The G5 playoff is not attractive to me unless it includes the ACC and Big 12 - which is essentially the same thing as if the SEC and B1G left to do their own thing.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. However I think a G5 playoff could hasten that separation by giving the non P? Teams something to grab on to.
BTW. Did you guys see how the pac12 was stripped of its autonomy status this week?
So beyond larger budgets (for now) Washington state and Oregon state are now officially G5.
Or G6 depending on how the conferences flesh out.
If the B10 and SEC strip a few key programs from the B12 and ACC and then break off, I agree thatâs best for us.
That would make the new division much stronger than if it were made up of just the G5.
Just watch everything regress to the mean and we end up back in the same conference as Houston, Cincinnati, Louisville, SMU, UCF. It will seem like old times.
Maybe not Louisville. They seem to have a lot of money.
Thatâs probably what will happen. How it is organized geographically / divisions is just logistics, but basically, the SEC and B1G are probably going to handpick who else they want at the cool kids table, maybe even kicking a few out to make room.
The rest of us, including WSU, OSU, and whatâs left of the ACC and Big 12 when they are done, are probably better off all throwing in together, as a single TV rights package, with our own playoff/ bowls.
As long as the $ is decent, it probably wonât affect us all that much. We might not play Tennessee or Georgia or CHeat again.
What would be particularly innovative would be if the new 90 or so team league split into 2 tiers with relegation and promotion. That might make it exciting and be enough to get the ACC and Big 12 teams to buy in. It would certainly be something the SEC/B1G wasnât offering.
I def see them booting Vandy and Rutgers out. Why keep them in? You are sharing revenue with someone that isnât carrying their weight. Kick them out and bring in Chapel Hill and FSU. The only reason to retain some of those schools was for the academics - but at this point academics is not even on the radar. As long as the presidents and chancellors can be convinced that is what is going to happen.
It will be interesting because I think some SEC and B10 programs that think they are safe may not be. I donât think south carolina is a sure thing - schools like that that THINK they are in the âinâ crowd may find out they actually arenât.
Illinois
Indiana
Northwestern
Vandy
Rutgers
Arkansas
Miss St
Etc
If itâs about maximizing revenue to each school and academics donât matter - why keep Vandy? Why wouldnât you replace them with Chapel Hill?
Give the fans what they want. A 14 team playoff that consists of the league champions from the following conferences:
AAC, CUSA, MAC, Mountain West, and Sun Belt
The remaining 9 comes from the 9 top teams from those conferences or an FBS Independent based on a new ratings system geared towards those conferences. When the big shift occurs and the teams are left out, they will be forced to join one of the other conferences or create a new conference that gets invited to the playoff.
Iâm warming up to the idea but how many of you watch a single game of the FCS playoffs every year?
I have increased my viewership of the FCS playoffs every year for the last few years. I donât watch them all but a lot.
And they are good games.
I donât see them booting out every school in Illinois. Thatâs a big state with a lot of eyeballs.
Northwestern yes.
Illinois no.
In states with multiple members ala Tennessee, NC, MS, some schools are probably shaking in their boots.
But what is the actual precedent and process for booting out a conference member.
From what I can recall we have never seen a conference member that was investing properly in athletics kicked out of a conference.
Can they ACTUALLY kick a school out if they are fulfilling all obligations?
That sounds like a really strong lawsuit to me.
Wouldnât they have to leave and form a new conference which means they may lose the Big10 or SEC name?
Legal minds! What say you?
It depends on their bylaws. Whatever they say goes.
They donât have to boot anyone out. They just have to leave the league they are in and if enough do them do it they can get the votes needed to make it as painless as possible. The departing schools just form an all new league together. New terms and payouts with new contracts with tv partners.
clt says we were kicked out of cusa for not having fb
It is known
Schools getting kicked out of their conference pretty rare but does occur. The Southern Conference dismissed Davidson in 1988 over a football-related issue. DC spent two years as an independent and then another two in the Big South before being readmitted to the SoCon in 1992.
More recently St. Thomas - now a D-I member of the Summit - was expelled from D-III Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference for basically being too good and winning numerous conference championships! Anyway, UTS ended up transitioning directly to D-I after petitioning the NCAA to skip the D-II step.
And, of course, Temple football being kicked out of the Big East!
Being Vanderbilt is a founding member of the SEC, I canât see them being kicked out of the conference. However, I feel that Vandy would be more likely to join another that is related to academics (Northwestern, Duke and other similar schools).