MTSU postgame

[Submarley734]

[quote=“Tintin, post:39, topic:30641”][quote=“Submarley734, post:37, topic:30641”]Mullin needs to go. That should have been done at the end of last year. He is an FCS caliber coach, and he is calling our plays. Imagine how good Klugh can be when he’s not trying to make the OC look good, but instead, he has a real OC.

That being said, I don’t want to call for Lambert’s head yet, even though I feel like our game management has cost us three wins this year. If, however, Lambert does not get rid of our garbage OC, I will be calling for his head.[/quote]

KLugh had had less than a 50% completion rate in the last four games. What plays would you be calling? Keep in mind your oline consists of Barr, Zacherl and a freshman?[/quote]

Why did we start the game throwing almost every down then? He is a horrible OC. Anyone who has watched the games have seen his lack of coaching ability.

[NinerGreene]

We don’t have a single pass play that we can consistently execute. 3rd and long and we throw a screen pass?! I wouldn’t be surprised if we haven’t lost more yards on screen passes than we’ve gained this season.

[Tintin]

[quote=“Submarley734, post:41, topic:30641”][quote=“Tintin, post:39, topic:30641”][quote=“Submarley734, post:37, topic:30641”]Mullin needs to go. That should have been done at the end of last year. He is an FCS caliber coach, and he is calling our plays. Imagine how good Klugh can be when he’s not trying to make the OC look good, but instead, he has a real OC.

That being said, I don’t want to call for Lambert’s head yet, even though I feel like our game management has cost us three wins this year. If, however, Lambert does not get rid of our garbage OC, I will be calling for his head.[/quote]

KLugh had had less than a 50% completion rate in the last four games. What plays would you be calling? Keep in mind your oline consists of Barr, Zacherl and a freshman?[/quote]

Why did we start the game throwing almost every down then? He is a horrible OC. Anyone who has watched the games have seen his lack of coaching ability.[/quote]

See the offensive line comment (where were the holes today, or do you keep feeding Phillips who limped off the field three times today? )? Plus being down 14 points seven minutes into the game might have had something to do with that.

Never mind that we’ve already past the 2015 season’s rushing and passing yards, scored 78 more points, and have more rushing and passing touchdowns.

[s9er]

@Tintin

[quote=“s9er, post:26, topic:30641”][quote=“Tintin, post:24, topic:30641”][quote=“d6bound, post:10, topic:30641”]lol if you want Lambert gone. He is creating something special. Give the dude a break he had NO foundation coming in. Most coaches at least have something. Yes – the play calling is questionable. IMO we win that game with Kalif P and our healthy o-line. Hasaan is only a soph. Our receivers never help Hasaan out. Rarely am I impressed by a catch. Austin had a few nice catches. The last two plays to kofa and Mullen HAVE to be caught if you want to win.

I could not agree more. We shouldn’t have been on the field with those guys. We lost to them by 59 points last year. The offensive line was is absolutely destroyed by injuries. The offense was out there on the field once German, Covington, Davis, Perry and Brown were watching. WE should have never been in that game.

And speaking of the play calling. What calls do you want them to make? The oline can’t be trusted to open holes or pass block. Phillips is getting killed out there, as is Washington. THe wr’s drop tons of balls. It’s amazing we’re able to drive at all much less convert 3rd and 4th and long and we b**** about play calling?

They stayed in this game due to halftime adjustments and the guts of the players. Both these things I feel are because of Lambert.

The talent gap was huge today. You saw it in spades the first 7 minutes of the game. We tied them for 59 minutes.

I don’t love a moral victory, but the fact that we COULD be 7-4 is the reason we keep Lambert around.[/quote]

Judy Rose applauds this… acceptance of mediocrity is the problem[/quote]

Yeah. The anthem of the Charlotte fan. Blame all losses on Judy.
Don’t tell me what plays you would have run on offense despite having no offensive line or
definite improvement over all four years.

I suppose you’ll be calling for Langan’s head if we don’t win tomorrow, while blaming it all on Judy.[/quote]

Your handing out participation trophys is my point. We have pissed away a bowl bid, that’s a problem, all of the reasons you are clinging to as to why we blew games are just excuses. Judy Rose leadership HAS made mediocre the standard… an excepted one for you it seems… I don’t blame her for football losses, I blame her for a losing culture.

