For me I really dont care about the talk of who is to blame or going over who is to blame for past problems. It just says to me that we are still snake bit as a program. We continue to shoot ourselves in the foot, not only with our play on the court but our behavior off the court. The more it happens the harder it is to care about it.
Itâs hard to be a 49er basketball fan. >:(
awful. Mayfield was a beast at going to the rim. terrible. some just wont learn and make continued bad choices.
only thing to save our season now is 8 3pt attempts per game from TWILL.
Some of you people are pathetic. Since when is a college basketball coach a baby-sitter? These players are young men. They are plenty old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. They have been offered a free education in exchange for their talents. If they donât take full advantage of the deal, itâs all - 100% - on them and only them. Period.
One manâs mishap is another manâs opportunity. Itâs time for T-Will and Nickerson to step it up. We need more points out of Braswell too. I donât see any reason those three canât make up for Mayfieldâs lost points.
Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
I hold Major accountable for the recruits ability to play basketball. There is no way in hell the staff can be responsible for the off-court behavior of 15 college students.
Comparing that A-10 to this A-10 is completely idiotic. Top to bottom, this conference is phenomenal this year. Thatâs why VCU only beats Rhode Island by 6 on the road, even though Rhody is 15th place. Thatâs why every road win is precious and valued. Just food for thought.
And, by the way, I donât think anybody here thinks that 09-10 team was a team of scrubs. Or that Bobby was an awful coach. He was great for our program. But, I think most would agree that it was time for the move to be made.[/quote]
That team had Derrio, Spears, Anjuan,Braz, KJ,Gohkan, Jones, ⌠all players who have been characterized by the regular cronies on this board as having bad attitudes, lazy, to dumb to stay eligible, not good enough to start for this team ect. So surely Major will do as good or better than 9-7 in league play with the really good players that he recruited. ::)[/quote]
Step by Step here:
Derrio- terrible, a âshooterâ that couldnât shoot
Spears- Frigginâ headcase and whoever doesnât think so, you are an idiot
Anjuan- not bad, just never got a lot better
Braswell- needs to step up, not playing to his potential. Blame who you will but itâs on him. Time for him to put his balls back on now
KJ- bad knee, loved the kid but it happens
Gohkan- could and never will adjust to the âUSAâ style of play
Jones- was coming around and having a nice Sr year but is too stupid to live. Flunked out in Sr yr, how the hell do you even do that?
Last but not least Lutz- loved him for a while, it was time for him to leave. After he didnât get the UT gig he pouted and stopped recruiting for about 3 years and put this program in the toilet that we are just now coming out of. Missed the tourney his last 5 yrs I think, unacceptable- even he said so.[/quote]
Yep.
[quote=âpickman, post:125, topic:27430â]Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
I hold Major accountable for the recruits ability to play basketball. There is no way in hell the staff can be responsible for the off-court behavior of 15 college students.[/quote] This. We also donât know (well maybe Sokool does know) how many âstrikesâ Mayfield got. There could have been times he got off with a warning. If, as everyone assumes, the problem was smoking weed and he just canât lay off it, then Iâd rather he go now than over the summer, since this gives us more time to adjust for the long run. I hate this situation for the player and for the team.
Can we STOP taking transfers now? Guys like JT are the exception. Gerrity, Spears, Dâangelo. Mayfield. are the rule.
[quote=âpickman, post:125, topic:27430â]Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
I hold Major accountable for the recruits ability to play basketball. There is no way in hell the staff can be responsible for the off-court behavior of 15 college students.[/quote]
This sounds good, but is simply not the case. Every college coach in America is âheld responsibleâ by his/her bosses to some extent for the behavior of their student athletes and I think they should be (again, to an extent) since they recruited this student athlete. It makes sense. Imagine what would happen if all 15 players on a college basketball team got in to trouble at the same time and as a result, games had to be forfeited. Do you think the coach is not going to be held accountable for that?
