Who made this decision? Rose? DuBois?
I canât believe itâs 3 years before kickoff, & weâre already running the damn team into the ground.
[quote=âstonecoldken, post:21, topic:24099â]Who made this decision? Rose? DuBois?
I canât believe itâs 3 years before kickoff, & weâre already running the damn team into the ground.[/quote]
Wow! A thread can go downhill quick. Guess the program should be disbanded for choosing not to get routed in te first two years. The FCS schools on the schedule will already be challenge enough. Most will have decades of head start. There needs to be some expectation of success and is there a coach in America you can hire having scheduled him 5-6 losses, including 2 woodshed beatings?
[quote=âNinerJags, post:22, topic:24099â][quote=âstonecoldken, post:21, topic:24099â]Who made this decision? Rose? DuBois?
I canât believe itâs 3 years before kickoff, & weâre already running the damn team into the ground.[/quote]
Wow! A thread can go downhill quick. Guess the program should be disbanded for choosing not to get routed in te first two years. The FCS schools on the schedule will already be challenge enough. Most will have decades of head start. There needs to be some expectation of success and is there a coach in America you can hire having scheduled him 5-6 losses, including 2 woodshed beatings?[/quote]
If going to the woodshead puts lights on the stadium, Iâll take it.
I am curious what USF did the first 2 seasons, whatever they did worked. I find it troubling we would critique anything publicly that GSU is doing. They are light years ahead of us in foresight and guts.
South Florida played San Diego State in thier 3rd season. They played Kentucky, Baylor, and Southern Miss in their 4th season. They didnât play a powerhouse D1 team until their 5th season, which was also their 1st season in D1. I hope we follow that model. Itâs a very common sense approach.
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If we donât need the cash then I am 100% OK with this. Personally I would rather wait and be close competitive with the big boys before we go play them. I donât want to see us get smashed. I was willing to if we needed the money and it would be a fun road trip, but it makes since to hold off if our funding allows it. Rack up some decent records, get alumni, student and community support up. Pad the record for the FBS jump and play the FBS schools when we are physically ready.
[quote=âstonecoldken, post:18, topic:24099â]To all of you who say our donors are cheap⌠Well apparently the school doesnât want $.
WTF? We NEED the $. 1 or 2 games a year wonât kill us.[/quote]so missing out on a 500k donation wonât hurt eitherâŚ
Iâll be fine with that once we at least have some upperclassmen.[/quote]
Not me⌠Iâd RATHER play them in year 1 or 2 when everyone expects you to get killed. It will look MUCH WORSE if we take an a$$ kickinâ in year 3 or 4 because by that time the casual fan will think we should be âcompetingâ, so losing 50-0 in year 3 will hurt our image MUCH worse than 65-0 in year 1, IMO.
While I was looking forward to a trip to Knoxville, I can understand why they didnât schedule a game like that in the first two seasons.
That said, no one has stated whether or not weâve signed a deal for after 2014 have they?
TN doesnât usually play FCS teams anyway. Not sure whyâd they make an exception for us.
Iâll be fine with that once we at least have some upperclassmen.[/quote]
Not me⌠Iâd RATHER play them in year 1 or 2 when everyone expects you to get killed. It will look MUCH WORSE if we take an a$$ kickinâ in year 3 or 4 because by that time the casual fan will think we should be âcompetingâ, so losing 50-0 in year 3 will hurt our image MUCH worse than 65-0 in year 1, IMO.[/quote]
Well, youâre completely impersonalizing the reality that the majority of our players in year one will have never played a college game prior to that season. Youâre only concerned about the money we get and the score, but itâs a BAD idea to send a group of newbies in to play against a powerhouse D1 team. Youâre asking for lots of injuries. It may make good business sense, but it doesnât use a lot of football common sense.
Sorry, but you guys assuming this means we donât need the $$$ canât be serious. OF COURSE, we need the moneyâŚthis appears to be more about our admins. having too much pride to take an a$$ kickinâ in the first few years in order to help the program long term. Seriously, we donât have $500,000 for lights but suddenly because of this decision everyone thinks weâre swimming is moneyâŚpleez. This will go down as our WORST football decision for years.
As for USFâs early schedule, remember they didnât have near the expenses that we will have (no stadium construction to pay for).
As for USFâs early schedule, remember they didnât have near the expenses that we will have (no stadium construction to pay for).