[JB49]

http://www.smokingmusket.com/2008/11/08/fire-jeff-mullen

Guy has been hated everywhere he’s ever been. I’m sure he’s a nice guy, I’m sure I would enjoy being neighbors with him, but #NotMyOffensiveCoordinator. And if we do fire him and he asks for a reason, make a compilation of every single Matt Johnson wildcat package play from this season and make him watch it.

[sportsman1417]

Lack of depth on the offensive line is a coaching problem. I did not watch the game so I can’t comment on that, but hearing the same excuses every week is old. We are slow, FCS guys, no depth. That all falls on coaching. We have now been in 5 games this year that’s went down to the final couple drives and we have won two of them. We have now completed two FBS seasons at home and never won an FBS game at home. Great building blocks. Can’t win at home and can’t close out games.

[49r9r]

[quote=“Submarley734, post:40, topic:30641”]The real thing that pisses me off is this game was not on TV!! Senior day, we are in Charlotte, WTF?!? How many games have been televised this year locally? Not many. How do they expect to sell the program when the public doesn’t know we exist. Not surprised, just pissed.
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I’m not convinced the administration’s goal is to sell the program. I think their original goal was to fill half the stadium with students and half with fans willing to pay up front to have football. Although they have been forced to alter their approach, they seem to only go through the motions. IMO our AD only has one program she really tries to hype up, which is somewhat understandable since she used to coach that team.

Regarding this loss… We would have won if we were healthy, but how many football teams are “healthy” at this time of the year. MTSU had major injuries too, but they still found a way to win.

[Dowless]

[quote=“4ever niner, post:19, topic:30641”][quote=“NovaNiner, post:17, topic:30641”]Oh and I should add, the officiating was f***ing terrible.[/quote] Anyone care to explain what “forced touching” is. Not a rule I know about.

Please no Trump jokes. Thank you.[/quote]

Never heard it called forced touching before, but the kicking team player cannot block a receiving team player into a ball. The blocked player becomes an extension of the blocking player at that point. If that happens it is a dead ball at the spot touched. I thought it was the correct call when I saw the replay.

[Dowless]

Last game the play calling was horrible. However, I don’t put any blame on the OC for this game. I do question that there has been too much favoritism with players on this team. Mullen is not better than some of the other receivers on the team. Johnson should not be coming into the game, period. Olsen was close to costing the coach his team and job. I think if there is a problem with the coach is that he is too loyal to some of the players. I don’t think this will help with recruiting and it will be his downfall if he continues. Play the best players and let the chips fall where they may.

[rtown49er]

The negativity here is absurd…you sound like a bunch of Pharisees…you wanted football and got but now expect a run for the roses in year four…how many of you crybabies were even at the game yesterday? If you were there I bet you left early b/c you got cold and needed hot cocoa…this team has pulled itself up off the mat and fought its guts out each and every week…and Coach Lambert and his staff deserve some credit for that. They are doing a fine job. MTSU beat an SEC team this season and we came back from a 14-0 deficit to nearly win the game…It is clearly evident that the coaches have instilled a never-give-up attitude within the program…that’s the kind of folks I want on my side of the field…

[MeanJoeGreen]

[size=3]The bubble screen calls have been garbage almost every [font=verdana]time. Our offensive play calling is prob[/font][font=verdana]ably the reason we have a losing record. Setting up the run with passes does not mean you hand it to #3 om 3rd and 10. Maybe our terrible play calling has something to do with some of the injuries we have every year[/font][/size]

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[font=verdana]We need to re[/font][font=verdana]consider reshirting quality freshman offensive linemen when every season so far seems to have ended with our line in a disfunctional liability. I hope that there are some shirts on that sideline that could have made a difference. We should be in better position to do that after losing the first FCS classes.[/font][/size]
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[font=verdana]We need more aggressive defensive calls like we saw in the second half. We will get gashed tha way at times, but that beats being marched on by backup quarterbacks. We also will never kill it with a 3-4 without great outside linebackers that can crush a quarterback in under 4 seconds[/font][font=verdana]. Our guys can’t do it in 6 seconds, if at all.[/font][/size]
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[font=verdana]If he is sticking around, Olson needs some playing time next game. [/font][/size]

[s9er]