[quote=â919R, post:128, topic:27430â][quote=âpickman, post:125, topic:27430â]Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
I hold Major accountable for the recruits ability to play basketball. There is no way in hell the staff can be responsible for the off-court behavior of 15 college students.[/quote]
This sounds good, but is simply not the case. Every college coach in America is âheld responsibleâ by his/her bosses to some extent for the behavior of their student athletes and I think they should be (again, to an extent) since they recruited this student athlete. It makes sense. Imagine what would happen if all 15 players on a college basketball team got in to trouble at the same time and as a result, games had to be forfeited. Do you think the coach is not going to be held accountable for that?[/quote] Being responsible is not the same as being held responsible. Sht happens, but in modern times, we always have to assign blame. I wonder if we can call Crumley and Associates to sue for our mental stress as fans.
[quote=â4ever niner, post:127, topic:27430â][quote=âpickman, post:125, topic:27430â]Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
I hold Major accountable for the recruits ability to play basketball. There is no way in hell the staff can be responsible for the off-court behavior of 15 college students.[/quote] This. We also donât know (well maybe Sokool does know) how many âstrikesâ Mayfield got. There could have been times he got off with a warning. If, as everyone assumes, the problem was smoking weed and he just canât lay off it, then Iâd rather he go now than over the summer, since this gives us more time to adjust for the long run. I hate this situation for the player and for the team.
Can we STOP taking transfers now? Guys like JT are the exception. Gerrity, Spears, Dâangelo. Mayfield. are the rule.[/quote]
Bowden 
haha ecu
[quote=âbball49er, post:124, topic:27430â]Some of you people are pathetic. Since when is a college basketball coach a baby-sitter? These players are young men. They are plenty old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. They have been offered a free education in exchange for their talents. If they donât take full advantage of the deal, itâs all - 100% - on them and only them. Period.
One manâs mishap is another manâs opportunity. Itâs time for T-Will and Nickerson to step it up. We need more points out of Braswell too. I donât see any reason those three canât make up for Mayfieldâs lost points.[/quote]
QFT
[quote=â919R, post:128, topic:27430â][quote=âpickman, post:125, topic:27430â]Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
I hold Major accountable for the recruits ability to play basketball. There is no way in hell the staff can be responsible for the off-court behavior of 15 college students.[/quote]
This sounds good, but is simply not the case. Every college coach in America is âheld responsibleâ by his/her bosses to some extent for the behavior of their student athletes and I think they should be (again, to an extent) since they recruited this student athlete. It makes sense. Imagine what would happen if all 15 players on a college basketball team got in to trouble at the same time and as a result, games had to be forfeited. Do you think the coach is not going to be held accountable for that?[/quote]
I get what youâre saying but at some point you canât babysit. This is his 3rd suspension in 3 years. Iâll say heâs responsible for bringing him here, but not responsible for his lack of judgement, and repeated screw ups. You can only help somebody so much.
[quote=âCharSFNiners, post:132, topic:27430â][quote=â919R, post:128, topic:27430â][quote=âpickman, post:125, topic:27430â]Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
I hold Major accountable for the recruits ability to play basketball. There is no way in hell the staff can be responsible for the off-court behavior of 15 college students.[/quote]
This sounds good, but is simply not the case. Every college coach in America is âheld responsibleâ by his/her bosses to some extent for the behavior of their student athletes and I think they should be (again, to an extent) since they recruited this student athlete. It makes sense. Imagine what would happen if all 15 players on a college basketball team got in to trouble at the same time and as a result, games had to be forfeited. Do you think the coach is not going to be held accountable for that?[/quote]
I get what youâre saying but at some point you canât babysit. This is his 3rd suspension in 3 years. Iâll say heâs responsible for bringing him here, but not responsible for his lack of judgement, and repeated screw ups. You can only help somebody so much.[/quote]
If the early suspension and removal from starting lineup wasnât Major holding Mayfield accountable, I donât know what is.
[quote author=4ever niner link=topic=31319.msg568902#msg568902 date=1359645638]
[quote=âpickman, post:125, topic:27430â]Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
Can we STOP taking transfers now? Guys like JT are the exception. Gerrity, Spears, Dâangelo. Mayfield. are the rule.[/quote]
I donât think we have a choice. We will have five open schollies come next year. Given Lester gets one, that leaves four to assign. We have zero recruits comming in⌠So transfers and JUCOâs seem to be somewhat necessary. Not saying we need to hand out all four, but I would think at least two of those four get assigned.
