Football facilities and expansion

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[quote=“NinerAdvocate, post:540, topic:30091”][quote=“4ever niner, post:537, topic:30091”]Dubois might think that a stadium with two levels would look out of proportion to the surroundings. You know, sort of like a tower might.

BTW, this is not a flippant comment. I really think there is chance the dude may think this way. SAD.[/quote]

There’s nothing flippant about it. This very point made it into an Observer story during, IIRC, our first season (something about ruining the beautiful sightlines). Though it was the Observer writer who said it (may have even been Sorenson), it would not at all surprise me to learn that Dubois feels that way and even suggested it.

I also do not think either Phil or Judy want to deal with expansion. They don’t want to market the games; why would they want to tackle something much harder? We’re gonna need another generous benefactor and/or a new AD for it to happen.

And yes, the App game is gonna be a mess. We have no business playing them in a 15k stadium. Our fans are gonna be left wanting tickets too.[/quote]

Willing to bet App finds a way to outnumber us in our own stadium. I have zero faith in anything the AD does at this point.

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#542

It will for sure be an App home field advantage if the AD doesn’t convince Niner fans that it will be a SRO crowd on game day

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#543

No, it won’t. Unless we do add several 1000 more seats and they all go to App fans. They will almost certainly have more fans there than we would like, but they will not be close to outnumbering our fans inthe current stadium. Remember FSL and student tickets cover more than 50% of the stadium already.

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#544

[quote=“BigTymers99, post:541, topic:30091”][quote=“NinerAdvocate, post:540, topic:30091”][quote=“4ever niner, post:537, topic:30091”]Dubois might think that a stadium with two levels would look out of proportion to the surroundings. You know, sort of like a tower might.

BTW, this is not a flippant comment. I really think there is chance the dude may think this way. SAD.[/quote]

There’s nothing flippant about it. This very point made it into an Observer story during, IIRC, our first season (something about ruining the beautiful sightlines). Though it was the Observer writer who said it (may have even been Sorenson), it would not at all surprise me to learn that Dubois feels that way and even suggested it.

I also do not think either Phil or Judy want to deal with expansion. They don’t want to market the games; why would they want to tackle something much harder? We’re gonna need another generous benefactor and/or a new AD for it to happen.

And yes, the App game is gonna be a mess. We have no business playing them in a 15k stadium. Our fans are gonna be left wanting tickets too.[/quote]

Willing to bet App finds a way to outnumber us in our own stadium. I have zero faith in anything the AD does at this point.[/quote]

Don’t think so. See above post.

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#545

Hate it or not, agree or not, expansion here will be tied to attendance/“need”. So we need to win.[/quote]

Dubois told me we need to fill the stadium to justify it, and even then expansion won’t come without another Jerry Richardson level gift.

School really discounts the demand to sit between the 20s. Paying full price to sit in a corner or end zone is why I scalp, and why I don’t attend games that I can’t scalp. I prefer to sit higher up as it is. A deck would ensure I buy 4 season tickets every year.[/quote]

I know Dubois did say this, but it is very flawed thinking. How many schools pack out their stadiums EVERY week? Answer, very few <5% I bet). You build your stadium to hold the largest capacity that you can reasonably expect. For us right now, that would be building for the Duke, App and Chapel Hill games currently on the schedule.

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#546

[quote=“BigTymers99, post:531, topic:30091”][quote=“FSL Owner, post:530, topic:30091”][quote=“Niner National, post:529, topic:30091”]By 2018, coastal and liberty will both play in bigger stadiums than ours.

Let that sink in for a while.[/quote]

Liberty’s is already bigger than ours (19K). They are just expanding again because their AD knows 19K is not big enough.
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An AD with a vision and a plan, must be nice. Maybe we’ll have nice things one day, like wins in relevant sports.[/quote]

Liberty operates in a different world. They’ve got virtually unlimited funds and a president that has given his AD a mandate to turn Liberty into the Evangelical version of Notre Dame or BYU.

They may have lofty ambitions and seemingly limitless resources to chase them, but at least we got laid in college.

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#547

Liberty is a different animal, but we should at a minimum be on par with these two. It was at least addressed in Judy’s last letter, that’s better than the deafening silence we have had.

Coastal expanding to 21k for the 2018 season.

Georgia State’s Ted Renovation

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#548

We should be on par at minimum with ODU, CCU, and GSU.

But stadium design matters too. As nice as that GSU stadium is gonna be, it’s gonna look like JMU from the default broadcast position, with that small stand of bleachers in the former right field (they are tearing out the original ones behind them). That is again an example of terrible optics, and I really think GSU didn’t think that through. It’s of course easier to put your cameras and broadcast booth atop The higher side bleachers, but it looks incredibly small time to aim the cameras at 4k-5k bleachers. Results in the production team using tight shots to not make the stadium look tiny.

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#549

The one thing I am confident in is a Charlotte crowd to show up for a “event” game. This is one.

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#550

Here’s a shot of the other side. I will like our set-up better once it’s expanded, sometimes I do think we as a fan base forget how nice our stadium is compared to many of peers. There just needs to be more of it.

We have games upcoming with App, Duke, UNC, and Maryland. Those event games will be coming every other year even if a rivalry doesn’t develop with the conference. I hope we’re ready to exploit these opportunities. We are at least talking about it publicly, that’s a start.

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#551

So glad we are SEC bound.

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#553

FSL holders get the first option to buy single game tickets… there will most certainly be tax on the secondhand market for those tickets

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#554

FSL holders get the first option to buy single game tickets… there will most certainly be tax on the secondhand market for those tickets[/quote]

That is a great point. I think I will buy a handful of them.

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#555

I don’t know how many tickets App will have, but if they need a place to park their football transport I think the space next to me is available. Small time!

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#556

clt isn’t concerned about appy. We do need to announce a plan for expansion tho

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#557

FSL holders get the first option to buy single game tickets… there will most certainly be tax on the secondhand market for those tickets[/quote]

That is a great point. I think I will buy a handful of them.[/quote]

I might even set up tents in my back yard for them to Airbnb, I welcome all traveling teams $. Could pay for my whole year of season tickets with 1 game.

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#558

FSL holders get the first option to buy single game tickets… there will most certainly be tax on the secondhand market for those tickets[/quote]

That is a great point. I think I will buy a handful of them.[/quote]

I might even set up tents in my back yard for them to Airbnb, I welcome all traveling teams $. Could pay for my whole year of season tickets with 1 game.[/quote]
They’d probably welcome that, not being used to electricity and running water.

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#559

FSL holders get the first option to buy single game tickets… there will most certainly be tax on the secondhand market for those tickets[/quote]

That is a great point. I think I will buy a handful of them.[/quote]

I might even set up tents in my back yard for them to Airbnb, I welcome all traveling teams $. Could pay for my whole year of season tickets with 1 game.[/quote]
They’d probably welcome that, not being used to electricity and running water.[/quote] Yea, but they’d want to pay with goats and chickens.

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#560

FSL holders get the first option to buy single game tickets… there will most certainly be tax on the secondhand market for those tickets[/quote]

That is a great point. I think I will buy a handful of them.[/quote]

I might even set up tents in my back yard for them to Airbnb, I welcome all traveling teams $. Could pay for my whole year of season tickets with 1 game.[/quote]
They’d probably welcome that, not being used to electricity and running water.[/quote] Yea, but they’d want to pay with goats and chickens.[/quote]

True. But they claim their goats and chickens are much smarter than the average goat and chicken.

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