Well he is better than Green! The only personâs game that Green can stop is HIS OWN!
[quote=â73niner, post:20, topic:25937â] Give me a break, the best defensive option with Deuce? He canât stop anybody from penetrating because heâs small, slow for his size, with bad technique. Now on the positive side, heâs not forcing the issue on offense but letting the game come to him more in the last 2 games. That makes him a much better contributor and has earned more minutes. I hope it continues because we desperately need another scorer whoâs not so streaky.[/quote]He was referring to Deuce as the best offensive option and Henry as the best defensive weapon in the backcourt.
Thanks 2k for clearing that up. 8)
Thats my point 2k. Deuce clearly should be starting and whats worse heâs not even getting starter min. Avg 14min a game.
Major played the kid 17 min tonight. He wouldnât have even played that much if Derrio hadnât damn near threw the game with 2 straight turnovers in the last minute of a 5 point game.
Major either has no clue as a coach or his self destructing thirst for SIZE is totally out of control.
The experiment is over Deuce and Henry give us legitimate offensive and defensive weapons in the backcourt. A combination that gives us the best opportunity to win games.
If Major continues to overlook the obvious and does not start and play these two 25 to 30 min together that will only further solidify his ineptitude as a coach.[/quote] So now itâs obvious he should be playing Henry? Just a few days ago you were saying Major is clueless because he doesnât bench Henry and start Briscoe. You donât feel that way anymore? I guess now youâve given up going after Henry, and decided attacking Green is the best way to help out your favorite player. Except that this doesnât fit your âSIZE KINGâ contention all that well, Green is not much bigger than Briscoe. So what is it really thatâs holding Briscoe back now? Favoritism over how long theyâve been here?
Perhaps Briscoeâs defense and past performance this season are holding him back so far, as he looked terrible the first 3.5 games and had done NOTHING to earn more minutes. Since then, heâs played a little better, I would agree with you that Briscoe probably is earning more playing time at this point than Green (or the other non-Henry guards), but the reasons youâre using to say this make no sense and the shots youâre taking at Major over him not seeing the âobviousâ read rather ridiculous (given you were saying something completely different just last week).
[quote=âsokool, post:16, topic:25937â][b]IMO Deuce and Henry have separated themselves in this 4 man guard rotation Major is butchering. Those two should be starting and playing the bulk of the minutes. PERIOD
To start and continue to play Derrio 29 min a game considering the way he is struggling, MAJOR IS NOT PLAYING TO WIN, HE IS PLAYING FAVORITES.[/b][/quote] Just last week you were agreeing with people that Major should be starting Briscoe and Green, that these two had great chemistry together. You changed your mind?
Thats my point 2k. Deuce clearly should be starting and whats worse heâs not even getting starter min. Avg 14min a game.
Major played the kid 17 min tonight. He wouldnât have even played that much if Derrio hadnât damn near threw the game with 2 straight turnovers in the last minute of a 5 point game.
Major either has no clue as a coach or his self destructing thirst for SIZE is totally out of control.
The experiment is over Deuce and Henry give us legitimate offensive and defensive weapons in the backcourt. A combination that gives us the best opportunity to win games.
If Major continues to overlook the obvious and does not start and play these two 25 to 30 min together that will only further solidify his ineptitude as a coach.[/quote] So now itâs obvious he should be playing Henry? Just a few days ago you were saying Major is clueless because he doesnât bench Henry and start Briscoe. You donât feel that way anymore? I guess now youâve given up going after Henry, and decided attacking Green is the best way to help out your favorite player. Except that this doesnât fit your âSIZE KINGâ contention all that well, Green is not much bigger than Briscoe. So what is it really thatâs holding Briscoe back now? Favoritism over how long theyâve been here?
Perhaps Briscoeâs defense and past performance this season are holding him back so far, as he looked terrible the first 3.5 games and had done NOTHING to earn more minutes. Since then, heâs played a little better, I would agree with you that Briscoe probably is earning more playing time at this point than Green (or the other non-Henry guards), but the reasons youâre using to say this make no sense and the shots youâre taking at Major over him not seeing the âobviousâ read rather ridiculous (given you were saying something completely different just last week).[/quote]
Seriously. I definitely like sokoolâs passion, but constantly attacking the coach and non Briscoe players gets old when its a broken record. We all know he is not exactly an objective observer.
