When will each sport make their debut in Conference USA?
First sport to do so?
Perhaps a schedule of when the move will happen for each sport?
Conference tourney venues for sports that apply in our first year?
Just curious if any of this info is out there right now. Thanks.
[quote=“SteauA, post:1, topic:26815”]When will each sport make their debut in Conference USA?
First sport to do so?
Perhaps a schedule of when the move will happen for each sport?
Conference tourney venues for sports that apply in our first year?
Just curious if any of this info is out there right now. Thanks.[/quote]
All sports except football debut in 2013.
Football debuts in 2015.
The basketball tournament goes up for bid each year, so we don’t know where it will be. The host city/school has to be willing to bid a million to host it.
I have to imagine that Charlotte will be a popular host spot for basketball. We are convenient for ECU, ODU, ourselves, and UAB. We are also a fairly cheap flight from most places. One or two of the Texas cities will probably also be a popular host location.
With the Knights stadium likely being built uptown, I have to imagine that we’ll also be a popular spot for baseball tournaments.
The Belk Bowl is also a distinct possibility for CUSA with us now in the fold and the BE no longer having a team that would draw well in Charlotte.
We have a very good chance at being the center of the conference much like Memphis used to be.
If all sports are joining C-USA in 2013, was this our last season of A10 baseball?
[quote=“Hooner49, post:3, topic:26815”]If all sports are joining C-USA in 2013, was this our last season of A10 baseball?[/quote]I think the new conference year is July 2013 - so baseball and spring sports will still be in A10 - Right?
I think you’re right. Aren’t we supposed to host the A10 baseball tourney next year?
Next year will be our last year in the A10 for all sports. Baseball, Softball and Track & Field will be the last sports we play in the A10. While our football team will not be in CUSA for 2 more years afterward, when they take the field for the first game all our other sports will be in CUSA.
The basketball tournament goes up for bid each year, so we don’t know where it will be. The host city/school has to be willing to bid a million to host it.
I have to imagine that Charlotte will be a popular host spot for basketball. We are convenient for ECU, ODU, ourselves, and UAB. We are also a fairly cheap flight from most places. One or two of the Texas cities will probably also be a popular host location.
We have a very good chance at being the center of the conference much like Memphis used to be.[/quote]I believe that the last time we hosted a Men’s conference basketball tournament we were in the Sun Belt. We don’t bid because it takes a big sponsor to write the guarantee check and they only get some of their money back if we sell most of the tickets. Selling tickets to people not associated with the participating schools to the Tournament in Charlotte during the same week as the ACC Tournament is not recipe for success. The big sponsors do not believe we will be able to sell the tickets and they will end up owning 10,000 empty seats.
The CIAA Tournament is not that week, and it is a different animal altogether. It’s success has nothing to do with our ability to host the C-USA tourney.
I’m very well informed of the football situation. This was more related to the other sports.
So the spring sports in 2013 will still be part of the A-10 which technically means some won’t join C-USA until 2014
[quote=“SteauA, post:8, topic:26815”]I’m very well informed of the football situation. This was more related to the other sports.
So the spring sports in 2013 will still be part of the A-10 which technically means some won’t join C-USA until 2014[/quote]Correct.
[quote=“SteauA, post:8, topic:26815”]I’m very well informed of the football situation. This was more related to the other sports.
So the spring sports in 2013 will still be part of the A-10 which technically means some won’t join C-USA until 2014[/quote]
The important thing to remember is that an NCAA “year” starts on July 1st, not January 1st.
The basketball tournament goes up for bid each year, so we don’t know where it will be. The host city/school has to be willing to bid a million to host it.
I have to imagine that Charlotte will be a popular host spot for basketball. We are convenient for ECU, ODU, ourselves, and UAB. We are also a fairly cheap flight from most places. One or two of the Texas cities will probably also be a popular host location.
We have a very good chance at being the center of the conference much like Memphis used to be.[/quote]I believe that the last time we hosted a Men’s conference basketball tournament we were in the Sun Belt. We don’t bid because it takes a big sponsor to write the guarantee check and they only get some of their money back if we sell most of the tickets. Selling tickets to people not associated with the participating schools to the Tournament in Charlotte during the same week as the ACC Tournament is not recipe for success. The big sponsors do not believe we will be able to sell the tickets and they will end up owning 10,000 empty seats.
The CIAA Tournament is not that week, and it is a different animal altogether. It’s success has nothing to do with our ability to host the C-USA tourney.[/quote]
This.
The basketball tournament goes up for bid each year, so we don’t know where it will be. The host city/school has to be willing to bid a million to host it.
