At least I’ll have Clemson and NC St. I figure if I paid tuition I have a right.
This thread is wearing this old man out!
I don’t understand what you’re saying. They don’t have to make tv money work, it already works. I disagree with your reason for the new division. As I’ve said, just because you’re in NC doesn’t mean you have to pull for CH. Hell, Duke and NCSU might be a part of this too. We don’t know at this point. They’re not banking on ECU fans to become CH fans. They could care less. The point of thinning out the # of schools is to get a larger share of the pot.
The 5% is just a random # to represent more than whatever the current number is. In other words, whatever theamount of people that are currently watching CH is not going to decrease because they’re in a different division from Liberty. Maybe it’s 5%, maybe it’s 50%, who knows. The point is it will increase.
If the Big10 has a current contract, and then the Big10 schools are in a new division, why would their contract be less? What exactly would they be walking away from? Everything is more or less the same for them, except they no longer have the risk of a UCF making it into the college football playoffs and stealing a spot from a Big10 school.
Great story but all we want to know is who was the lucky drunk lady that night… # 1 or # 2 and did you eventually turn against your school and all of us and actually say you were with the SEC or a Bears fan to make thst magic happen!!!
I think this needs a poll ( or pole) to see what people think BigTime did.
I don’t know what the future will bring, but if their gamble is that all of us that are not part of the select few will bow to those that are and change alliances, I’m not sure that’s a horse to back. Of course, there will be those that will say that I’m going to back the [enter states name] league team, but I don’t think this will be the majority. I think between the ones that are only going to be loyal to their university, and the younger generation that is caring less and less about sports, my best guess is that they will maintain status quo regarding viewings and apparel; but will not see exponential growth.
I’m sure that I’m in the minority here, however I don’t sit around with a hard-on waiting for some form of sports to be on TV (no matter the team). I don’t care if #1 is playing #2 in any sport. If they aren’t my team, then I could give two $hits about being able to be part of the water cooler talk the next day to discuss teams that I have zero connection too. I love sports, but only when I have skin in the game. If Charlotte is relegated to a the other conference (which I don’t see as a bad thing or the end of college sports), then I will be there cheering Charlotte and not caring what’s going on anywhere.
Just because you aren’t televised on TV every weekend, playing “the big names”, and filling 100K stadiums, doesn’t mean that you are irrelevant. It just means that you just aren’t “them”. Ask the fan bases of N. Dakota St, S. Dakota St, Montana, etc., if they are irrelevant. Their fan bases are just as proud and steadfast as the ones that thumb their noses at them and they they are doing it without the big TV $$’s.
I would rather be a successful FCS team with a strong fanbase than a bottom dweller FBS that has a minimal fan base that is pissed off all of the time due to being manhandled every game. But I guess we could still say that we are on TV and playing big name teams . I know that some say that if we are FCS, then I’m checking out. If that is the case, then you have proven the point for the so-called “haves” and I’m sure they will be excited to know that they have one more new fan.
I think the division means something. Right now we still play each other - as we will see when CHeat, etc roll into our stadium.
Take that away and it matters. I am done with the richest few programs dictating sports, but don’t for a minute think it doesn’t matter when they leave. It will be a huge drop in any kind of media support for our product. These media companies are driving this bus because they want to consolidate to as few brands as possible to control costs.
We won’t be included in postseason, rankings, discussions on their pre and post game shows. Nothing. We will all be, every school that does make their final cut, effectively “division II”. The TV $ will evaporate too as more gets diverted to keeping their primary brands happy. That last bit is what this is about.
The media companies are going to get their way. But it’s the fans that will suffer, including the fans of these schools foolishly cheering these changes on. It’ll take a couple of seasons until they realize that playing in a junior NFL league with no equalizing mechanisms like a draft or a salary cap absolutely sucks. As does playing fewer home games and rarely if ever posting a winning season.
But hey, they can clutch their “power” school designation, even as they go 4-8 as Bama’s or OSU’s whipping boys every season.
PS as to a draft - it’ll be the ultimate slap in the face when they institute some kind of draft of non Power conference players. They’re thinking about it right now. Don’t doubt it.
Drunk girl #1 and #2 may have gotten Lucky, but as a true niner fan my night ended in dissappointment, as all niner fans are familiar with.
I am definitley not above changing my allegiance for a night; I’m a Bad niner fan.
Agree with NA here. Like they say in Vegas, “Got to be in to Win”.
Longshot, but we are at least in the game with something to play for.
When that goes away a lot goes with it.
How excited were we to get into the AAC, even though our record sucks?
Would anyone choose to move down in Conferences to have a better record?
You seem to think they care what you (or any G6) does. They don’t. You also seem to think it’s a gamble. It isn’t. For the “haves”, things will be more or less the same, except for having to share with the “have nots”.
Me too.
Luckily for Louisville their administration didn’t adopt this form of thinking.
This wouldn’t be proving their point. Again, they’re already succesful without us. To prove their point from your perspective would be that they are currently struggling and need new fans to “survive”. That’s not the situation they’re in. This is more the rich get richer.
I think that’s another question I have about this. It’s one thing for us a program that Jason twin much to movie up, but how interested are some of these programs of basically never having a shot - if chapel goes to the super league they aren’t going to win. They are going to be in the bottom half especially if they aren’t playing G5s. How interested in that is their fanbase? The only way it works is revenue sharing and talent management but then why would Michigan or Bama do that?
I think this group severely underestimates how many people sit and watch “top” programs all day Saturday. Add in Walmart fans with no connection action to the schools and you’ve got the bulk of your market. Some people are just addicted to consuming sports and losing the G5 from that equation isn’t going to change it. Will some P5 schools be hurt or left behind? Of course. Will it change college sports, football especially, overall? Not really. We already only have a handful of schools who can compete to win a championship.
At the end of the day, it is what it is and there isn’t a damn thing any of us can do about it. If it goes the way that most think it will, then it will not impact me at all. 1) I will still support Charlotte and attend as many games as possible (no matter where they land or play), and 2) I will still not be sitting around all day on Saturday watching other teams play (no matter our status at that time). So I am not going to stress out or try to out think those that will be making such decisions since I have zero impact on any of the decisions.
clt has yttv set to only record AAC games, it is very easy
I know you are right about the P5 big brands. I think the networks are thinking they can maintain their college sports audience (all of us) and even grow it by consolidating the big brands and while yeah the individuals brand will pick up fans - if state and Duke get left behind their days of Walmart fans will go down significantly - but what I don’t think they understand is most state people aren’t going to become fans a the new super league team. Neither will Vt people or Cuse people, etc. In fact since their team is out of it I think there is a good chance they don’t watch super league games at all combine that with the fact that young people caring less about this stuff and the fact that every time a crappier version of the NFL has been tried it has failed and I’m not sure this makes the money the networks need or expect.
I’m not saying it won’t make money what I am saying is I don’t think the networks that are pushing this understand some of the dynamics that have made college football what it is and if you turn off a big chunk of your current audience in hopes that you can attach an equal or bigger audience I think is iffy.
Like I said I think only way it really succeeds long term is somehow leveling the playing field for the super league teams, then basically icing out all the other college programs so that super league is the only thing on tv. I don’t see either of those happening though.
They’ll make money but they’re lying to themselves with their projected market share models.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying!
https://twitter.com/TimBrewster/status/1744109561890365934
Again, I know some folks have an issue with this. But it’s how we get players going forward. Use your own discretion.
I am in line right behind NWA