Added frustration to our fans, we are watching other programs rise as we fall. East Carolina is moving up by going to the American Athletic Conf. with teams like Cincinnatti, Connecticutt, Memphis & other name schoold we played in Old. Conf. USA. Davidson is upping their out of conference strength of schedule playing ACC foes, etc & moving to the A-10. This brings more pressure on recruiting against them & I’m sure we are going to see some of our targets go to them in the future as well as the many other strong teams in the area we already recruit against. All the more reason we need a very strong Coach & winning program to recruit top level players. And even if Judy is correct, it does not matter how good the players are that we recruit & get if they do not have an excellent x’s & o’s coach with a game plan for them. Great coaches make players improve as the season goes along. Our players continually seem to diminish by the end of the season each year & to me that is very telling. And as Tom Sorensen insinuated withour actually printing it, we watched an up & coming coach at Winthrop (Greg Marshall) go to the NCAA almost every year and showed no interest in him as our coach while he continually seached & applied for jobs at nearby schools before his present one at Witchita State where he is #2 in the nation & 26-0 this year.
NN, seriously? YOU don’t know who Real is? I thought you knew everything.
Empathy is a bad thing?
Empathy is a bad thing?[/quote]
I think the word he was looking for was apathy.
[quote=“bball49er, post:80, topic:28610”][quote=“cptn319, post:8, topic:28610”]This.
Here’s the email I just sent to Rose and DuBois:
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[font=arial][size=13px]AD Rose and Chancellor DuBois–[/size][/font]
First off, thank you both for taking the time to read my email. I understand that both of you are incredibly busy with your obligations and I appreciate all that you do for the university.
I am a 1998 graduate of UNC Charlotte. I remember camping out several times for tickets to play rivals like Cincinnati and Memphis. I have attended games under Coaches Mullins, Watkins, Lutz, and Major. I live just outside of Atlanta, so I am not able to attend many home games. I do, however, make every effort to attend away basketball games when the Niners play in this area (KSU, GT, Mercer). I have followed the basketball program since I began my undergraduate studies in 1993.
I have to admit that the current direction of the basketball program is disheartening. I honestly am tired of hearing, “next year, next year.” I realize that lots of factors play into decision making (budgets, contracts, recruiting impacts, and availability of candidates). I know we have been paying Coaches Lutz and Major for the last several seasons. And, while no one wants the university to be in the same situation again, I must express my desire for a change.
Coach Major performed well in his AC position with OSU. However, I do not feel he has made any positive difference at UNC Charlotte – in fact, I think the direction of the basketball program has taken a turn for the worse since his arrival (not including the move to C-USA). With the player dismissals, transfers, attendance decline, and the complete collapse of last season (and this season so far) after such promising starts… I do not think Coach Major is our ‘solution’ to returning to the NCAA tournament.
I understand that Coach Major just received an extension after last season. But, he is just not performing well enough to retain his position, in my opinion. I trust that I am not the only Niner who feels this way. And, while I know my opinion may not carry any weight, I hope it will at least be taken into consideration.
As I write this, I am watching the Niners suffer an upset loss at home to a very bad Marshall team.
I wish I was in a financial position to donate a large sum of money to the university athletic department for the “Can Major Fund.” Unfortunately, I do not.
Please consider the long-term consequences of retaining Coach Major past the 2013-14 season. Will keeping him for another 1-2 years create such a benefit to the university to offset the damage already done?
Thank you for listening.[/quote]They stopped reading after Atlanta.[/quote]
I know I did.
Look, Alan Major should absolutely be fired and we should move on and at least attempt to improve as a basketball program. It sickens me to watch Odom and Oliver clearly care more than Major. However, we are wasting our time even discussing this. Firing him would be far too expensive right now, especially with the expense of football now. Most of us agree that it is time to move on, however, it simply is not gonna happen. End of discussion.
[quote=“bball49er, post:80, topic:28610”][quote=“cptn319, post:8, topic:28610”]This.
Here’s the email I just sent to Rose and DuBois:
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[font=arial][size=13px]AD Rose and Chancellor DuBois–[/size][/font]
First off, thank you both for taking the time to read my email. I understand that both of you are incredibly busy with your obligations and I appreciate all that you do for the university.
