Conference Realignment

I think its going to speed up and slow down all at the same time. The actual movement is going to slow down as things settle for a bit, contracts are played out and court challenges made. While all that is happening the discussions will pick up speed so when the stage is set the movement will be fast,

I get the sense you might be the type to argue the sky isn’t really blue. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: The continue winning description applies to everybody. If you’re not winning you’re most likely less significant.

Specifically for App, the continuing winning might not have made much of a difference for them as they were FCS. I’ll stick with the original comment that their biggest growth came from beating Mich.

That one win vs Michigan would not have moved the needle at all if they were and continued to be a 3 win team every year.

Yes…They have beat Michigan…but also…
They have beat UNC
They have beat Texas A&M
They have beat SC
They have beat ECU literally 20 times
They have an alltime record of nearly .650 (663-357)
They have 22 Conference Titles
They have been bowling 8 times and are 7-1 in those 8 bowls
They have been Nationally ranked for a total of 10 weeks

The Michigan win gave them a boost…particulalry when it comes to National visability and recognition…but their resume exudes excellence over multiple decades which is what builds a large, rabid and loyal following.

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Since 1984, App has had:

• 36 winning seasons

• 3 losing (1984, 1993, 2013)

• 1 .500 season (2022)

I guess I would take that…

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That’s a lot of info, as if you thought I said App sucks. But that’s not what I said or implied. I said the biggest thing that grew Apps fanbase was beating Mich as a FCS program.

I know exactly what you said…I said you were wrong.

I said Apps fanbase is what it is because of what they’ve done…per Run…since 1984. The Michigan win was a part of that…but just a part. And certainly not the one singular reason the fanbase became what they are today.

Not by a long shot.

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I agree TR. winning 3 nattys will do that…

Reading comprehension is important. I didn’t say it was the one singular thing either. For maybe the 4th time now, I said what grew Apps fanbase the most was beating Mich.

Like I said to NWA, of course winning is important. But that’s not unique to App. That applies to every school in the country. If you aren’t winning you’re mostly likely not growing your fanbase. What is unique to App was they were the first FCS team to beat a ranked FBS team.

Reading comprehension is important.

I heard you for the 4th time…and i said you’re wrong.

For the 2nd or 3rd time…That long list is why Apps fanbase is rabid and huge…the Michigan win was a part of that…but not the biggest reason. Not by a long shot.

clt says we have already passed appy in fb

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No, I said you’re wrong and my dad can beat up your dad. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Prior to 2016, their highest home attendance growth was 2007, the year they beat Mich. All the while with all of the resume that “exudes excellence”, their attendance declined roughly 11% by 2015. It took them 9 seasons to eclipse that 2007 mark, even though they expanded their stadium by 4,000 seats and then again by 14,000 seats, between 2008-2022. By as recently as 2019, their ave attendance was again below the 2007 mark.

AppAtt

Those are respectable numbers, especially in FCS era

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They won Nattys in 05, 06 & 07. I would think that would cause the increase more than one big win

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You seriously think beating Delaware is a bigger deal than beating Michigan in Ann Arbor? The ESPN coverage says otherwise.

Btw, North Dakota St has won like every FCS championship over the past decade. By using that logic their fanbase should be as big as Alabama’s.

Just dawned upon me that the biggest win for both the Niners and the Mountaineers came against Michigan - albeit MBB for us and football for App.

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clt is tired of seeing appy discussion, but you can just walk into their stadium without a ticket. they inflate attendance bigly

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Harsh

I think you’re making waaaay too much out of app beating Michigan. Yes it was a great win and a nice story but Michigan wasn’t a great team then. They were well on their way to getting their coach fired at that time.

They got blown out by an average at best Oregon team the very next game. Come on man……

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It’s not just me. Most sports media feels the same way.