That being said, I do like that Briscoe has really piicked up his play the last 2 games. Thatâs the kind of play I expected from him before the season and hope he continues it. If he does, Iâm sure the minutes will follow.
Briscoe is responding admirably to his role. Sometimes being a little pissed off is a good thing. Complete 180 from the CMU and Lamar games.
First, Iâd like to thank the WS coach for playing a man-to-man defense instead of a packed zone.
Congrats to the team for making shots. They needed every bucket due to the rash of turnovers.
What did Bras do to get a tech near the end of the game?
I wasnât able to watch the game last night⌠Can someone please explain to me how on earth Braz had SEVEN turnovers???
A rational thought on some of the playing time decisions that coach is making could be due to the 98% that us fans donât see and that is practice. My bet is that some of the players are more aggresive in practice and dominate a smaller Briscoe, yet they are more tentitive during the game. I would be playing them over Briscoe in that case as well. Eventually, you do have to look at where it matters and that is in the games, and I think that is why Deuceâs on floor time is gradually rising. There was a point around two or three minutes remaining where Deuce had a clear defensive rebound and the opposing player went up and took it away. That either led to an easy basket or free throws if I recall correctly. There is no way a taller guard doesnât come down with that ball. That being said I am a Deuce fan and want to see him get about 25 minutes a game.
Thats my point 2k. Deuce clearly should be starting and whats worse heâs not even getting starter min. Avg 14min a game.
Major played the kid 17 min tonight. He wouldnât have even played that much if Derrio hadnât damn near threw the game with 2 straight turnovers in the last minute of a 5 point game.
Major either has no clue as a coach or his self destructing thirst for SIZE is totally out of control.
The experiment is over Deuce and Henry give us legitimate offensive and defensive weapons in the backcourt. A combination that gives us the best opportunity to win games.
If Major continues to overlook the obvious and does not start and play these two 25 to 30 min together that will only further solidify his ineptitude as a coach.[/quote] So now itâs obvious he should be playing Henry? Just a few days ago you were saying Major is clueless because he doesnât bench Henry and start Briscoe. You donât feel that way anymore? I guess now youâve given up going after Henry, and decided attacking Green is the best way to help out your favorite player. Except that this doesnât fit your âSIZE KINGâ contention all that well, Green is not much bigger than Briscoe. So what is it really thatâs holding Briscoe back now? Favoritism over how long theyâve been here?
Perhaps Briscoeâs defense and past performance this season are holding him back so far, as he looked terrible the first 3.5 games and had done NOTHING to earn more minutes. Since then, heâs played a little better, I would agree with you that Briscoe probably is earning more playing time at this point than Green (or the other non-Henry guards), but the reasons youâre using to say this make no sense and the shots youâre taking at Major over him not seeing the âobviousâ read rather ridiculous (given you were saying something completely different just last week).[/quote]
Iâm not attacking people, I am attacking performances and ability.
And will continue to do so just as you and many others have attacked Briscoeâs performance i.e. he cant handle the ball, heâs too small to be effective in the A-10, cant play, cant defend, struggles with big defenders, not good enough to start, YADA YADA YADA.
Talk about something getting OLD?
This isnât personal its business.
Guess you didnât get the Memo. Thatâs what message boards are for.
So you respectfully throw your shots and iâll throw mine because at the end of the day, none of our opinions make a damn bit of difference to the grand scheme of things.
Its is what it is.
Forced the ball against the double team a lot.
[quote=â9erken, post:25, topic:25937â][quote=âsokool, post:16, topic:25937â][b]IMO Deuce and Henry have separated themselves in this 4 man guard rotation Major is butchering. Those two should be starting and playing the bulk of the minutes. PERIOD
To start and continue to play Derrio 29 min a game considering the way he is struggling, MAJOR IS NOT PLAYING TO WIN, HE IS PLAYING FAVORITES.[/b][/quote] Just last week you were agreeing with people that Major should be starting Briscoe and Green, that these two had great chemistry together. You changed your mind?[/quote]
Just last week P.Henry was turning the ball over at an ridiculous rate and showing little to no offensive skill set.
