Fire Alan Major

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[quote=“bballtazzmania, post:96, topic:28610”]LET MAJOR GO END OF SEASON … find the money and a coach worthy to represent such a quality university like Charlotte. Braxton, Henry, Clayton would be attractive pieces to a new coach.No coach with half a mind would blow that up and start over like MAJOR’S doomed to fail philosophy was.Those pieces alone will make an incoming coach competitive in CUSA the rest is on the metal of the coach.

Set the table for the new coach as she did for Major/Oliver. Hold releases on potential transfers until playing 1yr for the new coach like she did for MAJOR/Oliver. Make WINNING NOW a significant component in the contract conversation, like she did not do for MAJOR/Oliver.

Judy will lose much more than basketball games and money if she retains Major/Oliver past this season. She will lose whats left of her credibility as a conduit of success for CHARLOTTE UNIVERSITY.[/quote]Although I don’t really agree with much of anything you say, I do agree with this.

BTW, you never mention Odom in your rants. What is your take on him?

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[quote=“bball49er, post:80, topic:28610”][quote=“cptn319, post:8, topic:28610”]This.

Here’s the email I just sent to Rose and DuBois:
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[font=arial][size=13px]AD Rose and Chancellor DuBois–[/size][/font]

First off, thank you both for taking the time to read my email. I understand that both of you are incredibly busy with your obligations and I appreciate all that you do for the university.

I am a 1998 graduate of UNC Charlotte. I remember camping out several times for tickets to play rivals like Cincinnati and Memphis. I have attended games under Coaches Mullins, Watkins, Lutz, and Major. I live just outside of Atlanta, so I am not able to attend many home games. I do, however, make every effort to attend away basketball games when the Niners play in this area (KSU, GT, Mercer). I have followed the basketball program since I began my undergraduate studies in 1993.

I have to admit that the current direction of the basketball program is disheartening. I honestly am tired of hearing, “next year, next year.” I realize that lots of factors play into decision making (budgets, contracts, recruiting impacts, and availability of candidates). I know we have been paying Coaches Lutz and Major for the last several seasons. And, while no one wants the university to be in the same situation again, I must express my desire for a change.

Coach Major performed well in his AC position with OSU. However, I do not feel he has made any positive difference at UNC Charlotte – in fact, I think the direction of the basketball program has taken a turn for the worse since his arrival (not including the move to C-USA). With the player dismissals, transfers, attendance decline, and the complete collapse of last season (and this season so far) after such promising starts… I do not think Coach Major is our ‘solution’ to returning to the NCAA tournament.

I understand that Coach Major just received an extension after last season. But, he is just not performing well enough to retain his position, in my opinion. I trust that I am not the only Niner who feels this way. And, while I know my opinion may not carry any weight, I hope it will at least be taken into consideration.

As I write this, I am watching the Niners suffer an upset loss at home to a very bad Marshall team.

I wish I was in a financial position to donate a large sum of money to the university athletic department for the “Can Major Fund.” Unfortunately, I do not.

Please consider the long-term consequences of retaining Coach Major past the 2013-14 season. Will keeping him for another 1-2 years create such a benefit to the university to offset the damage already done?

Thank you for listening.[/quote]They stopped reading after Atlanta.[/quote]

Probably.

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This is the least toxic “Fire X” thread I’ve ever seen on this board. Chew on that a bit.

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[quote=“Niner National, post:101, topic:28610”][quote=“bballtazzmania, post:96, topic:28610”]LET MAJOR GO END OF SEASON … find the money and a coach worthy to represent such a quality university like Charlotte. Braxton, Henry, Clayton would be attractive pieces to a new coach.No coach with half a mind would blow that up and start over like MAJOR’S doomed to fail philosophy was.Those pieces alone will make an incoming coach competitive in CUSA the rest is on the metal of the coach.

Set the table for the new coach as she did for Major/Oliver. Hold releases on potential transfers until playing 1yr for the new coach like she did for MAJOR/Oliver. Make WINNING NOW a significant component in the contract conversation, like she did not do for MAJOR/Oliver.

