Miss State postgame

What are you guys talking about? According to today’s Observer we won!!! Charlotte 78 Miss St 69.

a little harsh on dewhurst he played hurt today and is a solid player just needs a little more practice and work.

Yeah, to write off Dewhurst would be a mistake at this point… I think he has a lot of potential and look forward to seeing him grow as a player.

I don’t remember exactly, but wasn’t there an article that said DA was working all summer on his mid-range game with some NBA guy. What ever happened to that? So far, I haven’t seen any changes from last year. If anything, he is throwing up more bad threes.

Bottom line is, all that we have to do is get better shots. I haven’t checked the stats on all the games, but every one that I’ve looked at, we have shot the ball more than the other team. This means we are getting some offensive board work and thats a good thing. But…it doesn’t help to get offensive rebounds if we waste the extra opportunity on stupid shooting. We might as well stop crashing the offensive glass and save all of our energy for defense. I have coached before, and will coach again, and I’m not saying I’m a D1 level coach, but I do know that you have to adjust to the situation. That is something we are not doing. We play the same whether we’re up by 15 or down by 15. In my opinion, we’ve got a bunch of great shooters on this team, they just take ill advised shots. If we work the ball around until we get decent looks, these guys will make the majority of their shots and we will win games. Nobody is a great shooter when they take stupid shots.

Here is a link to the box score.

Observations:
Dump Truck was 0-4, 0 points, 0 rebounds, and 4 fould in 12 minutes.

For some reason Carlos Williams only played 19 minutes. It sounded like he was playing pretty well putting up 9 points and shooting 50% from the floor.

DA was 2-11 from 3 point range. Lee was 4-13.

Solid game from EJ… 12 points, 11 rebounds, 3-3 from the line in 36 minutes.

As a team we were outrebounded 47-41.

As a team we had 8 assists and 11 turnovers.

[QUOTE=4t9er;202554]I am not a Lutz hater, I think he is fantastic coach, and I have defended him alot, but you cant defend a coach that lets 37 three point attempts become the norm. [QUOTE]

Where the F have you been? Other than bad defense this is a Charlotte staple under Lutz. The only thing you can rely on under a Lutz coached team is bad defense and bad threes. I am a Lutz hater and it infuriates me that he can’t or won’t change his coaching philosophy. Same shit every f’in year.

I don’t know about the rest of you but i haven’t lost my 49erPride. Yes they are going through a rough patch and DA has struggled to find a rhythm offensively. But you can’t throw the team under the bus after 5 i’ll repeat that number 5 games. Yeah we expect the best for our team because we want them to succeed but giving up on them and saying you won’t support them the remainder of the season is just insane. i’m sorry ID but you saying you are giving up your seats just because the team is doing poorly really disapoints me. Had higher regards for you but i guess i was wrong.

I find that when someone or in this case a group of someone’s need your support when they aren’t doing well. Yea it isn’t fun to watch our guys lose and yes it probably is painful for us as well. But in all reality we aren’t going to win every game we ever play. Even if we did go undefeated the rest of the season there is still a chance of us losing games the following year. Losing is a part of sports. It shows and defines a teams character. Whether they just give and say “oh we’re losers we can’t win so we aren’t going to play the rest of the season” or they could say “oh snap! we’ve lost 3 in a row we need to get our ass into gear and play like we know we can”.

Personally I wish you would all would be there support the 9ers as loud you possibly can this next home game. THEY need your support no matter how many games they win or lose. You are still 49ers at heart as are they!

Im there… of course… facepaint and all.

As will i, i know people won’t like this thread but i feel it really needed to be said.

[QUOTE=the daxified one;202626]As will i, i know people won’t like this thread but i feel it really needed to be said.[/QUOTE]

Agreed

[QUOTE=ShaGGy;202568]They shot 35 free throws in the 2ND HALF! just the 2nd half!!! that is horrible!!

We only shot 11 the WHOLE GAME![/QUOTE]

I’m shocked we got 11, you don’t get many FT’s jacking up 40 3’s.

[QUOTE=the daxified one;202619]I don’t know about the rest of you but i haven’t lost my 49erPride. Yes they are going through a rough patch and DA has struggled to find a rhythm offensively. But you can’t throw the team under the bus after 5 i’ll repeat that number 5 games. Yeah we expect the best for our team because we want them to succeed but giving up on them and saying you won’t support them the remainder of the season is just insane. i’m sorry ID but you saying you are giving up your seats just because the team is doing poorly really disapoints me. Had higher regards for you but i guess i was wrong.

I find that when someone or in this case a group of someone’s need your support when they aren’t doing well. Yea it isn’t fun to watch our guys lose and yes it probably is painful for us as well. But in all reality we aren’t going to win every game we ever play. Even if we did go undefeated the rest of the season there is still a chance of us losing games the following year. Losing is a part of sports. It shows and defines a teams character. Whether they just give and say “oh we’re losers we can’t win so we aren’t going to play the rest of the season” or they could say “oh snap! we’ve lost 3 in a row we need to get our ass into gear and play like we know we can”.

Personally I wish you would all would be there support the 9ers as loud you possibly can this next home game. THEY need your support no matter how many games they win or lose. You are still 49ers at heart as are they![/QUOTE]

Two things.

#1. This isn’t 5 games, it is trend. I’ve been following this team fanatically for 17 years now and this is as depressed as I have been with the direction of the program. Not speaking for anyone else, the big picture is my concern, not 5 games.

#2. People haven’t said “Oh Snap” since 1989.