[quote=âHonest Niner, post:134, topic:27430â][quote=â4ever niner, post:127, topic:27430â][quote=âpickman, post:125, topic:27430â]Rules are rule. I think the remaining team members will have more respect for the coaching staff for enforcing the rules, no matter the offender.
Can we STOP taking transfers now? Guys like JT are the exception. Gerrity, Spears, Dâangelo. Mayfield. are the rule.[/quote]
I donât think we have a choice. We will have five open schollies come next year. Given Lester gets one, that leaves four to assign. We have zero recruits comming in⌠So transfers and JUCOâs seem to be somewhat necessary. Not saying we need to hand out all four, but I would think at least two of those four get assigned.[/quote][/quote]
Galen Young, Kenkay Jones, Cam Stephens, Sean Colson, Charlie Coley, Mandeep Gill and plenty more. JUCOs and transfers arenât a problem - the WRONG jucos and transfers are a problem, which is just like a regular 4 year kid. Making sure you get the right ones are on the coach.
[quote=âbball49er, post:124, topic:27430â]Some of you people are pathetic. Since when is a college basketball coach a baby-sitter? These players are young men. They are plenty old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. They have been offered a free education in exchange for their talents. If they donât take full advantage of the deal, itâs all - 100% - on them and only them. Period.
One manâs mishap is another manâs opportunity. Itâs time for T-Will and Nickerson to step it up. We need more points out of Braswell too. I donât see any reason those three canât make up for Mayfieldâs lost points.[/quote]
100% the truth. Should have ended the threadâŚ
Mayfield got confused. He smoked pot in Washington DC because he didnât realize it was Washington STATE that had legal pot. Thatâs why he failed the drug test. He canât tell his Washingtonâs apart. :o
Mandeep Gill was a good transfer? Whatever. :))
[quote=âNinerWupAss, post:135, topic:27430â]Galen Young, Kenkay Jones, Cam Stephens, Sean Colson, Charlie Coley and plenty more. JUCOs and transfers arenât a problem - the WRONG jucos and transfers are a problem, which is just like a regular 4 year kid. Making sure you get the right ones are on the coach.[/quote]Some jucos and transfers are major contributors. But too many is a problem, because they are gone in 2 years (Mayfield wouldâve had 3 plus the year sitting out, which is much better). Most jucos we get one good year out of, maybe 1.5. One or two is fine, but more than that and the program doesnât build itself. You need plenty of freshmen coming in, so that at least a few of them will develop over time into strong contributors, but also so that there is continuity (better team leadership, better team defense, better organization on offense). Jucos particularly, but transfers too, just donât have time to adjust to the program, their new teammates, and the competition faced (depending on where they come from) to have big impacts.
I agree that at this point a juco or transfer is probably needed to give us some depth at one or another position (mainly center) for the next couple years. But I really hope the staff doesnât start relying more on them, itâs fools gold to rely heavily on those players.
[quote=â9erken, post:139, topic:27430â][quote=âNinerWupAss, post:135, topic:27430â]Galen Young, Kenkay Jones, Cam Stephens, Sean Colson, Charlie Coley and plenty more. JUCOs and transfers arenât a problem - the WRONG jucos and transfers are a problem, which is just like a regular 4 year kid. Making sure you get the right ones are on the coach.[/quote]Some jucos and transfers are major contributors. But too many is a problem, because they are gone in 2 years (Mayfield wouldâve had 3 plus the year sitting out, which is much better). Most jucos we get one good year out of, maybe 1.5. One or two is fine, but more than that and the program doesnât build itself. You need plenty of freshmen coming in, so that at least a few of them will develop over time into strong contributors, but also so that there is continuity (better team leadership, better team defense, better organization on offense). Jucos particularly, but transfers too, just donât have time to adjust to the program, their new teammates, and the competition faced (depending on where they come from) to have big impacts.
I agree that at this point a juco or transfer is probably needed to give us some depth at one or another position (mainly center) for the next couple years. But I really hope the staff doesnât start relying more on them, itâs fools gold to rely heavily on those players.[/quote]
Agree 100% - as long as they are role players filling out the roster you are fine. It is when you need them to be leaders and making up most of the minutes played on a team there are problems.