Judy will lose much more than basketball games and money if she retains Major/Oliver past this season. She will lose whats left of her credibility as a conduit of success for CHARLOTTE UNIVERSITY.[/quote]Although I don’t really agree with much of anything you say, I do agree with this.

BTW, you never mention Odom in your rants. What is your take on him?[/quote]

Odom is the brains of the group. Odom is a smart guy with a bright future. However his hands are tied because he is light years ahead of MAJOR/OLIVER when it comes to what to do and how to do it. MAJOR is a bobblehead. Oliver is the dim witted, insecure, behind the scenes muscle that strong arms MAJOR’s decision making ,as well as, the disfunction/mismanagement of team relations and personnel. Vandross is just a gofer collecting a check.

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[quote=“cptn319, post:102, topic:28610”][quote=“bball49er, post:80, topic:28610”][quote=“cptn319, post:8, topic:28610”]This.

Here’s the email I just sent to Rose and DuBois:
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[font=arial]AD Rose and Chancellor DuBois–[/font]

First off, thank you both for taking the time to read my email. I understand that both of you are incredibly busy with your obligations and I appreciate all that you do for the university.

I am a 1998 graduate of UNC Charlotte. I remember camping out several times for tickets to play rivals like Cincinnati and Memphis. I have attended games under Coaches Mullins, Watkins, Lutz, and Major. I live just outside of Atlanta, so I am not able to attend many home games. I do, however, make every effort to attend away basketball games when the Niners play in this area (KSU, GT, Mercer). I have followed the basketball program since I began my undergraduate studies in 1993.

I have to admit that the current direction of the basketball program is disheartening. I honestly am tired of hearing, “next year, next year.” I realize that lots of factors play into decision making (budgets, contracts, recruiting impacts, and availability of candidates). I know we have been paying Coaches Lutz and Major for the last several seasons. And, while no one wants the university to be in the same situation again, I must express my desire for a change.

Coach Major performed well in his AC position with OSU. However, I do not feel he has made any positive difference at UNC Charlotte – in fact, I think the direction of the basketball program has taken a turn for the worse since his arrival (not including the move to C-USA). With the player dismissals, transfers, attendance decline, and the complete collapse of last season (and this season so far) after such promising starts… I do not think Coach Major is our ‘solution’ to returning to the NCAA tournament.

I understand that Coach Major just received an extension after last season. But, he is just not performing well enough to retain his position, in my opinion. I trust that I am not the only Niner who feels this way. And, while I know my opinion may not carry any weight, I hope it will at least be taken into consideration.

As I write this, I am watching the Niners suffer an upset loss at home to a very bad Marshall team.

I wish I was in a financial position to donate a large sum of money to the university athletic department for the “Can Major Fund.” Unfortunately, I do not.

Please consider the long-term consequences of retaining Coach Major past the 2013-14 season. Will keeping him for another 1-2 years create such a benefit to the university to offset the damage already done?

Thank you for listening.[/quote]They stopped reading after Atlanta.[/quote]

Probably.[/quote]

Actually, the highlighted is when they stopped reading…

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so i see alot of reason’s why to fire Major. Yet i have yet to read a solution. Who can we AFFORD to hire to turn the program around. I understand the frustration esp. after the puerto rico tip off and the expectations that occurred after that. I think that we need to afford him at least another 2 years to get his bearings. I think he has been in the process of learning the HC position and is now in the crucial moments of deciding whether he is the coach of the future or not. I know this as a biz owner. We have good recruits coming in, it would be a shame to waste em.

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[quote=“bballtazzmania, post:104, topic:28610”][quote=“Niner National, post:101, topic:28610”][quote=“bballtazzmania, post:96, topic:28610”]LET MAJOR GO END OF SEASON … find the money and a coach worthy to represent such a quality university like Charlotte. Braxton, Henry, Clayton would be attractive pieces to a new coach.No coach with half a mind would blow that up and start over like MAJOR’S doomed to fail philosophy was.Those pieces alone will make an incoming coach competitive in CUSA the rest is on the metal of the coach.

