There will be over 4000 football players in the portal by the end of the spring games for the year with only roughly 12% moving to a D1 school. College sports radio has been talking about this for two days how kids are giving up their scholarship before they are not playing as a 1-2nd yr player and someone in their ear telling them they can go start somewhere else. It has been interesting listening to all of the comments from former coaches and players that this is not working out for the kids, but coaches will love having the extra spots for players that were not playing.
So here is the big question for us. Have any of our players been waiting for Thursday’s decision before going in the portal?
Fingers crossed. Cause there are certain players on our team that will cause me to shed a tear should they transfer.
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Assuming you are taking basketball. Both Jahmir and Brice have tweeted comments about being excited about the guys joining, I’d say that’s a sign they plan on sticking around.
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Definitely talking basketball. I have not even thought about football yet. I was hoping that everyone that wanted to transfer off the football team has done so already but yeah I guess this means it’s open season on football.
Wow that would be pretty rough to allow transfers this late in the year in football. Surely some common sense rules on football would be something like you can transfer after spring practice starts.
At this point most players have had almost 4 months to make a decision.
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It’s the right thing to do. The one year sit out was silly. If you made a mistake no need to be penalized. Other students are not.
I have one foot out of college athletics. Stuff like this is pushing my other foot out too. I can see a day in the near future I tap out on this if everything keeps going this way.
If we are top 25 in every sport, I’m gonna assume both feet would be in and you wouldn’t care then about the rule changes? So you are just saying you are tired of sucking
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I dont see how these rules do anything to help us. In a field already tilted against us this tilts it even further.
The way I see it under these rules - Henry, Jarvis, Eddie, Alex Highsmith, Larry O and more may have never stayed here. I just don’t see how any of this makes us getting better possible. It is just a way for us to lose proven talent in exchange for talent that couldn’t hack it. Yes I am tired of sucking and I am tired of the field tilting further against us.
If players continue to seek a model that more resembles pro sports then I am going to tap out as a donor as well. I don’t donate to the panther and I won’t to us if thats the model we end up operating in.
clt says recruiting is going to become less important
Adapt or Die fellas! We’ve gotta apply the Healy model to Basketball and make it fun to be here. Have fun. Win while having fun. Good players will come and stay.
I don’t have the slightest clue how to make that happen anymore - but there’s got to be someone out there who does.
Two huge assumptions in your theory.
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All those payers would have rather played somewhere else.
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We couldn’t poach players as well.
I don’t buy in to either of those but that could be true.
It’s up to the coaches and AD to make this a place kids want to come play. Kids who want to bring a championship (CUSA or otherwise) to Charlotte and not just win a championship.
There will still only be a finite amount of scholarships available. So if a b-ball program wants to come after a top tier Charlotte guy that’s one playet they have to get rid of on their roster (whom we could poach) or one less player they can recruit (whom we can recruit).
You may not like it but it’s the fairest option for the student-athlete.
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If this new transfer rule was enacted because it was unfair to the player to have to sit out for one year, then why is it fair that a player has to sit out for one year when he or she transfers a second time? Are other students penalized for a second transfer?
Recruiting will be of the same importance and will be continuous. Gotta keep recruiting even though the player is already on the team.
Fairest maybe - but no one forced these kids into this system. With the exception of football they can go play their sports in other ways.
And yes they have to get rid of players - but the leveling opportunity for schools like us is finding diamonds in the rough and building teams around them. This new system is depriving us of that and trading proven talent for unproven bench warmers. We will get some players - but I don’t think the trade off is worth it. We simply can’t offer the opportunities that bigger schools can. Throw in NIL money and its titled amazingly against us. Even if they love Charlotte and our staff - if Chapel Hill says come here and we can guarantee you 50-100K in NIL money and you play in the ACC we can’t compete with that. Hell Oregon can put their entire AD on the Nike payroll. Assumptions yes - but I think the most likely outcome. If this helped us there is no way P5 would have taken this step.
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I always look for the unintended consequences when changes like this are made. Certainly it positions players (as a whole) as less committed to a school, and more to their personal opportunities. Coaches, driven to this new reality by the change championed by those players, will adjust. It would not surprise me for the reality of one-year scholarships to become a new way for teams to overtly cast off their end of the bench players, to make room for players in the portal that look like they may be better. It only takes one coach to do it, and you will see others quickly follow. Some student-athletes that have done everything that was asked of them will suddenly have no way to continue their education.
