greatest heavy metal bands of all-time

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You brought up Soulja Boy first, not me. Soulja Boy is terrible, "eenie, meanie, minie, MO!" was an awful affront to the human ear and affirmed to many people rap had lost all legitimacy it might have had; the guy should rot in hell.

Isn’t that better than talking about shooting guns and slinging yay? Of course it’s not nearly as artistic, but it’s also not as perverse. I mean, I know he is talking about “superman that ho” so it is still degrading to women, but at least it doesn’t encourage violence.

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[QUOTE=49timesthelovin;407973]Isn’t that better than talking about shooting guns and slinging yay? Of course it’s not nearly as artistic, but it’s also not as perverse. I mean, I know he is talking about “superman that ho” so it is still degrading to women, but at least it doesn’t encourage violence.[/QUOTE]

I think you shoudl both punch yourselves in the junk. You both know way too much about Solja Boy…

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I think you shoudl both punch yourselves in the junk. You both know way too much about Solja Boy...

I have younger siblings who listen to terrible music when I am in the room. I also go to the gym.

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They are an art rock band. Billy Corgan listened to some shoegaze records like My Bloody Valentine and started making melodic music awash in a wall of noise. I loved SP back in the early to mid 90s, but Corgan is another in a long line of musicians that owe their careers to someone else (Ryan Adams comes to mind). And yeah, art rock, the good kind (Most of Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream, and Gish), and the bad kind (most of everything after that). Corgan was so obsessed with trying to be a harbinger (his word), that he was constantly trying to revise the sound to the next trend (techno at that time), rather than concnetrating on putting out kickass records. I’ll get my but kicked for saying it, but Radiohead has done the same thing.

[quote]I think the purists are suspicious of successful bands because you usually need corporate backing to sell those kinds of numbers. Corporations tend to stick to “safe” music, i.e. it is almost guaranteed to sell (or at least it’s possible through payola). The purists I think take this as a sign that the band is no longer edgy enough to be too dangerous for corporate execs, and there likely is pressure from execs to alter songs to sell to a mass audience in some cases.

Also, people identify themselves so much by the music they listen to, that those folks who strive to be unique get pissed when their music gains mass appeal, because it suggests they are not so unique after all.[/QUOTE]

Mostly true, except that the first part really does happen. Bands do dumb down their music for mass consumption, under label pressure. And the longtime fans can pickup on it instantly. It’s a jump the shark moment.

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Isn't that better than talking about shooting guns and slinging yay? Of course it's not nearly as artistic, but it's also not as perverse. I mean, I know he is talking about "superman that ho" so it is still degrading to women, but at least it doesn't encourage violence.

You need to take a trip to www.urbandictionary.com and look up exactly what “superman that ho” means. I can’t do it here at work.

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[QUOTE=49timesthelovin;407971]Grunge was basically what emo is today, but a whole lot cooler. It’s all a form of counterculture. In the 60s it was hippies.

And by the way I started a grunge thread a couple months ago. Although I think I just said early to mid-nineties rock as the thread title. But you know
what I was referring to.[/QUOTE]

It depends on what you mean by emo. That is a genre with a bad rap because the media jumped on board and started naming anything that had any sort of emotional connotation emo. That’s not really what the genre was. Of course, a lot of that has to do with the mid-west explosion (GUK, JEW) that got labeled emo and the New York/New Jersey scene that was very radio friendly didn’t help the cause. So, of course, that has become the media portrayed and mass market accepted version of a pretty righteous genre.

Jawbreaker and Leatherface are two of my favorite bands. And Leatherface sounds like a chainsaw ripping your face off. Jawbreaker is a little easier to listen to, their last effort (on Geffen) was pretty poppy. Of course, Jawbreaker is probably the band most responsible for all the crap that is called emo now (from Dashboard to Fallout Boy to Saves the Day). Weezer and Sunny Day Real Estate are the other two main culprits. But Moss Icon, Jawbreaker, Rites of Spring, Indian Summer, and Leatherface are just a few bands that rock so hard.