I have to imagine that Charlotte will be a popular host spot for basketball. We are convenient for ECU, ODU, ourselves, and UAB. We are also a fairly cheap flight from most places. One or two of the Texas cities will probably also be a popular host location.
We have a very good chance at being the center of the conference much like Memphis used to be.[/quote]I believe that the last time we hosted a Men’s conference basketball tournament we were in the Sun Belt. We don’t bid because it takes a big sponsor to write the guarantee check and they only get some of their money back if we sell most of the tickets. Selling tickets to people not associated with the participating schools to the Tournament in Charlotte during the same week as the ACC Tournament is not recipe for success. The big sponsors do not believe we will be able to sell the tickets and they will end up owning 10,000 empty seats.
The CIAA Tournament is not that week, and it is a different animal altogether. It’s success has nothing to do with our ability to host the C-USA tourney.[/quote]Well, NC is now sort of the middle of the eastern side of the conference. All the teams that actually average a fair number of fans per game are in the East except for UTEP.
Charlotte is set up for the tournament better than any other city in the east. Much fewer fans would go to Tulane, Miami, Huntington, or even Norfolk.
We have an arena in the middle of the city that allows fans to stay in hotels and walk to the games. Can’t do that in Norfolk as far as I know. If Norfolk has a downtown arena then it would be a good host location as well.
Charlotte and San Antonio are going to be the most visitor friendly cities to host the tournament.
The tournament has been done in Tulsa, it was a flop. It was done with success in El Paso, but it is only a success if UTEP makes the finals. It is inconvenient for everyone else.
Nobody in Miami cares about FIU and they are not driving distance for any of the other teams. Nobody in NO gives a shit about Tulane and they are a pretty long drive for any of the schools that are generally decent.
Nobody gives a shit about UTSA or Rice either.
UNT has okay attendance and I think it will be very good this year with the quality of team they’ll likely have, but Denton is about an hour from Dallas. You’d have to fly into Dallas and rent a car unless they had the tournament in Dallas.
Huntington isn’t near anyone and has a tiny airport.
UAB is a decent spot I suppose, but I’ve heard people say the tournament in B’ham in the past was kinda boring.
The basketball tournament goes up for bid each year, so we don’t know where it will be. The host city/school has to be willing to bid a million to host it.
I have to imagine that Charlotte will be a popular host spot for basketball. We are convenient for ECU, ODU, ourselves, and UAB. We are also a fairly cheap flight from most places. One or two of the Texas cities will probably also be a popular host location.
We have a very good chance at being the center of the conference much like Memphis used to be.[/quote]I believe that the last time we hosted a Men’s conference basketball tournament we were in the Sun Belt. We don’t bid because it takes a big sponsor to write the guarantee check and they only get some of their money back if we sell most of the tickets. Selling tickets to people not associated with the participating schools to the Tournament in Charlotte during the same week as the ACC Tournament is not recipe for success. The big sponsors do not believe we will be able to sell the tickets and they will end up owning 10,000 empty seats.
The CIAA Tournament is not that week, and it is a different animal altogether. It’s success has nothing to do with our ability to host the C-USA tourney.[/quote]Well, NC is now sort of the middle of the eastern side of the conference. All the teams that actually average a fair number of fans per game are in the East except for UTEP.
Charlotte is set up for the tournament better than any other city in the east. Much fewer fans would go to Tulane, Miami, Huntington, or even Norfolk.
We have an arena in the middle of the city that allows fans to stay in hotels and walk to the games. Can’t do that in Norfolk as far as I know. If Norfolk has a downtown arena then it would be a good host location as well.
Charlotte and San Antonio are going to be the most visitor friendly cities to host the tournament.
The tournament has been done in Tulsa, it was a flop. It was done with success in El Paso, but it is only a success if UTEP makes the finals. It is inconvenient for everyone else.
Nobody in Miami cares about FIU and they are not driving distance for any of the other teams. Nobody in NO gives a s*** about Tulane and they are a pretty long drive for any of the schools that are generally decent.
Nobody gives a s*** about UTSA or Rice either.
UNT has okay attendance and I think it will be very good this year with the quality of team they’ll likely have, but Denton is about an hour from Dallas. You’d have to fly into Dallas and rent a car unless they had the tournament in Dallas.
Huntington isn’t near anyone and has a tiny airport.
UAB is a decent spot I suppose, but I’ve heard people say the tournament in B’ham in the past was kinda boring.[/quote]I have been to a C-USA tournament in B’ham and the town is boring, but we won the tournament so we had fun.
