If anyone thinks not capitalizing hispanic could lead to discrimination, then they’re a damn crybaby.
Let’s all say it together. We all descended from Adam & Eve, whether you believe it to be via Evolution, Creationism, or Intelligent Design, so we’re all freaking related. There is no white, black, or any other kind of race, they’re all colors. The only race is the human race, homo sapiens.
Why don’t we all quit bitching about stupid stuff like what is or isn’t capitalized. Apparently someone is way too anal for this forum if they’re offended by a non-capital letter.
Jesus Ken, who you tryin’ to crucify?
There’s that conservative Lakota guy who’s pretty interesting. He says team names/mascots are of few things Native AmeriCans have going for them. Sad. I saw him on C-Span once, don’t know his name. I wonder what he earns.
Ken, you and Ninerone should be all over that shit. Do some fact-checking, and please say hi to your mom.
[i]Originally posted by anipalcraig[/i]@Sep 29 2005, 09:54 PM [b] There's that conservative Lakota guy who's pretty interesting. He says team names/mascots are of few things Native AmeriCans have going for them. Sad. I saw him on C-Span once, don't know his name. I wonder what he earns.Ken, you and Ninerone should be all over that shit. Do some fact-checking, and please say hi to your mom. [/b]
There’s that Liberal Byrd guy who’s pretty interesting. former Grand Kleagle and all, the ‘heart and soul’ of the US Senate who filibustered for 14 straight hours civil rights legislation those meanie republicans supported.
My wife says Sioux is pejorative, given to the Lakota by the Cherokee. It means snake. The fighting snakes.
NinerOne,
What’s your point?
[i]Originally posted by anipalcraig[/i]@Sep 29 2005, 10:16 PM [b] My wife says Sioux is pejorative, given to the Lakota by the Cherokee. It means snake. The fighting snakes. [/b]Out of spite, that's what North Dakota should change their nickname to. A big FU to the NCAA. Some may take it as a jab at the Sioux, but I would do it just to show the NCAA up. Then I guess a letter would come out that all reptilian nicknames must be dropped. :rolleyes:
anipalcraig…are you native american?
Nope, American Mutt, wife too.
Anipal needs to get a life.
If I was NDU, I’d sue the NCAA for everything they’re worth. It’s none of the NCAA’s damn business who they’re mascot is. How come every Native American in the country isn’t offended? If something is really bad, shouldn’t 100% of an ethnic group hate it? They’ve done polls, & most Native Americans don’t mind.
Let’s all say it together, all Anipal can do is blame whitey for everything.
SHow me the polls… Many of the mascots offended my grandmother…she was of the Hopi tribe.
and statical polls are not all inclusive anyway…
[i]Originally posted by anipalcraig[/i]@Sep 29 2005, 01:29 PM [b] I think racism often goes unnoticed. I mean, we all agree that racism exists, right? :unsure:[/b]
Racism exists, but today, it is not from where the politically correct would have you believe…those who cry racism should look in the mirror.
The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens…Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.
Not sure how many non white guys are watching CMT!!!
And if you want to have all these things…than start them up. Don’t speculated on what YOU presume the outcome will be.
[b]A student group at Roger Williams University is offering a new scholarship for which only white students are eligible, a move they say is designed to protest affirmative action.The application for the $50 award requires an essay on “why you are proud of your white heritage” and a recent picture to “confirm whiteness.”
“Evidence of bleaching will disqualify applicants,” says the application, issued by the university’s College Republicans.
Jason Mattera, 20, who is president of the College Republicans, said the group is parodying minority scholarships.
[/b]
This group did start just that. They were protested and called racists by other students and the national media.
I think you have to examine the nature in which this scholarship was made. A bunch of kids giving out a bogus scholarship in order to make others angry is kinda ridiculous and not at all the same what I was aking for above.
A picture “to confirm whiteness”??? Yea…thats REAL tasteful.
Parodying minority scholarships???
How do you think most Americans would react if the NAACP that “evidence of “blackface” will disqualify applicants.”