Here is one of the most accessible Leatherface songs: http://queef.net/minx/06%20Heaven%20Sent%20-%20Minx%20test%20press.mp3

It is just ridiculous when bands like Panic at the Disco and My Chemical Romance get classified as emo. So much generic, radio ready pop punk gets the emo tag.

[QUOTE=NinerAdvocate;407986]They are an art rock band. Billy Corgan listened to some shoegaze records like My Bloody Valentine and started making melodic music awash in a wall of noise. I loved SP back in the early to mid 90s, but Corgan is another in a long line of musicians that owe their careers to someone else (Ryan Adams comes to mind). And yeah, art rock, the good kind (Most of Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream, and Gish), and the bad kind (most of everything after that). Corgan was so obsessed with trying to be a harbinger (his word), that he was constantly trying to revise the sound to the next trend (techno at that time), rather than concnetrating on putting out kickass records. I’ll get my but kicked for saying it, but Radiohead has done the same thing.
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Radiohead has gotten progressively worse since OK computer.

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Radiohead has gotten progressively worse since OK computer.

Another interesting tangent there. I agree on Radiohead. But don’t you think just about every band has a difficult time recapturing the original sound that made them popular? It seems just about everybody progressively gets worse.

When I was in college the Black Crowes blew my mind. Finally a modern group that was able to somewhat capture the Lynyrd Skynyrd or Allman Brothers sound. Couldn’t wait for them to have a new album that I loved as much Shake Your Money Maker. I’m still waiting.

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[QUOTE=Normmm;408025]Another interesting tangent there. I agree on Radiohead. But don’t you think just about every band has a difficult time recapturing the original sound that made them popular? It seems just about everybody progressively gets worse.

When I was in college the Black Crowes blew my mind. Finally a modern group that was able to somewhat capture the Lynyrd Skynyrd or Allman Brothers sound. Couldn’t wait for them to have a new album that I loved as much Shake Your Money Maker. I’m still waiting.[/QUOTE]

Agreed on this being in interesting tangent… Looking big picture at all of the bands I like, by in large my favorite albums are normally their 1st albums.

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You need to take a trip to [URL=http://www.urbandictionary.com]www.urbandictionary.com[/URL] and look up exactly what "superman that ho" means. I can't do it here at work.

I know exactly what it means. Like I said, it’s still degrading to women, but it’s not as obvious.

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Anybody here fans of Joe Satriani or Steve Vai? Some of their stuff isn’t metal but a lot of it could probably be classified that way. I happened to catch the G3 tour when it rolled through a few years ago. Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, and Yngwie Malmsteen all played though I’m not that big a fan of the latter.

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Why no props for Jethro Tull? After all they did beat Metallica for the first hard rock/heavy metal grammy!!

I’m no fan of Tull but if the Charlie Daniel’s Band and Poison are mentioned in this thread then why not.

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[QUOTE=Normmm;408025]Another interesting tangent there. I agree on Radiohead. But don’t you think just about every band has a difficult time recapturing the original sound that made them popular? It seems just about everybody progressively gets worse.

When I was in college the Black Crowes blew my mind. Finally a modern group that was able to somewhat capture the Lynyrd Skynyrd or Allman Brothers sound. Couldn’t wait for them to have a new album that I loved as much Shake Your Money Maker. I’m still waiting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=s9er;408032]Agreed on this being in interesting tangent… Looking big picture at all of the bands I like, by in large my favorite albums are normally their 1st albums.[/QUOTE]

Like I said earlier, bands generally lose their edge when the get successful because they don’t have anything driving them anymore. But the really great bands don’t get affected by that.

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I know exactly what it means. Like I said, it's still degrading to women, but it's not as obvious.

Why b/c general white america doesn’t get it?

On a side note, if you could actually could pull it off, I’d like to shake the guy’s hand, after he washes them of course.