We win the series and no one says a thing about this guy…odd how that works out. He isn’t the reason this team didn’t show up in games 1 and 7.
Purple shirt guy was annoying Grandma & I. Grandma wanted him to sit down. He was in the way of the TV, & everyone in the stadium.
An obnoxious guy wearing a purple shirt and ragging on Dwayne Wade. Could this be StillJonesing? :o
Purple Shirt Guy = Uh Huh Guy
They are both terrible.
Win or lose the guy is clearly the biggest toolbox in the Charlotte metro area.
Win or lose the guy is clearly the biggest toolbox in the Charlotte metro area.[/quote]
He’s from Greensboro.
I agree with NWA btw, he is definitely the Hornets equivalent of Uh-Huh. The guy got in a shouting match with Kevin Durant earlier this season too. Like, dude, chill. Express your emotions through cheering for you own team not being a tool to opponents.
I’ll trade Purple Shirt Guy for Uh-Huh.
clt says purple is not a good colour for men.
Hornets best player shot 36.6% from the field and an awful 32.6% from three while taking double the shots of the next closest player. Game 7 was a disgrace by the entire team. Marvin had no offense entire series. The fact we still had to rely on Jefferson so much does not bode well for the future. Zeller is terrible on offense. Frank needs a lot of work. Hornets are still a bottom 4 team in the East and are going to have to overpay for the same players that got them into that position in the first place.
Bottom 4 team in the east? The end of the season was tough no doubt, but let’s not be so hyperbolic.
Let me guess, game 7 was the only Hornets game you watched all season?
Huh?
Batum has got to be priority number 1. Max money isnt going to be an overpay for him. Its what the market is going to dictate. He’s damn good and lots of teams are gonna want him.
I think Lin is priority 2. He’s perfect in this reserve role and is worth the raise he will get.
Al says he’ll take a paycut to stay, but it would have to be a hell of a cut for me to be comfortable bringing him back. His game just doesnt translate to the modern nba.
Let Lee and Marvin walk. I know Marvin had a great year, but i just dont trust him after he gets paid. I’ve just never been a fan.
Let me guess, game 7 was the only Hornets game you watched all season?[/quote]
Guess again
Huh?
Batum has got to be priority number 1. Max money isnt going to be an overpay for him. Its what the market is going to dictate. He’s damn good and lots of teams are gonna want him.
I think Lin is priority 2. He’s perfect in this reserve role and is worth the raise he will get.
Al says he’ll take a paycut to stay, but it would have to be a hell of a cut for me to be comfortable bringing him back. His game just doesnt translate to the modern nba.
Let Lee and Marvin walk. I know Marvin had a great year, but i just dont trust him after he gets paid. I’ve just never been a fan.[/quote]
So we give up Al, Lee, Marvin (30-35 points per game) and add MKG (15 points per game)…so we have to make up 20 points. I guess Kemba can shoot 20 more shots and we got it. What I am saying is we have 5 of the top 40 free agents this year (Batum, Lin, Al, Marvin, Lee). All played significant roles in the rotation when healthy. When you don’t have a superstar, which we don’t, that is a significant impediment.
Well they arent going to let 3 guys walk and not replace them. My point is that their production is replaceable. Its not a coincidence that this team played lights out around the same time Al was out and or moved to the bench.
I just cant imagine watching this team all year and believing that Jefferson and Williams were the motor that made things go.
I agree on letting Marvin and Al walk. Even with a Batum max deal, they will leave plenty of FA money… A mid range guy looking to rebound off a bad year like Afflalo or Eric Gordon? A guy I really like is Kent Bazemore.
Huh?
Batum has got to be priority number 1. Max money isnt going to be an overpay for him. Its what the market is going to dictate. He’s damn good and lots of teams are gonna want him.
I think Lin is priority 2. He’s perfect in this reserve role and is worth the raise he will get.
Al says he’ll take a paycut to stay, but it would have to be a hell of a cut for me to be comfortable bringing him back. His game just doesnt translate to the modern nba.