Set the table for the new coach as she did for Major/Oliver. Hold releases on potential transfers until playing 1yr for the new coach like she did for MAJOR/Oliver. Make WINNING NOW a significant component in the contract conversation, like she did not do for MAJOR/Oliver.

Judy will lose much more than basketball games and money if she retains Major/Oliver past this season. She will lose whats left of her credibility as a conduit of success for CHARLOTTE UNIVERSITY.[/quote]Although I don’t really agree with much of anything you say, I do agree with this.

BTW, you never mention Odom in your rants. What is your take on him?[/quote]

Odom is the brains of the group. Odom is a smart guy with a bright future. However his hands are tied because he is light years ahead of MAJOR/OLIVER when it comes to what to do and how to do it. MAJOR is a bobblehead. Oliver is the dim witted, insecure, behind the scenes muscle that strong arms MAJOR’s decision making ,as well as, the disfunction/mismanagement of team relations and personnel. Vandross is just a gofer collecting a check.[/quote]

how do you know any of this?

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[quote=“ninerfan55, post:107, topic:28610”][quote=“bballtazzmania, post:104, topic:28610”][quote=“Niner National, post:101, topic:28610”][quote=“bballtazzmania, post:96, topic:28610”]LET MAJOR GO END OF SEASON … find the money and a coach worthy to represent such a quality university like Charlotte. Braxton, Henry, Clayton would be attractive pieces to a new coach.No coach with half a mind would blow that up and start over like MAJOR’S doomed to fail philosophy was.Those pieces alone will make an incoming coach competitive in CUSA the rest is on the metal of the coach.

Set the table for the new coach as she did for Major/Oliver. Hold releases on potential transfers until playing 1yr for the new coach like she did for MAJOR/Oliver. Make WINNING NOW a significant component in the contract conversation, like she did not do for MAJOR/Oliver.

Judy will lose much more than basketball games and money if she retains Major/Oliver past this season. She will lose whats left of her credibility as a conduit of success for CHARLOTTE UNIVERSITY.[/quote]Although I don’t really agree with much of anything you say, I do agree with this.

BTW, you never mention Odom in your rants. What is your take on him?[/quote]

Odom is the brains of the group. Odom is a smart guy with a bright future. However his hands are tied because he is light years ahead of MAJOR/OLIVER when it comes to what to do and how to do it. MAJOR is a bobblehead. Oliver is the dim witted, insecure, behind the scenes muscle that strong arms MAJOR’s decision making ,as well as, the disfunction/mismanagement of team relations and personnel. Vandross is just a gofer collecting a check.[/quote]

how do you know any of this?[/quote]

Well last night Odom was effectively the HC - he was the one in the head mans chair, he was he one motioning to the guys

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Good point

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Good point[/quote]

He’s not an alum and hasn’t been here long. No real personal connections.

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Discouraged and disgusted ! Thank God we brought in a coach that was gonna take us to the Dance annually ! I don’t think I had this hard a time watching when Wissel was decaying the program.

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[quote=“Florida49er2009, post:106, topic:28610”]so i see alot of reason’s why to fire Major. Yet i have yet to read a solution. Who can we AFFORD to hire to turn the program around. I understand the frustration esp. after the puerto rico tip off and the expectations that occurred after that. I think that we need to afford him at least another 2 years to get his bearings. I think he has been in the process of learning the HC position and is now in the crucial moments of deciding whether he is the coach of the future or not. I know this as a biz owner. We have good recruits coming in, it would be a shame to waste em.[/quote]Major’s contract is written differently than Bobby’s was. When he was let go, we had to pay full amount unless he became a HC elsewhere. With Major, if he takes any job it’s salary is subtracted out and we pay the remainder. Far better situation in that regard.

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[quote=“NinerWupAss, post:108, topic:28610”][quote=“ninerfan55, post:107, topic:28610”][quote=“bballtazzmania, post:104, topic:28610”][quote=“Niner National, post:101, topic:28610”][quote=“bballtazzmania, post:96, topic:28610”]LET MAJOR GO END OF SEASON … find the money and a coach worthy to represent such a quality university like Charlotte. Braxton, Henry, Clayton would be attractive pieces to a new coach.No coach with half a mind would blow that up and start over like MAJOR’S doomed to fail philosophy was.Those pieces alone will make an incoming coach competitive in CUSA the rest is on the metal of the coach.