Thatâs quite a bold prediction. As someone stated earlier, weâre following USFâs model. Theyâre doing just fine after they made the same terrible decision. They may not have the stadium expenses, but they also couldnât afford a band right away either. Weâre probably about the same financially, weâre just putting a bigger burden on the student body to pay for it
Iâll be fine with that once we at least have some upperclassmen.[/quote]
Not me⌠Iâd RATHER play them in year 1 or 2 when everyone expects you to get killed. It will look MUCH WORSE if we take an a$$ kickinâ in year 3 or 4 because by that time the casual fan will think we should be âcompetingâ, so losing 50-0 in year 3 will hurt our image MUCH worse than 65-0 in year 1, IMO.[/quote]
Well, youâre completely impersonalizing the reality that the majority of our players in year one will have never played a college game prior to that season. Youâre only concerned about the money we get and the score, but itâs a BAD idea to send a group of newbies in to play against a powerhouse D1 team. Youâre asking for lots of injuries. It may make good business sense, but it doesnât use a lot of football common sense.[/quote]
The âinjuryâ excuse is lame, IMO and we certainly need nothing more right now than $$$ and âattentionâ to excite a new fanbase. A big game will do thatâŚhaving a record that is ONE GAME better (potentially) against all âno-namesâ and $400,000+ less cash will not.
Iâll be fine with that once we at least have some upperclassmen.[/quote]
Not me⌠Iâd RATHER play them in year 1 or 2 when everyone expects you to get killed. It will look MUCH WORSE if we take an a$$ kickinâ in year 3 or 4 because by that time the casual fan will think we should be âcompetingâ, so losing 50-0 in year 3 will hurt our image MUCH worse than 65-0 in year 1, IMO.[/quote]
Well, youâre completely impersonalizing the reality that the majority of our players in year one will have never played a college game prior to that season. Youâre only concerned about the money we get and the score, but itâs a BAD idea to send a group of newbies in to play against a powerhouse D1 team. Youâre asking for lots of injuries. It may make good business sense, but it doesnât use a lot of football common sense.[/quote]
The âinjuryâ excuse is lame, IMO and we certainly need nothing more right now than $$$ and âattentionâ to excite a new fanbase. A big game will do thatâŚhaving a record that is ONE GAME better (potentially) against all âno-namesâ and $400,000+ less cash will not.[/quote]
Lame or not, itâs real. And you also need to keep in mind that legit D1 programs are not going to play a team that is full of players whose last game came in high school. Theyâre even smart enough to know that it would be little competition for them, and that itâs not worth it to them either.
Iâll be fine with that once we at least have some upperclassmen.[/quote]
Not me⌠Iâd RATHER play them in year 1 or 2 when everyone expects you to get killed. It will look MUCH WORSE if we take an a$$ kickinâ in year 3 or 4 because by that time the casual fan will think we should be âcompetingâ, so losing 50-0 in year 3 will hurt our image MUCH worse than 65-0 in year 1, IMO.[/quote]
Well, youâre completely impersonalizing the reality that the majority of our players in year one will have never played a college game prior to that season. Youâre only concerned about the money we get and the score, but itâs a BAD idea to send a group of newbies in to play against a powerhouse D1 team. Youâre asking for lots of injuries. It may make good business sense, but it doesnât use a lot of football common sense.[/quote]
The âinjuryâ excuse is lame, IMO and we certainly need nothing more right now than $$$ and âattentionâ to excite a new fanbase. A big game will do thatâŚhaving a record that is ONE GAME better (potentially) against all âno-namesâ and $400,000+ less cash will not.[/quote]
Lame or not, itâs real. And you also need to keep in mind that legit D1 programs are not going to play a team that is full of players whose last game came in high school. Theyâre even smart enough to know that it would be little competition for them, and that itâs not worth it to them either.[/quote]
??? âŚIâll just agree to disagree STRONGLY on this topicâŚand I will remind people of this in a few years when everyone complains that no one is âpaying us any attentionâ as a result of playing seasons full of Morehead States, but believe me I hope I am wrong on this.