I am a 1998 graduate of UNC Charlotte. I remember camping out several times for tickets to play rivals like Cincinnati and Memphis. I have attended games under Coaches Mullins, Watkins, Lutz, and Major. I live just outside of Atlanta, so I am not able to attend many home games. I do, however, make every effort to attend away basketball games when the Niners play in this area (KSU, GT, Mercer). I have followed the basketball program since I began my undergraduate studies in 1993.
I have to admit that the current direction of the basketball program is disheartening. I honestly am tired of hearing, “next year, next year.” I realize that lots of factors play into decision making (budgets, contracts, recruiting impacts, and availability of candidates). I know we have been paying Coaches Lutz and Major for the last several seasons. And, while no one wants the university to be in the same situation again, I must express my desire for a change.
Coach Major performed well in his AC position with OSU. However, I do not feel he has made any positive difference at UNC Charlotte – in fact, I think the direction of the basketball program has taken a turn for the worse since his arrival (not including the move to C-USA). With the player dismissals, transfers, attendance decline, and the complete collapse of last season (and this season so far) after such promising starts… I do not think Coach Major is our ‘solution’ to returning to the NCAA tournament.
I understand that Coach Major just received an extension after last season. But, he is just not performing well enough to retain his position, in my opinion. I trust that I am not the only Niner who feels this way. And, while I know my opinion may not carry any weight, I hope it will at least be taken into consideration.
As I write this, I am watching the Niners suffer an upset loss at home to a very bad Marshall team.
I wish I was in a financial position to donate a large sum of money to the university athletic department for the “Can Major Fund.” Unfortunately, I do not.
Please consider the long-term consequences of retaining Coach Major past the 2013-14 season. Will keeping him for another 1-2 years create such a benefit to the university to offset the damage already done?
Thank you for listening.[/quote]They stopped reading after Atlanta.[/quote]
A few things here for those who would like to write Emails.
- I think its great that people are writing. Shows interest and that the fans care. Enough emails will force the issue front and center.
- Do not use (In my opinion), state it as a fact. For instance saying “The program is a disaster” is > “In my opinion the program is a disaster.” One is stated as a fact, the other is subjective to your point of view. Even thought both are your opinion one is much stronger than the other.
- Do not state you can not afford to give, even if true. Weakens your position. Just say that you don’t see the point of giving or statements to that effect. That way they do not know how much you give only that you do and they may lose X amount of dollars from you. People are naturally loss averse, so they will head that comment seriously. If they really want to find out what you give, if at all, make them do the leg work, don’t spoon feed them.
Go take a look at the contract. Basically we are on the hook for close 220 a year x 4 years. If he goes and gets another job it lowers that - so if you figure he could land another decent asst job, which i think he would, paying around 100k it means we owe him around 400K. That isn’t that bad and in the grand scheme they could be losing that much by bringing him back in lack of donations and ticket sales.
Keeping him is penny wise pound foolish…why i began the 900k thread
We pay our asst 120k, im sure he can land similar gig. So its 100k x 4 we gotta stroke.
We EASILY recoup those revenues with a change. But Im thinking like the business I manage, Our AD not quite to that level.
Bottom line- this is 100% ego driven now. Who can admit the mistake and move fwd.
He’ll land somewhere in a P5 conference. he’s a fantastic assistant. He’ll make close to the yearly buyout. I think the total buyout could be under a $100,000 when all totaled.
In that event it’s a no brainer.
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Brad Underwood. Probably pals with Lambert. Ksu guy, now Stephen f Austin HC.
26-2, year 1, 76 rpi. :o
Was also great juco HC. Majored in tv lol, so probably well spoken.
http://sfajacks.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brad_underwood_845080.html
There is a rumor going around that Beats By Dre contacted Shawn Lester to be the subject of their next commercial (ala Lebron/Kaepernick).
They are even changing the lyrics to “The Man”…
Well you can tell everybody
Yeah you can tell everybody
Go ahead and tell everybody
We suck again, suck again, suck again
Let me know when Coach Major has been canned
Leading scorer on the bench again
He’ll land somewhere in a P5 conference. he’s a fantastic assistant. He’ll make close to the yearly buyout. I think the total buyout could be under a $100,000 when all totaled.
In that event it’s a no brainer.
[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]hard to disagree with that, scary.[/font][/font][/quote]
Why would another program pay him the full amount? Wouldn’t they instead simply pay him whatever the normally pay minus what we are obligated to pay him? That way he would earn what the other assistants earn and that school would not have to pay it. Then rework his contract when the our money runs out, assuming he has earned it. Much cheaper. Its how I would do it as an AD.