Recently his game has somewhat picked up and Henry and Briscoe are currently playing at level that is clearly higher than LUKA and DERRIO.
So for right now they give us the most potent backcourt combination and should be starting and playing the bulk of the minutes.
If the level of their performance changes then so will my assessment of their starting role and playing time.
Unlike Major and some of our fans I AM UNWAVERING IN MY POSITION that politics, favoritism or size discrimination have no place in this game.
You start and play the players who are currently and consistently playing the best and give you the best chance of winning NOW. PERIOD
Also I AM UNWAVERING IN MY POSITION that you show me a fan, coach, team, or player, that is comfortable losing this year in hopes of winning the next, AND IâLL SHOW YOU AH LOSER.
I want and expect a coach,players,and team that will do everything possible to win today and everyday.
Tomorrow is not promised to anyone this game.
Forced the ball against the double team a lot.[/quote]
âŚand at least 2 charges called against him.
Forced the ball against the double team a lot.[/quote]
âŚand at least 2 charges called against him.[/quote]
Did he have one or two charges? I know Nickerson had two charges too.
Thats my point 2k. Deuce clearly should be starting and whats worse heâs not even getting starter min. Avg 14min a game.
Major played the kid 17 min tonight. He wouldnât have even played that much if Derrio hadnât damn near threw the game with 2 straight turnovers in the last minute of a 5 point game.
Major either has no clue as a coach or his self destructing thirst for SIZE is totally out of control.
The experiment is over Deuce and Henry give us legitimate offensive and defensive weapons in the backcourt. A combination that gives us the best opportunity to win games.[/quote]
Perhaps Briscoeâs defense and past performance this season are holding him back so far, as he looked terrible the first 3.5 games and had done NOTHING to earn more minutes. Since then, heâs played a little better, I would agree with you that Briscoe probably is earning more playing time at this point than Green (or the other non-Henry guards), but the reasons youâre using to say this make no sense and the shots youâre taking at Major over him not seeing the âobviousâ read rather ridiculous (given you were saying something completely different just last week).[/quote]
Your anti-Briscoe opinion is about as strong as Sokoolâs pro-Briscoe opinion. You canât really make a fair observation of how well a guy was playing when he was only averaging 6.5 minutes in 2 of those games. Plus, Major has said on at least 2 different occasions that he was intentionally trying to get more size on the perimeter.
Like NLP said, hopefully that has fired up Briscoe and heâs able to react positively.
[quote=âsokool, post:16, topic:25937â][quote=âNormmm, post:7, topic:25937â]Positives:
We led the whole game.
Off FG% 56%
Def FG% 37%!!!
Briscoe seems to be learning/accepting his role better
Henry 5/2 assist to turnover
Braswell!
Negatives:
Turnovers
Technical fouls[/quote]
Normm we are not good enough to keep bringing Briscoe off the bench. We need what he brings to the table from beginning to end.[/quote]
Sokool, I said at the beginning of the season that I thought Henry and Deuce should probably be the starters. Henryâs size could allow him to guard the 2 on def, while allowing Deuce to be the 2 on offense. So Iâm with you.
But, at this point Iâve accepted Majorâs plan to get more size on the perimeter. And honestly feel that Deuce can be a benefit off of the bench. We need some type of scoring punch from the bench.
[quote=âNormmm, post:36, topic:25937â]Your anti-Briscoe opinion is about as strong as Sokoolâs pro-Briscoe opinion. You canât really make a fair observation of how well a guy was playing when he was only averaging 6.5 minutes in 2 of those games. Plus, Major has said on at least 2 different occasions that he was intentionally trying to get more size on the perimeter.