[QUOTE=s9er;202652]I’m shocked we got 11, you don’t get many FT’s jacking up 40 3’s.[/QUOTE]

Stop it already. Seriously. I get tired of hearing this. Yes, we are relying on the 3 pt shot too much, but if you want to compare shot attempts then use a formula like this:

3PTA vs. 2PTA + FT/1.5

You don’t get a 2PTA when you get fouled going to the basket.

We’re basicly a 50-50 balance team. We probably need to be more like 40% 3PT. But we also need a post scorer to make that a reality.

I agree that we shoot to many 3’s, but if you do not have an inside presense, what else can you do???

Don’t give me the crap about drive and dish, the defense is helping to much off of our big men and our big guys do not get open to receive the pass. They stand there holding their hand up.

[QUOTE=s9er;202657]Two things.

#1. This isn’t 5 games, it is trend. I’ve been following this team fanatically for 17 years now and this is as depressed as I have been with the direction of the program. Not speaking for anyone else, the big picture is my concern, not 5 games.

#2. People haven’t said “Oh Snap” since 1989.[/QUOTE]

agreed.
that 13-16 season we had a few years ago did not bother me that bad because it felt like a rebuilding year, now it seems we stay in rebuilding mode. There is a snowball effect happening here with no tv, no radio, bad schedule, the way we lose, other teams our size succeeding… its not just a few games.

[QUOTE=the daxified one;202619]I don’t know about the rest of you but i haven’t lost my 49erPride…
Personally I wish you would all would be there support the 9ers as loud you possibly can this next home game. THEY need your support no matter how many games they win or lose. You are still 49ers at heart as are they![/QUOTE]

I agree they need support now, more than ever & I will be there Monday night.

I guess when you get to a certain age…I know it is different for each of us, you expect some kind of return on your investment (for me, my investment is time & money). IMO, my expectations for reasonable ROI are not a National Championship or even a Conference Championship. I do expect a product trying to find ways to make optimal use of their resources. RIGHT NOW, the men’s basketball program is very predictable…on the court, off the court, in the stands & in the media.

I don’t see any change & I would be thrilled to find someone who could make me see otherwise. Given the environment of college athletics, I understand where you may have to kinda start over each season. But as stated by someone else at another place, ever since the rumors with Tenn, I have seen a different product put on the floor by Lutz. The environment, since the 4-5 game losing streak to end the season a couple of years ago, is DRASTICALLY different.

I can’t effectively illustrate in words how badly I want to see this program succeed. I don’t care who does what. I JUST WANT TO SEE A TEAM THAT IS OF INTEREST TO MORE THAN 3,000-4,000 people per game.

These players and coaches work year round to put on a show that is only guaranteed to happen 29 times this season. 20% of those 29 are done, gone, finished and right now there is nothing to grab onto to think it will change other than maybe the next game will be better. Thats not enough for me. I’ve lived too much on that in the past & it has worn out.

If those reasons, don’t work…how 'bout this…if I don’t go on Monday, I have to wait another 4 weeks to see them play.

[QUOTE=NinerAdvocate;202661]Stop it already. Seriously. I get tired of hearing this. Yes, we are relying on the 3 pt shot too much, but if you want to compare shot attempts then use a formula like this:

3PTA vs. 2PTA + FT/1.5

You don’t get a 2PTA when you get fouled going to the basket.

We’re basicly a 50-50 balance team. We probably need to be more like 40% 3PT. But we also need a post scorer to make that a reality.[/QUOTE]

Here is a tip NA, don’t read it if you are tired of seeng it.

If you can’t see we shoot too many 3’s you are as blind as Lutz is. Use what ever formula you want, we don’t have the shooters to shoot 49% of our fg attempts from behind the arc. We don’t have the shooters to do it 40% of the time. I’m not sure if several members of the team know how to take a 12 foot jumper.

Listening to some of you, we are the only team in America without a big time post player… Wake up folks, we aren’t even in the minority. We had a post player last season who didn’t get nearly enough touches. It is a flaw in the scheme.

[QUOTE=metro;202678]agreed.
that 13-16 season we had a few years ago did not bother me that bad because it felt like a rebuilding year, now it seems we stay in rebuilding mode. There is a snowball effect happening here with no tv, no radio, bad schedule, the way we lose, other teams our size succeeding… its not just a few games.[/QUOTE]

I am trying really hard not to agree with you on the “downward trend” but it is becoming increasinly difficult to convince myself of this.

Man, I miss the CUSA days.

[QUOTE=s9er;202682]We had a post player last season who didn’t get nearly enough touches. It is a flaw in the scheme.[/QUOTE]

When you continue to post this gibberish…

Curtis Withers wasn’t a post scorer. We gave him his chance. He dropped the ball (literally, a dozen times against NCSU). He was a tremendous rebounder and a great junkman, but he was no post scorer.

[QUOTE=NinerAdvocate;202706]When you continue to post this gibberish…

Curtis Withers wasn’t a post scorer. We gave him his chance. He dropped the ball (literally, a dozen times against NCSU). He was a tremendous rebounder and a great junkman, but he was no post scorer.[/QUOTE]

Speaking of gibberish… are you illiterate or simply to hung up on your own ideas you can’t see anything else. Where did I say he was a scorer, he was a presence that dictated the defense account for him. He was a post player that could have done more damage in the A10 than he was allowed to do based on the offense we ran

Miss. State has a decent squad. Their 2 losses are to undefeated Clemson(RPI 19), a close 69-66 game and Winthrop(RPI 53) 74-63. It always sucks to lose, but atleast it’s a quality road loss. This is a big weekend for the A10. UMass is gonna have it’s hands full with BC who just beat Michigan St. You guys are @ Indiana. GW v Virginia Tech. SLU v So. ILL, Rhody @ Providence. I hope we can all get the job done. Go Niners, go A10!!