This is exactly the tastless…mindnumbingly awful actions that drive me up a wall.
A bunch of to big for their britches COLLEGE REPUBLICANS trying to make a confusing and misguided point.
[b] Not sure how many non white guys are watching CMT!!![/b]
CMT may have a predominantly white audience, but people of color should feel welcomed and comfortable to watch it aslong as they like country music. I do find Black Entertainment Television slightly offensive and certainly not inviting to other races, but then I really don’t care. In the large scheme of things the name of a cable network just isn’t a major concern.
Just tired of there being groups of this and that… why can’t we just agree that we are all humans and that every group has been harmed and harassed at different times in history and move on. Rather than focusing on all the things that divide us lets unite in what brings us together… things like the NINERS! 
[i]Originally posted by WBNiner[/i]@Sep 30 2005, 04:55 PM [b] Just tired of there being groups of this and that... why can't we just agree that we are all humans and that every group has been harmed and harassed at different times in history and move on. [/b]Yes every group has been discriminated against at one time or another, but sometimes its hard to move on when some people around today weren't allowed go to certain schools earlier in their own lifetime and to act like it never happened. (I think the first african american tarhole was in the 1950's?(modern era anyway))
One day we will move on, but you can’t expect people to forget those things and adjust imediately once you break down the formal barriers that were in effect so recently.
Thanks Lutz I agree… those walls don’t fall down over night. I think though that the current push for “diversity” does a great job of recreating alot of those walls. Atleast the diversity workshops I have gone to all focus on differences and basically “attacking” the dominant group. If you want a good way to see racial intolerance grow blame someone who had nothing to do with the actions 40 years ago. A perfect example was at a diversity workshop the facilitator (gay atheist male) asked whites to all raise or hands if we accepted the hurtful things our race had done to african americans. I didn’t feel like arguing so I raised mine, but another white male did not. The facilitator asked him why… and he said he was first generation greek and he accepted no blame… this prompted a large arguement and that person is now very anti diversity and I would say on the verge of being a racist… Wow… diversity is great.
I have never held down any person of minority persuasion.
I don’t feel guilty for what white people did before I was born. I only feel guilty when I personally do something wrong.
Segregation ended before I was born. Slavery ended before I was born. The screwing of Native Americans out of their land happened before I was born. I think it’s dumb to apologize for stuff you didn’t do.
Actually, I’m kind of shocked that WBNiner backed down in his diversity group. I thought he didn’t back down from anything. It must have been at work. That’s about the only place I’d put up w/ BS.
And the CR’s at Roger Williams U. w/ the bogus scholarship is a wonderful proof of your saying start a club casstommy. It proofs that the NAACP, the Rainbow Coalition, the United Negro (and also Hispanic & Native American & Asian) College Funds, etc. are also BS. That was the point the CR’s were trying to make. Don’t you get it? Anyone with a sense of humor & irony does.
I’ve had times I was mad at white people, & I am white. In high school, it was the white kids who mostly picked on me. When I 1st temped out of college, it was the white permanent workers who ignored me.
Now, Ken, you stick-up for Americans, don’t you?
I bet, if you had to, you’d run right out and join the army, wouldn’t you?
Now, I’m not one who ordinarily puts words into others’ mouths, Ken, but, I’m going to go out on a limb here, for time’s sake, and answer for you: “Why yes, I would stick-up for Americans in need by joining the army.”
Why would you? …because, bare with me, you give a shit… You’ve your own reasons for giving a shit, and they are valid to you. Therefore, they are valid. You defend what’s sacred to you, which is understandable. America, your religion, I don’t know, you’re congregation maybe, your family, your political ideals, whatever. You seem to be a stand-up guy for the things you believe in, and, you seem to value the idea of advancing your causes. You’re not alone.
Likewise, Italian-Americans look-out for Italian-Americans, and Portuguese help other Portuguese. This is understandable, no? (Sure it is.)
Now, here comes the part I don’t get. Help me understand.
How is it, Ken, that scholarship funds that are designed to advance specific causes or groups, ie, minority causes/groups, be considered any different?