[quote=“Card49, post:91, topic:28610”]Brad Underwood. Probably pals with Lambert. Ksu guy, now Stephen f Austin HC.
26-2, year 1, 76 rpi. :o
Was also great juco HC. Majored in tv lol, so probably well spoken.
http://sfajacks.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/brad_underwood_845080.html[/quote]
for the sake of argument he gets canned, would underwood have connections to recruiting in n.c., sfa cannot be paying this guy a lot so it might be affordable. if schools like gw and uri can go get head coaches from low major conferences, so can we. it is always scary to hire someone coming off of one year of sucess though. was it a fluke? does he have a bunch of upperclassmen or is he just a great coach?
Perhaps there is more talk among donors than we thought. Posted on my FB wall from a well known donor [size=2]"[font=helvetica]You have no idea of the level of support from the Chancellor or AD, because they aren’t publicly discussing the situation."[/font]
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LET MAJOR GO END OF SEASON … find the money and a coach worthy to represent such a quality university like Charlotte. Braxton, Henry, Clayton would be attractive pieces to a new coach.No coach with half a mind would blow that up and start over like MAJOR’S doomed to fail philosophy was.Those pieces alone will make an incoming coach competitive in CUSA the rest is on the metal of the coach.
Set the table for the new coach as she did for Major/Oliver. Hold releases on potential transfers until playing 1yr for the new coach like she did for MAJOR/Oliver. Make WINNING NOW a significant component in the contract conversation, like she did not do for MAJOR/Oliver.
Judy will lose much more than basketball games and money if she retains Major/Oliver past this season. She will lose whats left of her credibility as a conduit of success for CHARLOTTE UNIVERSITY.
[quote=“NinerWupAss, post:95, topic:28610”]Perhaps there is more talk among donors than we thought. Posted on my FB wall from a well known donor [size=2]"[font=helvetica]You have no idea of the level of support from the Chancellor or AD, because they aren’t publicly discussing the situation."[/font]
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The best thing that can happen is Alan decides being a head coach is not his thing. He and Judy could maybe even work together in searching for him a new AC position. They could cut a deal on some compensation if he agrees to leave. That is a perfect world but I am not expecting things to happen that way.
[quote=“NinerWupAss, post:95, topic:28610”]Perhaps there is more talk among donors than we thought. Posted on my FB wall from a well known donor [size=2]"[font=helvetica]You have no idea of the level of support from the Chancellor or AD, because they aren’t publicly discussing the situation."[/font]
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Support for firing or support for keeping?
He’ll land somewhere in a P5 conference. he’s a fantastic assistant. He’ll make close to the yearly buyout. I think the total buyout could be under a $100,000 when all totaled.
In that event it’s a no brainer.
hard to disagree with that, scary.[/font][/quote]
Why would another program pay him the full amount? Wouldn’t they instead simply pay him whatever the normally pay minus what we are obligated to pay him? That way he would earn what the other assistants earn and that school would not have to pay it. Then rework his contract when the our money runs out, assuming he has earned it. Much cheaper. Its how I would do it as an AD.[/quote]
You never know what will motivate someone, but Major has a good 20 years left in this industry. I cannot image him thinking he needed to bargain his way into a good assistant’s job somewhere. In 2010 his base salary at Ohio State was $153,000. I think you can count on him looking for a good spot where they value him at least that much. I think he will find it.
He’ll land somewhere in a P5 conference. he’s a fantastic assistant. He’ll make close to the yearly buyout. I think the total buyout could be under a $100,000 when all totaled.
In that event it’s a no brainer.
hard to disagree with that, scary.[/font][/quote]
Why would another program pay him the full amount? Wouldn’t they instead simply pay him whatever the normally pay minus what we are obligated to pay him? That way he would earn what the other assistants earn and that school would not have to pay it. Then rework his contract when the our money runs out, assuming he has earned it. Much cheaper. Its how I would do it as an AD.[/quote]
You never know what will motivate someone, but Major has a good 20 years left in this industry. I cannot image him thinking he needed to bargain his way into a good assistant’s job somewhere. In 2010 his base salary at Ohio State was $153,000. I think you can count on him looking for a good spot where they value him at least that much. I think he will find it.[/quote]
Agree 