Can't take much more

Spring Game - April 5th

Just another day where the AD tries to suppress attendance on what should be a big event.

Just another day where the AD tries to suppress attendance on what should be a big event.[/quote]Sadly, they actually are trying to do this because the spring game was too much work last year. They want it to be a smaller event this year. Wish I was joking.

Just another day where the AD tries to suppress attendance on what should be a big event.[/quote]Sadly, they actually are trying to do this because the spring game was too much work last year. They want it to be a smaller event this year. Wish I was joking.[/quote]

While I dont doubt that many there (ticket office I would think, maybe AF) want the spring game to be a big success - how much publicity have we seen for it? I’ve come to the conclusion that I think they want as many people as possible but with the minimum investment on their side. Where ever the crowd lands is where it lands.

Just another day where the AD tries to suppress attendance on what should be a big event.[/quote]
Sadly, they actually are trying to do this because the spring game was too much work last year. They want it to be a smaller event this year. Wish I was joking.[/quote]

I know you are usually reliable with the information you post. However, where did you hear this? To me, that would be more outrageous than not firing Major and Judy refusing to do interviews.

Just another day where the AD tries to suppress attendance on what should be a big event.[/quote]Sadly, they actually are trying to do this because the spring game was too much work last year. They want it to be a smaller event this year. Wish I was joking.[/quote]

clt says you cannot be serious.

It’s a very intentional good ole boy network. That’s why the ad is so defensive all of a sudden. The bull stuff is growing too massive to hide. Our ad relies on student fees and about 10 donors that are all friends of Judy. This is intentional so that nobody complains. It seems like they don’t want us because they don’t want us, the average donating fans. They want a system with no accountability to people that write checks. That’s why the fsl system was so shocking. Now people have a right to complain, and the ad can’t just sweep everything under the rug. Letting Bobby go messed up the good ole boy network. People got upset. To fire major would be to admit fault, and to admit fault would be to say accountability is needed. They don’t want that.

TRUTH #BOOM

Uh-oh. Clayton is getting down to the truth.

::slight_smile:

Are you serious? I really hope this isn’t true because then Admin would be completely out of touch with how big time football works…right along with those crappy speakers that we have via the P.A. system there at JR Stadium. Horrible! I’m actually wishing for this years spring game to be an even bigger event than last year. There was entirely too much downtime during the spring event last year. We need more alumni, students and causual city fans to show up on the 5th. Me and the gf will for sure be there.

[quote=“metro, post:16, topic:28709”][quote=“NinerWupAss, post:14, topic:28709”][quote=“pickman, post:1, topic:28709”]I think I need a break from the negativity that spews from this board on a daily basis. Not to mention the updates on farts and sh!ts. How many times has someone posted “I just don’t care any more” then follow that up with about 100 more complaining posts. Many posts are more likely to incite than inform. Does anyone really think the AD will have any kind of a reaction to the posts on this board? Do you really think she will deal with any issues regarding the head coach in public forum? I know this board is privileged to have so many coaching, recruiting and administration experts posting here, but is it not time to change the dialogue and move on? If not, then you are most likely involved in an deliberate effort to run off the coach and/or AD.

I for one, will not play a part in such an effort.[/quote]

I can respect this. I think my question is for many the options are either to fight for a change in leadership be it coach and/or AD or walk away from the program. All I care about is winning and getting to the NCAAs - we are at 9 years of that not happening and nothing I have seen recently makes me think we can achieve that in the near future. OK I also care about how we market and relate to our fanbase - not knocking it out of the park there either. For me personally it has come to a point where I can not blindly follow where they are leading because I don’t believe they are leading us to a good place. The choice then becomes walk away or fight for change. if I didn’t care about this school then I would take my money and time and just walk away, sadly it appears many are doing that. I do care though and I don’t want to see things degrade further. I want to see us achieve. We had talent to win this year and certainly talent to do better than we did. The coach is in over his head. Next year we bring in more talent and maybe that talent overcomes his lack of ability and we win - we might even sneak into NCAAs since we are in such a terrible basketball conference - it won’t change the fact though that he can’t coach the team to success, he has to have such a talent advantage that he can win. How sustainable of a model is that for us? Even if that work on a CUSA scale it won’t work once we make the tourny. If the AD can’t see this (I think they can, but at this point it’s Phil and ego calling the shots) then it’s very hard to give them a pass and let them continue to lead us to where we have been. In the end for me if this is what is acceptable to the AD then we never should have fired Bobby. He was giving us the same results for less money and at least he was an alum.[/quote]
^^^^^ what he said x100000[/quote]

I second this. It has just been disappointing and frustrating for everyone who loves this school. I am about to graduate and I am going to be donating money regardless, just sucks with the results I’ve seen with some of the programs (excluding football since it was only year one this past season). I believe everyone is on the same page with all the similar comments I see. I wish Judy wouldn’t have gave Major that extension and just waited to see how the program did after the one pretty decent year we had last year.