NN, you make some valid points but I do not think we will ever see the tournament here. Back in the C-USA 1.0 days I probably went to 5-6 conference tournaments. The only schools that ever brought fans that numbered in the thousands were Cincy and Louisville. Charlotte would have a few hundred fans there and we were always in the hunt in those days. These tournaments are dependant on being able to sell tickets to the general public and that is why they have held it in Memphis for years. Memphis brings in the Walmart fans, and I do not think anyone else in C-USA 3.0 can do that. Charlotte would have to find a sponsor that was willing to spend a good bit of money to effectively buy all those extra seats and we will not go to the well for that. If we are going to ask BoA, Duke Energy, Chiquita, etc to write a big check it would be for something lasting, not four days of empty seats.
This. All the logistics and common sense aside that makes Charlotte a no brainer, it comes down to $.
The only wild card is the uptown crowd. If that group decides having CUSA stuff here is good then they will make the $ happen.
This. All the logistics and common sense aside that makes Charlotte a no brainer, it comes down to $.
The only wild card is the uptown crowd. If that group decides having CUSA stuff here is good then they will make the $ happen.[/quote]$ is going to be an issue at any of the host sites.
I just don’t see any locations selling more tickets to visiting teams than Charlotte. We are convenient to more locations than any other city except maybe New Orleans, but even that is like 7 hours away from most of the Texas schools.
We have 5 schools that are about 6 hours away or less. Sadly, we are also top 3 in CUSA 3.0 in attendance even at our current attendance levels.
The only way they can ensure a lot of butts in seats is to award the tournament to the expected conference winner for the upcoming season every year.
This. All the logistics and common sense aside that makes Charlotte a no brainer, it comes down to $.
The only wild card is the uptown crowd. If that group decides having CUSA stuff here is good then they will make the $ happen.[/quote]$ is going to be an issue at any of the host sites.
I just don’t see any locations selling more tickets to visiting teams than Charlotte. We are convenient to more locations than any other city except maybe New Orleans, but even that is like 7 hours away from most of the Texas schools.
We have 5 schools that are about 6 hours away or less. Sadly, we are also top 3 in CUSA 3.0 in attendance even at our current attendance levels.
The only way they can ensure a lot of butts in seats is to award the tournament to the expected conference winner for the upcoming season every year.[/quote]
I think it just comes down to any of those schools having the backing of their business community to lock down the sponsorhsips. If it were just ticket sales I would think we would stand a chance. Fact is we never hosted a METRO/CUSA basketball tournament and that was with some good traveling schools that we were close to when we were good. I just don’t think our AD has the stroke yet to get the business community behind this, they have other priorities I think.
Seems like some of the other schools enjoy a much warmer welcome and a greater amount of support in their respective cities than we do.
[quote=“Niner National, post:15, topic:26815”]I just don’t see any locations selling more tickets to visiting teams than Charlotte.[/quote]Again, you are correct but it makes no difference. The issue here is selling tickets to people not associated to a visiting team. The 14 C-USA teams might sell 14,000 tickets between them. That leaves half a million dollars worth of empty seats that the sponsor is going to have to buy. If C-USA took on the responsiblity of hosting the tournament and made each school buy their allotment of around 1300 seats (at TWC Arena) then we could get around needing a sponsor, but there is no way half of the schools are going to go for that because they will not bring 100 people to the tournament, no matter where it is held, and they do not want to pony up the money either.
I think it all comes down to how much TWC arena is wanting to charge for use… I have no idea what the economics of that look like.
I honestly don’t think we’ll draw any more or any less than anyone else, and if they’re willing to pony up the cash (or get the sponsors) so will we.
That aside, I think we’ll be targeting football related things (conference championship game) after our first few seasons. That is something that no one else in NC has really “staked a claim” to yet…
[quote=“zerogeneticsdc, post:18, topic:26815”]I think it all comes down to how much TWC arena is wanting to charge for use… I have no idea what the economics of that look like.
I honestly don’t think we’ll draw any more or any less than anyone else, and if they’re willing to pony up the cash (or get the sponsors) so will we.
That aside, I think we’ll be targeting football related things (conference championship game) after our first few seasons. That is something that no one else in NC has really “staked a claim” to yet…[/quote]
CUSA plays its football championship game at the higher ranked team’s home stadium.
[quote=“49RFootballNow, post:19, topic:26815”][quote=“zerogeneticsdc, post:18, topic:26815”]I think it all comes down to how much TWC arena is wanting to charge for use… I have no idea what the economics of that look like.
I honestly don’t think we’ll draw any more or any less than anyone else, and if they’re willing to pony up the cash (or get the sponsors) so will we.
That aside, I think we’ll be targeting football related things (conference championship game) after our first few seasons. That is something that no one else in NC has really “staked a claim” to yet…[/quote]
CUSA plays its football championship game at the higher ranked team’s home stadium.[/quote]
shows what I know.