresses online. :smiley:

Phil Pressey, Matt Pressey, Michael Dixon, all small guards Anderson recruited and played at Missouri. :stuck_out_tongue:

Currently the 3 little guys 25+ min per game are leading the way for Mizzou and they are undefeated :p[/quote]

Wish we had one of those guys…[/quote]

I wish we had all 3 of them, starting for us at the 1,2,and 3.

But i’m sure Major Size King wouldn’t have a clue what to do with 3 good little guards. He is a BIG man’s coach right?

Hell Major wouldn’t even recruit them. Really Tall avg guards seem to be his sure fire recipe for success. Especially in the A-10 where all the good PG’S/guards are really TALL. :))

Mike Anderson (Missouri) and Frank Haith knows what to do with lil guards they could care less about their size and they play them 25+ against anybody and they win :o

Ok.

[quote=“sokool, post:14, topic:26120”]I wish we had all 3 of them, starting for us at the 1,2,and 3.

But i’m sure Major Size King wouldn’t have a clue what to do with 3 good little guards. He is a BIG man’s coach right?

Hell Major wouldn’t even recruit them. Really Tall avg guards seem to be his sure fire recipe for success. Especially in the A-10 where all the good PG’S/guards are really TALL. :))

Mike Anderson (Missouri) and Frank Haith knows what to do with lil guards they could care less about their size and they play them 25+ against anybody and they win :o[/quote]

[quote=“sokool, post:14, topic:26120”]But i’m sure Major Size King wouldn’t have a clue what to do with 3 good little guards. He is a BIG man’s coach right?

Hell Major wouldn’t even recruit them. Really Tall avg guards seem to be his sure fire recipe for success. Especially in the A-10 where all the good PG’S/guards are really TALL. :))[/quote] Those guys are 5’10, 6’1, 6’2 (see Charlotte2002’s post). Your latest big criticism of Major is playing Green (6’0") too much over Briscoe (5’10"). So Major plays ~35-38 minutes at the shooting guard spot the same size as those 3 guards. In other words, what you’re saying makes no sense whatsoever. It made sense back when you thought Henry shouldn’t be starting, but not anymore. So what’s your point now?

Time to change the schtick?

[quote=“9erken, post:17, topic:26120”][quote=“sokool, post:14, topic:26120”]But i’m sure Major Size King wouldn’t have a clue what to do with 3 good little guards. He is a BIG man’s coach right?

Hell Major wouldn’t even recruit them. Really Tall avg guards seem to be his sure fire recipe for success. Especially in the A-10 where all the good PG’S/guards are really TALL. :))[/quote] Those guys are 5’10, 6’1, 6’2 (see Charlotte2002’s post). Your latest big criticism of Major is playing Green (6’0") too much over Briscoe (5’10"). So Major plays ~35-38 minutes at the shooting guard spot the same size as those 3 guards. In other words, what you’re saying makes no sense whatsoever. It made sense back when you thought Henry shouldn’t be starting, but not anymore. So what’s your point now?

Time to change the schtick?[/quote]

All three of Missouri’s guards are 6’0 and under Kimme English is a former player and close acquaintance of mine, so I have met them all personally.

Media height listings are almost always exaggerated.

Deuce should be starting at the two he’s shooting almost 10%pts better than Derrio and also just playing better in all other phases of the game.

Major also should be playing Deuce and Derrio at the point to give Henry a rest. Playing your best scorer 16-17 min a game on a team that struggles to score is just DUMB.

So the schtick is the same PLAY YOUR BEST PLAYERS.

[b]MAJOR ON BRISCOE:

“I’d say he had a really good year,” Major said.[/b] “He’s in a tough position. Our guard play in terms of ball-handling and guys we had to rely on to take care of the ball, make plays and get things going in the offense, we really had two guys to do that. Just with our limited numbers, it really puts almost an unfair kind of pressure to ask a guy to handle the ball, take care of the ball and take great shots, defend at a high level and play 35-plus minutes a game. With that, and it being his first year on the floor with us, he had his ups and downs, like some other guys did. But … for what we asked him to do, I thought he had a very good season.”

Briscoe, who started 28 games, averaged 12.8 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 1.5 steals. He was instrumental in leading Charlotte to three significant upsets: a 49-48 win over then-No. 7 Tennessee, a double-overtime triumph at Georgia Tech, and a 66-62 home win over Xavier.

Majors words not mine. We are NOT good enough to put that type of talent on the bench for over half the game ::slight_smile:

WE ARE CHARLOTTE NOT SYRACUSE ;D

I think the “Size King” thing is getting blown way out of proportion. Just because Major prefers to recruit and play taller guards does not mean he is living in some bizarro world where your basketball ability is directly tied to your height.

Major simply believes that taller guards give him the most options in playing the defense he wants to play. Have you not noticed all the switching on screens now? His philosophy relies on the ability for anyone to guard any position for up to 35 seconds at a time. You just can’t do this with a 5’10" guard, it’s just that simple. Small guards require the other defender to flash the player with the ball while they fight through the screen. If you watch much college basketball these days, the really good teams do a lot more switching than fighting through.

With Major, size alone has nothing to do with offensive ability. It’s the combination of the lack of size and strength. It’s not like he hasn’t seen some of the sub-6 foot guards who are quick as hell and solid as a rock? I doubt he would argue against Reggie Hamilton of Oakland who is one of the country’s leading scorers or Randy Davis of Ball State who is one of the leaders in assists being very good players, but he learned a philosophy from Thad Matta he believes in and can recruit for every year, and that is guards with size who will play defense the way he wants…its that simple.

Disagree with his philosophy? Fine, it’s still up for debate and perhaps will be for a time, but understand it first.