Like NLP said, hopefully that has fired up Briscoe and heâs able to react positively.[/quote]If you say so. Maybe my posts are coming across that way because Iâm reacting to sokoolâs posts. But Briscoe looked pretty bad in the first 3 games where he got 17 min., 8 min., and 5 min. And from what I saw during those minutes, Briscoe was not playing well during any of that time. In the 5 min. he played against Lamar, he had a turnover and 2 fouls, and really almost had two more turnovers on bad passes. He did better against ETSU, and he also played 25 min. in that game, more than any other guard. He played 17 min. against Wright St. and I mentioned it looked like he had a good game. So this is the basis for Major being âcluelessâ about rotations? Just seems unreasonable to me. I think Briscoe would be playing more if he had played better earlier in the season, more like how he had been playing last year. Iâm rooting for him to do better, because he could really help the team.
[quote=âsokool, post:33, topic:25937â]Just last week P.Henry was turning the ball over at an ridiculous rate and showing little to no offensive skill set.
Recently his game has somewhat picked up and Henry and Briscoe are currently playing at level that is clearly higher than LUKA and DERRIO.
So for right now they give us the most potent backcourt combination and should be starting and playing the bulk of the minutes.
If the level of their performance changes then so will my assessment of their starting role and playing time.
Unlike Major and some of our fans I AM UNWAVERING IN MY POSITION that politics, favoritism or size discrimination have no place in this game.
You start and play the players who are currently and consistently playing the best and give you the best chance of winning NOW. PERIOD
Also I AM UNWAVERING IN MY POSITION that you show me a fan, coach, team, or player, that is comfortable losing this year in hopes of winning the next, AND IâLL SHOW YOU AH LOSER.
I want and expect a coach,players,and team that will do everything possible to win today and everyday.
Tomorrow is not promised to anyone this game.[/quote]And yet you would have benched Henry in place of Briscoe right before his improvement. Yet you attacked the coaches for being âcluelessâ about rotations for not playing Briscoe. Criticism I can understand, but youâre basically claiming that Major knows nothing about rotations based on it while you yourself would have benched a player that is playing very well right now. Strikes me as unreasonable. Youâre welcome to your opinion, but Iâm also going to comment when I think youâre being unreasonable. We agree that Briscoe is playing better than Green right now on offense, so Iâm guessing heâll start to see his minutes go up, but heâll need to also improve his defense if heâs going to get the majority of minutes at the spot. If he continues playing well, yet gets less than 10 minutes a game, I may join you in questioning the rotations more aggressively.
I think youâre unwavering in your support of Briscoe. Which is fine, just colors your perspective in my view.
I think the coaches have to think about more than one thing at once. They think about winning today if they can, but they also have to take a balanced, long term view sometimes, and that may mean if they think an option that might help them win a game today costs them more games in the future, they shouldnât take that option. Iâm fine with the coaches making those decisions, as long as the long term improvement becomes evident. If it doesnât work, theyâll be fired just like so many other coaches that fail to get their team to post season play.
[quote=â9erken, post:38, topic:25937â][quote=âNormmm, post:36, topic:25937â]Your anti-Briscoe opinion is about as strong as Sokoolâs pro-Briscoe opinion. You canât really make a fair observation of how well a guy was playing when he was only averaging 6.5 minutes in 2 of those games. Plus, Major has said on at least 2 different occasions that he was intentionally trying to get more size on the perimeter.
Like NLP said, hopefully that has fired up Briscoe and heâs able to react positively.[/quote]If you say so. Maybe my posts are coming across that way because Iâm reacting to sokoolâs posts. But Briscoe looked pretty bad in the first 3 games where he got 17 min., 8 min., and 5 min. And from what I saw during those minutes, Briscoe was not playing well during any of that time. In the 5 min. he played against Lamar, he had a turnover and 2 fouls, and really almost had two more turnovers on bad passes. He did better against ETSU, and he also played 25 min. in that game, more than any other guard. He played 17 min. against Wright St. and I mentioned it looked like he had a good game. So this is the basis for Major being âcluelessâ about rotations? Just seems unreasonable to me. I think Briscoe would be playing more if he had played better earlier in the season, more like how he had been playing last year. Iâm rooting for him to do better, because he could really help the team.[/quote]
Iâm really not in the business of bashing players. But other than size, Voncina had done very little to justify getting way more minutes IMO.
It seems Major, like most other coaches, was experimenting with rotations and wanted to become a bigger team. Weâll see how it pans out and what type of adjustments he makes.