If we were to build suites you would think the people that were going to sit in them would put money down or pay some sort of licensing agreement for the suites to be built.
clt says we need two slides
So at 93% capacity (I know that actual butts in the seats may be a little less) I would say that we maybe aim for 25-27500k⌠ODU is 100% at 20k⌠based off that list weâd be able do pretty well if we can avg in the 25-27k range and keep the option of bringing in non perm bleachers for âbigâ games to go behind the top of the bowl could easily get several 100âs if not a few k with 3 row SRO bleachers behind the top
The plans call for an addition of 7500 upper deck on each side. I have always heard that we will build one at a time so we can increase as we grow. That would put us at 22,500 total which is starting to be a stadium. I know there is talk of putting the first upper deck on the alumni side and add some suites on the student side which could add another few seats and pull in more money.
[quote=âwoodniner, post:405, topic:30091â]The plans call for an addition of 7500 upper deck on each side. I have always heard that we will build one at a time so we can increase as we grow. That would put us at 22,500 total which is starting to be a stadium. I know there is talk of putting the first upper deck on the alumni side and add some suites on the student side which could add another few seats and pull in more money.[/quote]interesting. Personally Iâd rather see them just do suites on student t side and 5000 seats on each side so itâs symmetrical, but Iâd be happy with the plans you describe as well
If the demand is there down the road, then they will come back and put the upper deck on the student section over the suites. The initial plans have the option of adding another 10k to the endzone to capacity to 40k, but that would be way down the road. They do not want to block the view of the new engineering building. The original plans are great and the prework was done as the stadium was being built so any expansion would not take long, but I think it is time to start at least one of the projects so we act like we belong in big-time football.
I understand the reasoning maybe of building one deck at a time, but my selfish fear is that if attendance is mediocre after the expansion of one deck, that we wonât expand the student side and get stuck with an asymmetrical stadium. Iâd prefer to just build both and answer questions later lol. But I canât think of too many asymmetrical stadiums off the bat, but the James Madison one. It actually looks pretty big time and is asymmetrical and is right around the 24-25k. I also may be alone on this but sometimes I think the design of the stadium bowl being below ground level, hinders the look (size wise), than traditional stadiums where the the lower bowl is still elevated from ground level. Either way, I think any expansion will be good and I look forward to hearing some plans soon!
Does someone have inside information about an announcement or is this just wishful thinking?
Cloudy and cold today with a high of 39 degrees.
clt says no one has information.
Under current âleadershipâ and current AD and Univ. at wide marketing âeffortsâ, expanding the stadium would be the dumbest thing imaginable. We canât even get within 1500 seats (on average) of selling out 6 home games in years 3 and 4 of existence. Whatâs the point of adding more seats just for the sake of doing it when we know that the school and the AD wonât make any effort to actually sell those seats and will just give excuses as to why people arenât going?
There is none.
[quote=âSteauA, post:412, topic:30091â]Under current âleadershipâ and current AD and Univ. at wide marketing âeffortsâ, expanding the stadium would be the dumbest thing imaginable. We canât even get within 1500 seats (on average) of selling out 6 home games in years 3 and 4 of existence. Whatâs the point of adding more seats just for the sake of doing it when we know that the school and the AD wonât make any effort to actually sell those seats and will just give excuses as to why people arenât going?
There is none.[/quote]
IF and its a big IF, the current AD would expand the stadium the influx of marquee teams playing, as shown by the ones we have signed, are worth the investment. To build our brand we have to host these bigger names.
[quote=âNinerWupAss, post:413, topic:30091â][quote=âSteauA, post:412, topic:30091â]Under current âleadershipâ and current AD and Univ. at wide marketing âeffortsâ, expanding the stadium would be the dumbest thing imaginable. We canât even get within 1500 seats (on average) of selling out 6 home games in years 3 and 4 of existence. Whatâs the point of adding more seats just for the sake of doing it when we know that the school and the AD wonât make any effort to actually sell those seats and will just give excuses as to why people arenât going?