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They’ll never take our freedom Savio.

After seeing the terms of the contract/extension, I have zero issues with it. The only way we’re stuck paying him (and only his base salary at that) is if he takes time off of coaching.

If he does that, he’s gonna have a hard time getting back into coaching and with his history he should get a high paying assistant job. We’re likely not going to be on the hook for much of what we owe him if we fire him.

If he worked out, the extension is great, if not we’re free to fire with minimal risk. I applaud the decision, regardless of how I feel about Major.

All that said, because we structured the contract that way, he should have been let go to open the door for someone who can get it done. I hope that next year is the year and I would love to be wrong. I just don’t feel he is THE guy. We lost a lot of games this year to teams we had no business losing to and that is an issue. If the AD’s gambit pays off and Major is the guy, I will be very happy. If he isn’t, it will be a wasted year and we’ll have lost another significant chunk of our dwindling fan base.

I doubt Woods and Dorn come here without some kind of extension. If Rose doesn’t give Major anything and allows him to go into his last year with no extension beyond, then they would essentially be hurting the program in the future if they did end up deciding to extend him after this year by undermining his ability to recruit (this and future years too, since relationships need to start early for a program like ours). Complaining about the fact that an extension was given means you think they should have submarined Major when many signs were pointing to improvement. If you want them to do that, why not just fire him after the improved 3rd year and move on like most major programs would if they didn’t want to extend?

That said, I certainly think you can argue about the length of the extension. However, as others have pointed out, this extension was much smarter than the one given to Lutz, and would not cost the university nearly as much as that crazy extension did if they decided to fire him this year or next.

So at the end of the day, future inmates run the asylum
Got it

I have zero problems with the extension. I have a lot of problems with radio silence and our performance on the court this year.

[quote=“metro, post:36, topic:28709”]So at the end of the day, future inmates run the asylum
Got it[/quote]

I know you are constantly trying to score points against Judy, but you undermine your position when your comments come off as butthurt about the Lutz firing. My advice: stay away from that. It does you no good.

One thing I want to be crystal clear on - though I do not think Major is going anywhere, I think the idea that Ken is pushing is sincere and likely accurate. Furthermore, though I completely understand the frustration associated with where we are (9 freaking years since an NCAA bid!!!), be prepared for the fallout should we reboot the basketball staff and the AD. It’s optimistic to think we can make a change and not suffer any casualties, but it’s not supported by history. If/when we do, we will lose players, possibly several (key pieces). Before someone knee jerks and reads too much in to this, know that my comment is limited to this: be prepared for the price of change - it could potentially be very significant in hoops. To me, part of my despair over where we are is that the solution likely means crippling the team for at least a couple more years. That’s a bitter pill. The only way to survive that would be to hire a blue chip coach, and we do not have the resources, facilities, backing, or frankly tradition to do so.

We’re in a tough place.

[quote=“metro, post:36, topic:28709”]So at the end of the day, future inmates run the asylum
Got it[/quote]

It’s only an asylum if you let asshats run it. It isn’t a hard concept to grasp.

[quote=“NinerAdvocate, post:38, topic:28709”][quote=“metro, post:36, topic:28709”]So at the end of the day, future inmates run the asylum
Got it[/quote]

I know you are constantly trying to score points against Judy, but you undermine your position when your comments come off as butthurt about the Lutz firing. My advice: stay away from that. It does you no good.

One thing I want to be crystal clear on - though I do not think Major is going anywhere, I think the idea that Ken is pushing is sincere and likely accurate. Furthermore, though I completely understand the frustration associated with where we are (9 freaking years since an NCAA bid!!!), be prepared for the fallout should we reboot the basketball staff and the AD. It’s optimistic to think we can make a change and not suffer any casualties, but it’s not supported by history. If/when we do, we will lose players, possibly several (key pieces). Before someone knee jerks and reads too much in to this, know that my comment is limited to this: be prepared for the price of change - it could potentially be very significant in hoops. To me, part of my despair over where we are is that the solution likely means crippling the team for at least a couple more years. That’s a bitter pill. The only way to survive that would be to hire a blue chip coach, and we do not have the resources, facilities, backing, or frankly tradition to do so.

We’re in a tough place.[/quote]

We lost 3 players early from last years team with no changes in the staff and there is no guarantee we won’t lose any this offseason. I don’t think what we could potentially lose outweighs what damage could be done if Major stays at the helm of the program.