@rtown49er

The negativity here is absurd…you sound like a bunch of Pharisees…you wanted football and got but now expect a run for the roses in year four…how many of you crybabies were even at the game yesterday? If you were there I bet you left early b/c you got cold and needed hot cocoa…this team has pulled itself up off the mat and fought its guts out each and every week…and Coach Lambert and his staff deserve some credit for that. They are doing a fine job. MTSU beat an SEC team this season and we came back from a 14-0 deficit to nearly win the game…It is clearly evident that the coaches have instilled a never-give-up attitude within the program…that’s the kind of folks I want on my side of the field…

So, we should all celebrate the fact this team was clearly talented enough to be in a bowl game this year, but didn’t win enough to do so?

And MTSU did best an SEC team… with their QB… Not a RS Freshman with a game and a half of experience…

[FSL_Owner]

@rtown49er

The negativity here is absurd…you sound like a bunch of Pharisees…you wanted football and got but now expect a run for the roses in year four…how many of you crybabies were even at the game yesterday? If you were there I bet you left early b/c you got cold and needed hot cocoa…this team has pulled itself up off the mat and fought its guts out each and every week…and Coach Lambert and his staff deserve some credit for that. They are doing a fine job. MTSU beat an SEC team this season and we came back from a 14-0 deficit to nearly win the game…It is clearly evident that the coaches have instilled a never-give-up attitude within the program…that’s the kind of folks I want on my side of the field…

Agree with a lot of this. As I looked around at the 1,000 or so fans left when we tied the game I was wondering where everyone had gone. It was a blustery 52 degrees when I got in the car after the game at 6 PM. If we can’t take that I fear what a really cold game would look like. We have a lot of growing up to do as a fan base. When to leave or even attend is a decision that I realize that every fan has to make for his or herself. I do appreciate the support of the gentleman in his 70s that sits in front of us who supports the team no matter the weather. We need more like him.

Do I agree with all the calls that are being made right now? No. But if we had Saban on the sideline I probably wouldn’t either. That is sports. Overall, the program is heading in the right direction. I set the line at 4 wins this year and we achieved that early in the year. If you look at the offensive line and who we are trying to play right now due to injuries, it is amazing that we move the ball at all. If you think we are a bowl team right now, you aren’t attending the same games I am. At full strength, yes we can hang with the majority of FBS teams but not right now. Injuries have piled up. Take a look at German, Davis, Covington and LaBianca all on the sidelines at different parts of the game or the entire game. We are getting there but just don’t have the depth yet.

Now if you want to take shots at the AD and some of the ways it is being run, I am with you all day long. I appreciate what Lambert is trying to build and he is trying to do it the right way. I hope he is successful. I believe with the proper support from the AD and fans he can get us there.

[Niner_National]

[quote=“rtown49er, post:50, topic:30641”]The negativity here is absurd…you sound like a bunch of Pharisees…you wanted football and got but now expect a run for the roses in year four…how many of you crybabies were even at the game yesterday? If you were there I bet you left early b/c you got cold and needed hot cocoa…this team has pulled itself up off the mat and fought its guts out each and every week…and Coach Lambert and his staff deserve some credit for that. They are doing a fine job. MTSU beat an SEC team this season and we came back from a 14-0 deficit to nearly win the game…It is clearly evident that the coaches have instilled a never-give-up attitude within the program…that’s the kind of folks I want on my side of the field…[/quote]ah the old yoi got what you wanted now be content with it argument.

Most people here are ok with losing, but not with how we are losing. We are every bit as talented as other cusa schools and eastern Michigan, yet our coaches make perplexing decisions that have cost us games not just this year but in past years. It’s not just fans, commentators for our TV games make comments about our dumb coaching decisions too.

MT is not the same team that beat an SEC team earlier this year. They lost arguably the best QB in the conference to injury. Look no farther than the niners to see how much a different QB can change your season.

[system]

[quote=“Tintin, post:38, topic:30641”][quote=“Iron9er, post:36, topic:30641”][quote=“Tintin, post:34, topic:30641”][quote=“Iron9er, post:31, topic:30641”]I’m not understanding the ‘we shouldn’t be in this game with the talent we have’ statements.