Let Lee and Marvin walk. I know Marvin had a great year, but i just dont trust him after he gets paid. I’ve just never been a fan.[/quote]
All of this. Other than if Al wants to take a serious paycut and have similar minutes to what he did, I think he’s a good player to have, even though he doesn’t necessarily fit the current style of the team (at all). I feel the same about Marvin. Was amazing for us this year, mostly because of being finally given space thru the success of Batum/Kemba. But I think you can put a lot of stretch 4s in that position who can contribute for less than he will probably get paid after this past year. We won’t need Lee as MKG will be back. If we don’t give Batum the max he’ll probably go to GSW or the Spurs and make us look like idiots for 5 years.
Don’t cherry pick stats from one series with a lot of injuries with literally no insight behind it. I mean like others have said, if you don’t watch the Hornets, you could just say that, instead of spouting a lot of irrelevant information without context. I remember being skewered pre-season talking about how they would improve, especially 3 point percentages…and people just threw Batum’s career percentages in my face, ignoring context, injuries, etc. We went from last to flirting with first/I think we ended up 10th. Hmm.
GSW, Spurs, Cavs, OKC, Hawks, Heat. That’s the list of team better than the Hornets/probably always take a 7 game series against us this year. Miami, Boston, Atlanta all finished with the same record and Miami and ATL ended up with tiebreakers over Charlotte, otherwise we’re hosting a game 7 and maybe it’s a different story. However, the Batum injury also killed this team’s run and momentum. He has flirted with a triple double on average, and his ability to create, score, pass and shoot from anywhere spreads the floor for all of these other guys to have career years shooting the ball (Kemba, Frank, Marvin have especially benefitted). When you take that away the space disappears and our 3 point percentages go out the window. Imagine that. You take a near superstar away from the team and they don’t shoot as well and struggle. Let’s ignore the fact that they’re missing a 22 year old who is a top 5 on ball defender in the league and also averages around a double-double per night and shuts down an opposing team’s best scorers and this team played lights out. Any complaints with this team after what they recovered from/adding so many new pieces, I simply don’t understand. They ran into the wrong team that was one of the worst matchups for them other than the Cavs, and they came up one game short on the road. It’s not the way anyone wanted it to shake out but taking 3 point shooting percentages from the series and throwing them in complaining about players performances seems to be ignoring a lot of issues as to actually what went on…again, the biggest of which being missing the best all around player on your team (2 if you count MKG). No reason to fret or be upset about the direction of this team. They made excellent pickups and the coaching staff made countless adjustments to adhere to the players they had. They keep that up and keep the core and we’ll be back, and most likely 70% of the team that just beat us will be literally retired.
[quote=“ninerball49, post:97, topic:30313”]Don’t cherry pick stats from one series with a lot of injuries with literally no insight behind it. I mean like others have said, if you don’t watch the Hornets, you could just say that, instead of spouting a lot of irrelevant information without context. I remember being skewered pre-season talking about how they would improve, especially 3 point percentages…and people just threw Batum’s career percentages in my face, ignoring context, injuries, etc. We went from last to flirting with first/I think we ended up 10th. Hmm.
GSW, Spurs, Cavs, OKC, Hawks, Heat. That’s the list of team better than the Hornets/probably always take a 7 game series against us this year. Miami, Boston, Atlanta all finished with the same record and Miami and ATL ended up with tiebreakers over Charlotte, otherwise we’re hosting a game 7 and maybe it’s a different story. However, the Batum injury also killed this team’s run and momentum. He has flirted with a triple double on average, and his ability to create, score, pass and shoot from anywhere spreads the floor for all of these other guys to have career years shooting the ball (Kemba, Frank, Marvin have especially benefitted). When you take that away the space disappears and our 3 point percentages go out the window. Imagine that. You take a near superstar away from the team and they don’t shoot as well and struggle. Let’s ignore the fact that they’re missing a 22 year old who is a top 5 on ball defender in the league and also averages around a double-double per night and shuts down an opposing team’s best scorers and this team played lights out. Any complaints with this team after what they recovered from/adding so many new pieces, I simply don’t understand. They ran into the wrong team that was one of the worst matchups for them other than the Cavs, and they came up one game short on the road. It’s not the way anyone wanted it to shake out but taking 3 point shooting percentages from the series and throwing them in complaining about players performances seems to be ignoring a lot of issues as to actually what went on…again, the biggest of which being missing the best all around player on your team (2 if you count MKG). No reason to fret or be upset about the direction of this team. They made excellent pickups and the coaching staff made countless adjustments to adhere to the players they had. They keep that up and keep the core and we’ll be back, and most likely 70% of the team that just beat us will be literally retired.[/quote]
You seem rationale.