Iâll be fine with that once we at least have some upperclassmen.[/quote]
Not me⌠Iâd RATHER play them in year 1 or 2 when everyone expects you to get killed. It will look MUCH WORSE if we take an a$$ kickinâ in year 3 or 4 because by that time the casual fan will think we should be âcompetingâ, so losing 50-0 in year 3 will hurt our image MUCH worse than 65-0 in year 1, IMO.[/quote]
Well, youâre completely impersonalizing the reality that the majority of our players in year one will have never played a college game prior to that season. Youâre only concerned about the money we get and the score, but itâs a BAD idea to send a group of newbies in to play against a powerhouse D1 team. Youâre asking for lots of injuries. It may make good business sense, but it doesnât use a lot of football common sense.[/quote]
The âinjuryâ excuse is lame, IMO and we certainly need nothing more right now than $$$ and âattentionâ to excite a new fanbase. A big game will do thatâŚhaving a record that is ONE GAME better (potentially) against all âno-namesâ and $400,000+ less cash will not.[/quote]
Lame or not, itâs real. And you also need to keep in mind that legit D1 programs are not going to play a team that is full of players whose last game came in high school. Theyâre even smart enough to know that it would be little competition for them, and that itâs not worth it to them either.[/quote]
??? âŚIâll just agree to disagree STRONGLY on this topic.[/quote]
Find an example of a powerhouse D1 program playing a startup D1 or I-AA program. Iâm curious as to the last time it happened. I looked at the schedules of all of the I-AA and D1 programs started over the last decade and NONE of them played a D1 team in their first two seasons except Florida Atlantic, and they played new-to-D1 schools USF and UConn in their second season. The first one to do it will be Georgia State this season when they play Alabama. I guess weâll see how that works out.
People arenât going to pay attention to your program because you get your ass kicked by a powerhouse D1 team. They pay attention when you get in a big-time conference and play big-time games on a regular basis. Nobody cared about USF until they started making noise in the Big East a couple of years ago. The only time I noticed them in the first 8 years of their existance was if they happened upon someoneâs schedule that was relevant. FAU and FIU schedule big time opponents every year, and it has done nothing for them since starting their programs. Itâs nothing more than a money grab and a guaranteed ass-kicking in your first 2 years as a program.
Iâll be fine with that once we at least have some upperclassmen.[/quote]
Not me⌠Iâd RATHER play them in year 1 or 2 when everyone expects you to get killed. It will look MUCH WORSE if we take an a$$ kickinâ in year 3 or 4 because by that time the casual fan will think we should be âcompetingâ, so losing 50-0 in year 3 will hurt our image MUCH worse than 65-0 in year 1, IMO.[/quote]
Well, youâre completely impersonalizing the reality that the majority of our players in year one will have never played a college game prior to that season. Youâre only concerned about the money we get and the score, but itâs a BAD idea to send a group of newbies in to play against a powerhouse D1 team. Youâre asking for lots of injuries. It may make good business sense, but it doesnât use a lot of football common sense.[/quote]
The âinjuryâ excuse is lame, IMO and we certainly need nothing more right now than $$$ and âattentionâ to excite a new fanbase. A big game will do thatâŚhaving a record that is ONE GAME better (potentially) against all âno-namesâ and $400,000+ less cash will not.[/quote]
Lame or not, itâs real. And you also need to keep in mind that legit D1 programs are not going to play a team that is full of players whose last game came in high school. Theyâre even smart enough to know that it would be little competition for them, and that itâs not worth it to them either.[/quote]
??? âŚIâll just agree to disagree STRONGLY on this topic.[/quote]
Find an example of a powerhouse D1 program playing a startup D1 or I-AA program. Iâm curious as to the last time it happened. I looked at the schedules of all of the I-AA and D1 programs started over the last decade and NONE of them played a D1 team in their first two seasons except Florida Atlantic, and they played new-to-D1 schools USF and UConn in their second season. The first one to do it will be Georgia State this season when they play Alabama. I guess weâll see how that works out.[/quote]
We already know how the GSU/Bama game will âwork outâ. Bama will beat their ass for 30 minutes and play their 3rd string in the 2nd half. GSU will head back up I85 North with a fatty check. Maybe, just maybe, no FBS school wants to play us and thatâs why we wonât have one in 13/14? As for us following the USF model. USF moved up to FBS in 4 years. If we are NOT going to do that then we are NOT following the USF model. No, weâre following the UNC Charlotte model; God help us!
The BCS schools are scared to play us.
I was wondering about that also. As a first or second year program, we arenât going to have a lot of DI teams beating down our door⌠there are plenty of other places they can look. If we arenât playing any big games the first couple of years because they donât want to play us, then I understand. If we arenât playing any big teams because we donât want to play them, then I think it is a poor decision. The only reason I can see to turn down a game like that would be that we are afraid of getting our pride hurt. We are probably going to get trounced by some bad teams the first couple of years, and I have no problem getting trounced by some good ones also if it comes with a nice paycheck.
Just because USF or other startup programs chose not to play big schools early on, doesnât mean that is also the best option for us.