Do you guys understand that the QB we played against had 1 1/2 games of experience coming into our game and that MTSU lost to Marshall last week 42-17 in that QB’s first start? We made the game so easy for him in the first half, he hardly threw the ball 5 yards down the field. Yes, we made adjustments at half and I’m glad we got a gameplan together, but we were in such a huge hole. By the way, we shouldn’t have been shocked at what they were going to do, it’s what Rice did to us the entire 2nd half last week. I guess we didn’t have the talent to be in that game, either, though.[/quote]
MTSU beat us by 59 last year with a whole lot of the same guys. MIddle was video game mode compared to our last five game.
QB dunked and dunked the whole game. Qb rating of 37. Had 250 yards in 44 attempts. He was very average today. Against our very average db’s.

We lost to Rice last week because we ran out of offensive linemen (and muffed a punt and dropped four easy catches), which kept our defense on the field, but yes, their talent level is close to us. This is why I impressed with what Lambert is doing.

We were a well oiled machine and had a healthy ol against USM and destroyed them.
We had a somewhat healthy oline at the beginning of the Rice game. DAvis got hurt and we became real mediocre real fast. We hung in there today despite the oline.[/quote]

Yes, he dinked and dunked the whole game, that was my point. That’s all he has the ability to do, and what we allowed him to do in the first half. He had more td’s this game (4), then his whole career up to this point (3). This isn’t the same MTSU team that beat us last year, not without their QB. This is a team that was reeling with 2 straight losses to UTSA (not close) and Marshall (not close).

So you think the coaching performance was good last week? We were up 21-0 vs the last place team in conference and lost. That is good coaching?

Yes, we do have bad injuries to the Oline and they don’t look the same. To be fair, I was saying in my original post the OC had a much better game plan then our head coach. Decision making and D was the problem in this game.

Can anyone explain the 57 yd field goal attempt? The going for it on 4th down at the end of the half with 50 some seconds left allowing them to get a fg? These are bad in game coaching decisions despite what anyone thinks of the overall direction of the program.[/quote]

Sure didn’t like that at all. Didn’t like not trying a field goal from the 20 in the 2nd quarter…but guess what…all coaches from BElichick down make mistakes… and lots of them…every game.

But to me, the effort, the improvement every season far outweighs the bad. We are competing, developing players, and we seem to be graduating them.[/quote]

So, I’m trying to figure where you differ from me on this. I said the OC wasn’t to blame for this loss, most of the questionable decisions came from the HC. You are basically saying the same thing except in a more positive tone.

Let’s not compare Lambert to Belecick in any way. While everyone makes mistakes, I bet not one knowledgeable fan in that stadium thought that we had a chance at hitting a 57 yd field goal. It was a stupid call, not really a questionable one. Same with going for those 4th downs we’ve both mentioned.

Lastly, I guess you think things are going to get better next year. I don’t, but let’s wait and see. We are losing a lot of players, and our most important ones in Duke, Cook, Larry, and Kalif. I’m expecting a worse year overall next year, but I hope I’m surprised.

[Niner_National]

[quote=“MeanJoeGreen, post:51, topic:30641”][size=3]The bubble screen calls have been garbage almost every [font=verdana]time. Our offensive play calling is prob[/font][font=verdana]ably the reason we have a losing record. Setting up the run with passes does not mean you hand it to #3 om 3rd and 10. Maybe our terrible play calling has something to do with some of the injuries we have every year[/font][/size]

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[font=verdana]We need to re[/font][font=verdana]consider reshirting quality freshman offensive linemen when every season so far seems to have ended with our line in a disfunctional liability. I hope that there are some shirts on that sideline that could have made a difference. We should be in better position to do that after losing the first FCS classes.[/font][/size]
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[font=verdana]We need more aggressive defensive calls like we saw in the second half. We will get gashed tha way at times, but that beats being marched on by backup quarterbacks. We also will never kill it with a 3-4 without great outside linebackers that can crush a quarterback in under 4 seconds[/font][font=verdana]. Our guys can’t do it in 6 seconds, if at all.[/font][/size]
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[font=verdana]If he is sticking around, Olson needs some playing time next game. [/font][/size][/quote]I’m with you except on the Olsen comment. Why?!? Klugh is not our problem. He’s no Heisman candidate, but this team was so much better with him behind center. I would have given up on this team weeks ago of he weren’t the starter. I’m sure Olsen has talent, but he was a bad fit for this offense.