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I didn’t cherry pick anything. Kemba shot terrible the entire series and has been a terrible 3% his entire career. He had 36 games in the regular season where he shot below 40%—44% of his games. He is a poor volume shooter.
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I have been on this board all season saying the trades Cho made were great. I don’t see how me commenting on the series says I have not followed the team. However, I am not going to say we are in great shape either. Being mid pack is not where you want to be in the NBA.
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Batum being injured is an easy excuse, but Miami played without their best player the last 3 months of the season.
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MKG has never averaged a double double. He is basically Gerald Wallace. A Tony Allen with an improving offensive game. He is also not a superstar. He makes a difference, but without him getting hurt we would still have PJ chucking up 3’s all night at a 31% clip.
However, if you “real” fans are telling me Kemba, MKG, Batum, Frank, and Zeller is a top flight starting line up…then I am only inclined to believe you. Or are you saying we can sign a free agent who will be a starter?
Good news about making the playoffs? Won;t be able to blow a lottery pick this year
[quote=“sportsman1417, post:98, topic:30313”]You seem rationale.
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I didn’t cherry pick anything. Kemba shot terrible the entire series and has been a terrible 3% his entire career. He had 36 games in the regular season where he shot below 40%—44% of his games. He is a poor volume shooter.
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I have been on this board all season saying the trades Cho made were great. I don’t see how me commenting on the series says I have not followed the team. However, I am not going to say we are in great shape either. Being mid pack is not where you want to be in the NBA.
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Batum being injured is an easy excuse, but Miami played without their best player the last 3 months of the season.
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MKG has never averaged a double double. He is basically Gerald Wallace. A Tony Allen with an improving offensive game. He is also not a superstar. He makes a difference, but without him getting hurt we would still have PJ chucking up 3’s all night at a 31% clip.
However, if you “real” fans are telling me Kemba, MKG, Batum, Frank, and Zeller is a top flight starting line up…then I am only inclined to believe you. Or are you saying we can sign a free agent who will be a starter?[/quote]
I assume you meant “rational.” Moving on, I’m not sure what you mean by “top flight” starting line up. You mean like, top flight in the regard that they could consistently finish 3-5 in the East? Because they’ve done that with a lot of injury trouble. I realize Miami was missing Bosh but realistically they became a way worse matchup for Charlotte without him when they used Deng and a much smaller lineup. I personally think that was worse for the Hornets in the end. In any regard, you can’t just say ‘another team dealt with an injury’ like all of them were the same. The Heat exploded after losing Bosh because they changed their style of play when he went out. We owe our success to Batum and lost him right with all of our momentum. Two monumentally different scenarios. The MKG injury we have dealt with and is more similar seeing as how the Hornets have been adjusting to that all year. However, the impact is still huge.
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When people compare MKG to GW or just say “he can’t shoot, the end” that’s not quite even the beginning of the story of what he provides to the team. Either way, I think if the end of the day question you’re asking is if the guys in that lineup can consistently perform at the level they did to be towards the top of the East this year with a lot of injury troubles, I think the answer has been proved yes…that’s what we’re talking about here, right? You said the 5th seed, tied for the 3rd best record in the East, is the 12th-15th best team in that conference. Why I argued against that point when all I should have done was linked the standings, I have no idea. Alas, here we are. I think they’re the 4th best team in the conference. Aside from Cavs, Heat and Hawks I don’t think they would have had a problem beating any other team (or at least going to 7) against anyone else in the East…even given the injury troubles they had. Does that equate to 12-15th best in the conference for…anyone?