There is none.[/quote]
IF and its a big IF, the current AD would expand the stadium the influx of marquee teams playing, as shown by the ones we have signed, are worth the investment. To build our brand we have to host these bigger names.[/quote]
With all due respect, I disagree. To build our brand, we need an AD that cares/tries.
What big names have ODU played that has resulted in their fan engagement/attendance success? I remember they played NC State at home once, outside of that itâs your marginal FBS programs like Eastern Michigan or UMass plus the C-USA crapalooza. They sell out 20,000 and have a waiting list for season tickets. We canât sell out 15k more than once a year. That has very little to do with our opponents and 99.99% to do with our leadership.
Somebody wanna FOIA the contracts and see if thereâs an expansion provision? :D[/quote]We have done a basic FOIA for anything discussing expansion.
Have to pay for a more thorough search I believe.[/quote]
Was just thinking that the AD could argue that an âattendance requirementâ in a contract doesnât necessarily imply that itâs related to an expansion of the Rich. They could play at BOFA, for example, to meet that requirement. So any attendance requirement in the contracts for more than 16k people might not have been disclosed.
The stadium will be expanded.
Agree, in that it will be expanded.
I am not a big fan of offering to play at BOA. Spectrum center is one thing for basketball, but until we have an establish team/fan support, I do not want to play at BOA bc I a few thousand empty seats for basketball is a lot different than 50k empty. Plus that has been our biggest problem, creating a demand. Big games will create a much needed demand for tickets if those games are played on home turf. Seeing the excitement of big games in our expanded stadium imo would create more alma mater pride as well.
Agree, in that it will be expanded.
I am not a big fan of offering to play at BOA. Spectrum center is one thing for basketball, but until we have an establish team/fan support, I do not want to play at BOA bc I a few thousand empty seats for basketball is a lot different than 50k empty. Plus that has been our biggest problem, creating a demand. Big games will create a much needed demand for tickets if those games are played on home turf. Seeing the excitement of big games in our expanded stadium imo would create more alma mater pride as well.[/quote]
I hope we never play at BOA unless it is in the Belk Bowl.
[quote=âSteauA, post:414, topic:30091â][quote=âNinerWupAss, post:413, topic:30091â][quote=âSteauA, post:412, topic:30091â]Under current âleadershipâ and current AD and Univ. at wide marketing âeffortsâ, expanding the stadium would be the dumbest thing imaginable. We canât even get within 1500 seats (on average) of selling out 6 home games in years 3 and 4 of existence. Whatâs the point of adding more seats just for the sake of doing it when we know that the school and the AD wonât make any effort to actually sell those seats and will just give excuses as to why people arenât going?
There is none.[/quote]
IF and its a big IF, the current AD would expand the stadium the influx of marquee teams playing, as shown by the ones we have signed, are worth the investment. To build our brand we have to host these bigger names.[/quote]
With all due respect, I disagree. To build our brand, we need an AD that cares/tries.
What big names have ODU played that has resulted in their fan engagement/attendance success? I remember they played NC State at home once, outside of that itâs your marginal FBS programs like Eastern Michigan or UMass plus the C-USA crapalooza. They sell out 20,000 and have a waiting list for season tickets. We canât sell out 15k more than once a year. That has very little to do with our opponents and 99.99% to do with our leadership.[/quote]
No argument from me on replacing AD.
I am just looking for ways for us to continue growing the brand with current AD.
We need to stop comparing ourselves to ODU. They had a HUGE advantage of having a stadium on campus. It made their launch much cheaper for their fans.
Just about all our challenges can be traced to our AD. Which means if we make positive steps it is our coaches doing it. A 15k stadium is going to cuff the hands of our coaches in signing OOC teams and recruiting. As App has shown it only takes one big win to turn a program around and we canât sacrifice those opportunities because we are afraid of having 13k in a 25k stadium.
clt says letâs have a design contest for the stadium expansion.