Doesn't the school have 70,000 Alums in Meck? Contact everyone that they need to buy at least 1 FSL, or we'll tell the HR Hiring Depts. that check resumes that they didn't go to school here, & don't hire them because they're a liar.
Noā¦The school has ~80,000 alumni TOTAL, so Iām guessing 70,000 are not in Mecklenburg Co, but your point is still well-taken.
[QUOTE=stonecoldken;409707]What do you get for your $1,000?
the same satisfaction as PSL holders have over single-ticket buyers who donāt get as good a seat[/QUOTE]
They donāt even promise me that!!! That is my biggest worryā¦that some guy shows up on game day, throws down a $20 and sits on the 50 yardline 10 rows up and when I paid $4000 and am at the 30 or worse.
[QUOTE=upperdeck;409728]They donāt even promise me that!!! That is my biggest worryā¦that some guy shows up on game day, throws down a $20 and sits on the 50 yardline 10 rows up and when I paid $4000 and am at the 30 or worse.[/QUOTE]
That 50 yardline seat will not be available. However, many of us green seat folks very well could be sitting beside gameday ticket buyers who only plopped down a $20 for it. Something EXTRA must be given besides a seat to justify our investment in the program.
That 50 yardline seat will not be available. However, many of us green seat folks very well could be sitting beside gameday ticket buyers who only plopped down a $20 for it. Something EXTRA must be given besides a seat to justify our investment in the program.
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You can donate whatever amount you want towards the football campaign. It's just that you get a nice benefit/reward if you donate $1000. Look at it that way. Maybe they should approach it that way. Football fundraising campaign in general.
Right. Just saying you canāt give whatever you want and still see football. Thatās what I mean about the $1,000 not being arbitrary. Referring back to Xās comment about the FSLs excludes the fan who might can only give $250 and will also buy 2 season tickets.
In other words, if there wasnāt a $1,000 minimum, would we have seen 5 $250 donors for every 1 $1,000 donor. Or, instead of currently having 1,600 $1,000 donors, would we have had 8,000 $250 donors? Who knows. But I think itās a good point.
[QUOTE=919R;409660]Youāre missing MY entire point. I didnāt say I would prefer ānothingā over FCS. I will keep my FSLs no matter what division weāre in and I will still be very excited on opening day. However, this does not change the fact that according to our administration, the ātipping pointā (ie; reason for finally doing this) is so we can align/join a ādecision-makingā conference, PERIOD!!! No ifs, ands or buts about it. This school will not do this if the plan was to stay indefinitely in FCS, I promise you that. If we do start this program (no matter what our Admin. says publicly) then that will mean we have a āplan/timetableā to get to FBS.
Playing in the FCS will help with community, student and alumni support but it will do NOTHING to get us in the Big East.[/QUOTE]
I know we have to be FBS to get into a BCS conference, MY point was that we werenāt going to get there trying to play at that level before weāre ready. We canāt play FBS with 5000 supporters. We need at least 10,000, and another 10,000 that attend the games even if they donate no money. Thus, we need to build up the team with what support we have to work with currently. Trying field a FBS team with FCS support does not work. The admin needs to come to grips with this and quit threatening to shut it down over what they perceive as bad support. It may just be they have a bad system set up to raise money.
[QUOTE=upperdeck;409728]That is my biggest worryā¦that some guy shows up on game day, throws down a $20 and sits on the 50 yardline 10 rows up and when I paid $4000 and am at the 30 or worse.[/QUOTE]
That group will be in the majority if the admin sticks with the FSL program.
Itās not that folks donāt want to donate money to help get the program rolling, itās that they are backed into a corner of having to give $1000 per seat without even having a ticket to show for it. They arenāt being given any credit for 49er Club donation, and itās not viewed as tax deductible. If you only need one seat to go with a buddy, I guess itās no big deal. When you have a family of 4+ there is no way you can donate $4000 like that.
[QUOTE=Normmm;409740]Right. Just saying you canāt give whatever you want and still see football. Thatās what I mean about the $1,000 not being arbitrary. Referring back to Xās comment about the FSLs excludes the fan who might can only give $250 and will also buy 2 season tickets.
In other words, if there wasnāt a $1,000 minimum, would we have seen 5 $250 donors for every 1 $1,000 donor. Or, instead of currently having 1,600 $1,000 donors, would we have had 8,000 $250 donors? Who knows. But I think itās a good point.[/QUOTE]
Someone said first year season tickets would be around $200, so lets use that as our example. Letās say someone needs/wants 4 tickets. Thatās $800, and you could set it up where they had to make a donation to the 49er Club Football Initiative equal to their total ticket purchase. That would mean another $800. Now I, as a fan, would have 4 tickets to the first game, improved my 49er Club standing, and $1,600 would be in the bank for the football initiative.
That does not equal $4000 for FSLās, but it gives a better indicator of the actual support we would have. It also would not screw the long-time supporters of 49er athletics over. My guess is that once the thing started growing those now season ticket holders would give even more money non-solicited over the next 3 years to build up a nice kitty before opening day kickoff. The creators of the FSL program will beg to differ that you canāt build a stadium without the FSLās, but you also canāt build one with only 1400+ sold and a fan base that has been alienated over the whole process.