Set the table for the new coach as she did for Major/Oliver. Hold releases on potential transfers until playing 1yr for the new coach like she did for MAJOR/Oliver. Make WINNING NOW a significant component in the contract conversation, like she did not do for MAJOR/Oliver.

Judy will lose much more than basketball games and money if she retains Major/Oliver past this season. She will lose whats left of her credibility as a conduit of success for CHARLOTTE UNIVERSITY.[/quote]Although I don’t really agree with much of anything you say, I do agree with this.

BTW, you never mention Odom in your rants. What is your take on him?[/quote]

Odom is the brains of the group. Odom is a smart guy with a bright future. However his hands are tied because he is light years ahead of MAJOR/OLIVER when it comes to what to do and how to do it. MAJOR is a bobblehead. Oliver is the dim witted, insecure, behind the scenes muscle that strong arms MAJOR’s decision making ,as well as, the disfunction/mismanagement of team relations and personnel. Vandross is just a gofer collecting a check.[/quote]

how do you know any of this?[/quote]

Well last night Odom was effectively the HC - he was the one in the head mans chair, he was he one motioning to the guys[/quote]

I wouldn’t want last night on my resume as a head coach. I doubt he does either.

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Hmmm, I wonder, where does that money come from?

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[quote=“Iron9er, post:113, topic:28610”][quote=“NinerWupAss, post:108, topic:28610”][quote=“ninerfan55, post:107, topic:28610”][quote=“bballtazzmania, post:104, topic:28610”][quote=“Niner National, post:101, topic:28610”][quote=“bballtazzmania, post:96, topic:28610”]LET MAJOR GO END OF SEASON … find the money and a coach worthy to represent such a quality university like Charlotte. Braxton, Henry, Clayton would be attractive pieces to a new coach.No coach with half a mind would blow that up and start over like MAJOR’S doomed to fail philosophy was.Those pieces alone will make an incoming coach competitive in CUSA the rest is on the metal of the coach.

Set the table for the new coach as she did for Major/Oliver. Hold releases on potential transfers until playing 1yr for the new coach like she did for MAJOR/Oliver. Make WINNING NOW a significant component in the contract conversation, like she did not do for MAJOR/Oliver.

Judy will lose much more than basketball games and money if she retains Major/Oliver past this season. She will lose whats left of her credibility as a conduit of success for CHARLOTTE UNIVERSITY.[/quote]Although I don’t really agree with much of anything you say, I do agree with this.

BTW, you never mention Odom in your rants. What is your take on him?[/quote]

Odom is the brains of the group. Odom is a smart guy with a bright future. However his hands are tied because he is light years ahead of MAJOR/OLIVER when it comes to what to do and how to do it. MAJOR is a bobblehead. Oliver is the dim witted, insecure, behind the scenes muscle that strong arms MAJOR’s decision making ,as well as, the disfunction/mismanagement of team relations and personnel. Vandross is just a gofer collecting a check.[/quote]

how do you know any of this?[/quote]

Well last night Odom was effectively the HC - he was the one in the head mans chair, he was he one motioning to the guys[/quote]

I wouldn’t want last night on my resume as a head coach. I doubt he does either.[/quote]

Agree 100% - was very odd

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Hmmm, I wonder, where does that money come from?[/quote]
We are going to eventually have to pay our football coaches like FBS football coaches. I think this will play a big factor in Major’s future.

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Got a couple of things to say…First is,having read every post on this thread,even the few offtopics,I really have a lot of respect for our passionate fans.Many,if not most,have come to the conclusion that we need at LEAST a new head coach,painfully,over time,with patience,and with sadness more than anything else,as I read it.
It’s not a bunch of looneys who are pissed off about a lousy loss,it’s about UNFULFILLED PROMISES,and a once fairly proud program that has basically become somewhere between a laughingstock and irrelevant.