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[quote=“NinerWupAss, post:278, topic:31061, full:true”] This new system is depriving us of that and trading proven talent for unproven bench warmers. We will get some players - but I don’t think the trade off is worth it. We simply can’t offer the opportunities that bigger schools can.
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They may be unproven but they are on a P5 roster with P5 talent. That may provide more of a certainty (of coming in and being a contributor with us) than hoping a diamond in the rough HS recruit can adjust to the size, speed & power of college ball. If we can find the diamonds in the rough in HS kids…it should be easier doing it via the portal of P5 castoffs IMO. It can be done…we just have to embrace it and figures out a way to find an advantage in it.
Plus…There are plenty of 3-5ppg kids in Power conferences that want to do more with their collegiate career than that. If a kid is avg 5pts per game for a P5 school…he’s not going to the NBA. His aspirations may be to finish his career playing meaningful minutes as a major player/contributor somewhere as opposed to wasting his last remaining collegiate minutes waiting for garbage time and his chance to dribble out the clock.
It’s also a stretch thinking that everytime we find a good recruit that an ACC school is coming in promising $50K-$100K in NIL money for any kid that scores 15ppg in a god-awful conference like CUSA. The AAC will get poached in that way and some lesser P5 schools will too…but CUSA’s talent pool will rarely ever be seen as highly desired or poachable as it currently sits.
I just don’t see how this works in our advantage given where we are. Trading experience for wash outs I don’t think is our path to success. See Shepherd, Jordan.
Look the entire basketball team at Chapel Hill can sign a national TV commercial for Ford that nets each player thousands. End of year they dump some guys then reload with lower level players and sign Ford up again. Nike gives Oregon an unbelievable advantage. If Nike and Oregon want to win in a sport now they can.
If people steal our diamonds we should be able to steal other people’s diamonds.
Your theory will be tested this year. Young is our diamond, let’s see if he gets stolen.
The problem with your position and examples are they are the extreme of extreme.
You use Jordan Sheperd as your only example of a transfer!?!
Bamba worked out pretty good…so did Edwards for that matter. And now, there are literally 1000’s more of those to choose from. It’s a whole new talent pool to recruit from.
You keep talking about UNC and the ACC…and now Nike and Oregon. Since when are we trying to recruit players that would go to UNC & Oregon??? How many players have we ever lost to UNC or Oregon in either recruiting or to transfer…ever?
HS wise that’s especially ridiculous, right? But now because of this maybe we can go after the 4 star UNC/Oregon type players that get recruited over and want to do more than just 7ppg. Maybe they want a chance to be a meaningful player somewhere…maybe they want a chance to play 30+min and help lead a team to a conference championship instead of coming in for 5-10min per game on a team they barely contribute to.
Before…they were stuck there. Now, they have the option to find a better home.
The reality is what you are scared of is the rarest of all possible scenerios. Some schlum recruit that had to take a lowly CUSA offer all of a sudden scores 30+pts per game as a Frosh or a Soph (in a trash conference btw) so UNC comes in to offer a starting job and thousands of NIL dollars to come play for one of the top programs in the country??? How often does ANY recruit that we could possibly fathom to sign turn into an ACC calibre stud after 1-2 yrs!? None. Literally…none. Show me just 1 CUSA kid in the last decade that transferred up and became a meaningful contributor on an ACC/SEC team…just one. It doesn’t happen. The lure to jump up to P5 has ALWAYS been there but rarely ever happens because CUSA type conferences rarely ever find a diamond that rough. And trust me…UNC would MUCH rather use a scholarship on a 5 star freshman than a CUSA transfer averaging 15ppg with just 2 yrs of eligibility remaining.
I would be willing to bet there is FAR more talent looking to transfer down for more meaningful pt than there is that will transfer up…by a large margin. And the ones that talented enough to transfer up would have more than likely done so before this policy came in to play anyway.
I’d also be willing to bet that a much higher % of the 7ppg P5 transfers will succeed in contributing more to their next team than the ones that transfer up to P5. A CUSA 15ppg player will probably turn into a 8ppg player at the P5 level and play less minutes. The opposite will be true of a P5 player transferring down.
Your concern is only a concern in the extreme…though it will happen. But the larger opportunity is certainly on the other side…which is where we sit.
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