Someone that can/does purchase 4 FSLās will have paid more money for those FSLās than all but 600 or so 49er Club members have [B]ever[/B] given. If anyone is around the lifetime giving total of $1000 to the 49er Club, give us a ballpark figure of what your rank is. My guess is that itās less than 2000 people based on my ranking. Thus, weāre asking 5,000 people to give more money in a single donation when there are only 2000 members in the 49er Club that have donated that much money over their lifetime. Does that not seem strange to anyone?
I know we have to be FBS to get into a BCS conference, MY point was that we weren't going to get there trying to play at that level before we're ready. We can't play FBS with 5000 supporters. We need at least 10,000, and another 10,000 that attend the games even if they donate no money. Thus, we need to build up the team with what support we have to work with currently. Trying field a FBS team with FCS support does not work. The admin needs to come to grips with this and quit threatening to shut it down over what they perceive as bad support. It may just be they have a bad system set up to raise money.That group will be in the majority if the admin sticks with the FSL program.
Itās not that folks donāt want to donate money to help get the program rolling, itās that they are backed into a corner of having to give $1000 per seat without even having a ticket to show for it. They arenāt being given any credit for 49er Club donation, and itās not viewed as tax deductible. If you only need one seat to go with a buddy, I guess itās no big deal. When you have a family of 4+ there is no way you can donate $4000 like that.
Someone said first year season tickets would be around $200, so lets use that as our example. Letās say someone needs/wants 4 tickets. Thatās $800, and you could set it up where they had to make a donation to the 49er Club Football Initiative equal to their total ticket purchase. That would mean another $800. Now I, as a fan, would have 4 tickets to the first game, improved my 49er Club standing, and $1,600 would be in the bank for the football initiative.
That does not equal $4000 for FSLās, but it gives a better indicator of the actual support we would have. It also would not screw the long-time supporters of 49er athletics over. My guess is that once the thing started growing those now season ticket holders would give even more money non-solicited over the next 3 years to build up a nice kitty before opening day kickoff. The creators of the FSL program will beg to differ that you canāt build a stadium without the FSLās, but you also canāt build one with only 1400+ sold and a fan base that has been alienated over the whole process.
Someone that can/does purchase 4 FSLās will have paid more money for those FSLās than all but 600 or so 49er Club members have ever given. If anyone is around the lifetime giving total of $1000 to the 49er Club, give us a ballpark figure of what your rank is. My guess is that itās less than 2000 people based on my ranking. Thus, weāre asking 5,000 people to give more money in a single donation when there are only 2000 members in the 49er Club that have donated that much money over their lifetime. Does that not seem strange to anyone?
No, not really because this is for FOOTBALL. You know, that sport that most of us have talked about for years and how it is DIFFERENT and people will support it much more so than all the other sports combined.
That 50 yardline seat will not be available. [B]However, many of us green seat folks very well could be sitting beside gameday ticket buyers who only plopped down a $20 for it[/B]. Something EXTRA must be given besides a seat to justify our investment in the program.
This already happens at virtually every home basketball game in the upper deck. Iāve been in the 49er CLub for many years and a season ticket holder since before Halton opened and I have people sitting very close to me all the time that I know are not season ticket holders.----I donāt like it but it doesnāt make me want to not purchase my tickets, etc. because I WANT to support my school/team.
Thatās strange, because any time I have ever used TicketReturn to purchase extra tickets all that were available were in the upper end zones.
I was under the impression that those people were either using businessā tickets or were guests of people that had donated a ton of money.
This already happens at virtually every home basketball game in the upper deck. I've been in the 49er CLub for many years and a season ticket holder since before Halton opened and I have people sitting very close to me all the time that I know are not season ticket holders.Well................ I guess you know your section is full of shady characters, especialy those that have season tickets. :shades:
Well................ I guess you know your section is full of shady characters, especialy those that have season tickets. :shades:
especially the front-rowersā¦:biggrin:
[QUOTE=919R;409805]No, not really because this is for FOOTBALL. You know, that sport that most of us have talked about for years and how it is DIFFERENT and [B]people will support it much more so than all the other sports combined[/B].[/QUOTE]
Where are these āpeopleā?
Did we ask for $1000 a seat to build Halton or rebuild Hayes Stadium? No, because we would have had a lot less than 1600 seats sold.
The donations will be the critical factor. Lets all calm down and wait to see if we get a few good donors before we go off the deep end.
[QUOTE=49RFootballNow;409858]Did we ask for $1000 a seat to build Halton or rebuild Hayes Stadium? No, because we would have had a lot less than 1600 seats sold.
The donations will be the critical factor. Lets all calm down and wait to see if we get a few good donors before we go off the deep end.[/QUOTE]
Canāt speak for Halton, but I do know there was an ask for rebuilding Hayes Stadium. I know several who participated.
$1000 wasnāt the minimum. But to be fair, college football, at any level, is a tad higher profile than college baseball.
Where are these "people"?
Exactlyā¦