[s9er]

[quote=“FSL Owner, post:53, topic:30641”][quote=“rtown49er, post:50, topic:30641”][font=times new roman][size=small]
The negativity here is absurd…you sound like a bunch of Pharisees…you wanted football and got but now expect a run for the roses in year four…how many of you crybabies were even at the game yesterday? If you were there I bet you left early b/c you got cold and needed hot cocoa…this team has pulled itself up off the mat and fought its guts out each and every week…and Coach Lambert and his staff deserve some credit for that. They are doing a fine job. MTSU beat an SEC team this season and we came back from a 14-0 deficit to nearly win the game…It is clearly evident that the coaches have instilled a never-give-up attitude within the program…that’s the kind of folks I want on my side of the field…
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Agree with a lot of this. As I looked around at the 1,000 or so fans left when we tied the game I was wondering where everyone had gone. It was a blustery 52 degrees when I got in the car after the game at 6 PM. If we can’t take that I fear what a really cold game would look like. We have a lot of growing up to do as a fan base. When to leave or even attend is a decision that I realize that every fan has to make for his or herself. I do appreciate the support of the gentleman in his 70s that sits in front of us who supports the team no matter the weather. We need more like him.

Do I agree with all the calls that are being made right now? No. But if we had Saban on the sideline I probably wouldn’t either. That is sports. Overall, the program is heading in the right direction. I set the line at 4 wins this year and we achieved that early in the year. If you look at the offensive line and who we are trying to play right now due to injuries, it is amazing that we move the ball at all. If you think we are a bowl team right now, you aren’t attending the same games I am. At full strength, yes we can hang with the majority of FBS teams but not right now. Injuries have piled up. Take a look at German, Davis, Covington and LaBianca all on the sidelines at different parts of the game or the entire game. We are getting there but just don’t have the depth yet.

Now if you want to take shots at the AD and some of the ways it is being run, I am with you all day long. I appreciate what Lambert is trying to build and he is trying to do it the right way. I hope he is successful. I believe with the proper support from the AD and fans he can get us there.
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[font=times new roman][size=small] you think we are a bowl team right now, you aren’t attending the same games I am.[/size][/font]

[font=times new roman][size=small]So were you at the FIU and Rice games? Those are two terrible losses… those two terrible losses kept this team from a bowl game. This is a 4 win theam that should have been a 6 win team, that’s not anything to be happy about. I’m past being happy we have a team,[/size][/font]

[system]

@rtown49er

The negativity here is absurd…you sound like a bunch of Pharisees…you wanted football and got but now expect a run for the roses in year four…how many of you crybabies were even at the game yesterday? If you were there I bet you left early b/c you got cold and needed hot cocoa…this team has pulled itself up off the mat and fought its guts out each and every week…and Coach Lambert and his staff deserve some credit for that. They are doing a fine job. MTSU beat an SEC team this season and we came back from a 14-0 deficit to nearly win the game…It is clearly evident that the coaches have instilled a never-give-up attitude within the program…that’s the kind of folks I want on my side of the field…

I’m an FSL owner and I didn’t go to the game yesterday and glad I didn’t (none of my group did either) - I did watch on tv. Hard to go through 3 hours of driving and 4 hours at the game away from my 1 year old to watch what has become very predictable. Was at the Rice game and left shaking my head. I don’t blame any of our fans. 2 years at home and 0-10 against some of the very worst FBS teams in the country. I think coach has said you gotta give the home crowd something to cheer about. He hasn’t.

I hate it for our seniors, really good guys who deserve more.

[ninerID]

If you’re a fan of ‘showing up’ you’re in the right place.

[sportsman1417]

@rtown49er

The negativity here is absurd…you sound like a bunch of Pharisees…you wanted football and got but now expect a run for the roses in year four…how many of you crybabies were even at the game yesterday? If you were there I bet you left early b/c you got cold and needed hot cocoa…this team has pulled itself up off the mat and fought its guts out each and every week…and Coach Lambert and his staff deserve some credit for that. They are doing a fine job. MTSU beat an SEC team this season and we came back from a 14-0 deficit to nearly win the game…It is clearly evident that the coaches have instilled a never-give-up attitude within the program…that’s the kind of folks I want on my side of the field…

HAHA. This is great.