The fans aren’t coming,the coaching strategy(?) isn’t changing for the better…there is ZERO passion!I’ve felt for at least a year now that Major was not the guy to bring us to respectability,but understand how others took their own route.Honestly,I cannot understand the poster up a few who thinks we should give Major 2 more years,but that notwithstanding…i’ll repeat what to me is the crux of everything…staying pat,not finding a way to bring in “the right guy”…whoever the hell that is,is going to,in my opinion,cost us a LOT more in the long run than making a change at the end of the season.
I don’t pretend to know the finances of what each person would want,I don’t…but watching this program nosedive is like watching the life being sucked out of your body…or the body of this school,drip by drip.

I compliment each person who’s voiced their viewpoint on this thread,even those I radically disagree with…maybe it’s “misery loves company”,but at least you care…that beats the alternative.

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[quote=“lucky57, post:117, topic:28610”]Got a couple of things to say…First is,having read every post on this thread,even the few offtopics,I really have a lot of respect for our passionate fans.Many,if not most,have come to the conclusion that we need at LEAST a new head coach,painfully,over time,with patience,and with sadness more than anything else,as I read it.
It’s not a bunch of looneys who are pissed off about a lousy loss,it’s about UNFULFILLED PROMISES,and a once fairly proud program that has basically become somewhere between a laughingstock and irrelevant.

The fans aren’t coming,the coaching strategy(?) isn’t changing for the better…there is ZERO passion!I’ve felt for at least a year now that Major was not the guy to bring us to respectability,but understand how others took their own route.Honestly,I cannot understand the poster up a few who thinks we should give Major 2 more years,but that notwithstanding…i’ll repeat what to me is the crux of everything…staying pat,not finding a way to bring in “the right guy”…whoever the hell that is,is going to,in my opinion,cost us a LOT more in the long run than making a change at the end of the season.
I don’t pretend to know the finances of what each person would want,I don’t…but watching this program nosedive is like watching the life being sucked out of your body…or the body of this school,drip by drip.

I compliment each person who’s voiced their viewpoint on this thread,even those I radically disagree with…maybe it’s “misery loves company”,but at least you care…that beats the alternative.[/quote]

One of the best posts on NNN in years…

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If we did make a change not many of our players would be in a great position to leave. Braxton, Sullivan, Thorne, and Lester have each used their extra year. Henry and Twill would each be seniors. Clayton would be an upperclassman, I don’t know if he would want to sit out one year to play two. We would have to worry about Dorn and Woods, but hopefully each could still be sold on staying close to him regardless of our coaching staff.

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[quote=“NinerWupAss, post:118, topic:28610”][quote=“lucky57, post:117, topic:28610”]Got a couple of things to say…First is,having read every post on this thread,even the few offtopics,I really have a lot of respect for our passionate fans.Many,if not most,have come to the conclusion that we need at LEAST a new head coach,painfully,over time,with patience,and with sadness more than anything else,as I read it.
It’s not a bunch of looneys who are pissed off about a lousy loss,it’s about UNFULFILLED PROMISES,and a once fairly proud program that has basically become somewhere between a laughingstock and irrelevant.

The fans aren’t coming,the coaching strategy(?) isn’t changing for the better…there is ZERO passion!I’ve felt for at least a year now that Major was not the guy to bring us to respectability,but understand how others took their own route.Honestly,I cannot understand the poster up a few who thinks we should give Major 2 more years,but that notwithstanding…i’ll repeat what to me is the crux of everything…staying pat,not finding a way to bring in “the right guy”…whoever the hell that is,is going to,in my opinion,cost us a LOT more in the long run than making a change at the end of the season.
I don’t pretend to know the finances of what each person would want,I don’t…but watching this program nosedive is like watching the life being sucked out of your body…or the body of this school,drip by drip.

I compliment each person who’s voiced their viewpoint on this thread,even those I radically disagree with…maybe it’s “misery loves company”,but at least you care…that beats the alternative.[/quote]

One of the best posts on NNN in years…[/quote]

AGREE !