Totally disagree. Win, and you get more nil, and exposure, which means you can replace the players you lose with other quality players
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Im just not sure there are enough people that see value in that model- especially for us. At what point of donating to NIL do you realize how much a waste it is? Why do that for Charlotte when you can can a fan for free at Chapel Hill and they donât need your NIL money and get top talent.
FWIW I have talked to 2 people who did donate to our collective that said they wonât after Patterson fiasco. Itâs only two - but have to wonder how many other folks are jaded.
Gonzaga is never Gonzaga with NIL. That example lets you know how heavy of a lift it will be for us moving forward.
There sre a lot of multi millionaires out there that can not buy into the NFL or NBA but can now buy a college BB team and be the defacto owner / GM.
Arkansas and Rutgers are 2 prime examples if you look at where their NIL money flows from.
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It would take YEARS of consistent winning (Conf Tourney, NIT/NCAA) to build a consistent base of donations/supporters needed to maintain/attract a certain level of player(s).
We havenât won consistently in 20 yrsâŚwithout NIL.
Like NWA saidâŚget lucky with a roster today and have 1 good season and winâŚjust onceâŚand the players get plucked away now.
How do you build a consistent winner like that? You literally canât.
If your entire premise is built on IF we build a consistent winnerâŚTHEN we can get consistent NIL supportâŚthen that premise is DOA. Because with NIL we literally can NOT build a consistent winner (when our best players are plucked away every season).
We improved last season, and lets say we improve again this season, we get more nil donations, which means better ability to replace what we lose.
But againâŚhow do you build a CONSISTENT winner when your best players get plucked away every year???
Luck??? So you plan to HOPE we get lucky for 5-10yrs straight??
You said (and youâre right) that we need to win big and consistent to build our NIL base.
In this environmentâŚthere is NO way to do that. Because you donât even have to win even a littleâŚyour best players are gone every year (see our last 3 seasons).
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I also said that each year of winning will increase your nil funds, so the quality of players you can land is better. Thats how you build a consistent winner.
SoâŚus winning this past year gave us enough NIL to lose our top 3 playersâŚ
And the guys we signed to replace them are betterâŚ
which has improved our rosterâŚ
so we will win even more next year???
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh No.
Our roster is decimated. Weâre relying on luck again with the unknowns that are replacing the starters.
This will be the yearly cycleâŚwhich does not produce consistent winning seasons which will not generate a truckload of NIL every year.
But thats exactly what happened the last 2 years. We lost our best players from the previous year and improved. So why canât that happen again next year?
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Theres luck to everything but we added quality pieces and yes, i anticipate being better. We had no depth, no 3 point shooting, no size on the wing and minimal athleticism already and we still have 3 to give
Thats called luck. Luck by definition isnât consistent. You canât build or sustain success based on getting lucky every year.
How is this concept so difficult to understand!?
Your assumption is that its a result of luck. Mine is that its due to finding the right replacement pieces and good coaching. As you point out, luck isnât consistent so we couldnt have just lucked into 3rd place in the AAC. It had to be more than that.
Lets see how things turn out next year. If we continue to improve then its clearly not about just getting lucky
Not like weâre trying to replace Bird and McHaleâŚâŚ
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Alright @ninermac time to shut the board down. The posters say we can never achieve anything now.
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We used to get lucky from time to time during our heyday. Out of a team of 12 playersâŚwe would hit on a DiegoâŚor a JarvisâŚor a DemarcoâŚor JobeyâŚmaybe once every couple of years.
But when we did âŚweâd keep them and build around them for 4 yrs.
NowâŚwe have to find a DIego, Jobey and Jarvis every year (to be good again)âŚliterally every year. Itâ's rare to find one stud every 2/3 yrs or so⌠Now youâre asking the coaches to find 3 studs EVERY year consistently for a decade or more???
That takes more luck than hitting a Powerball
No, we donât. We are not recruiting high school kids and hoping they produce in college, we are recruiting players with xollege experience and have a track record that gives us an idea of how they will produce here. Different ballgame.
Youâre not way off base but thereâs a part youâre skipping.
Most everyone at our level is in the same boat.
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I donât know how many times this will be said and how many times the doom and gloomers will ignore it.
Weve been in the same boat with the same group for 20yrsâŚwithout NIL and unlimited transfersâŚand couldnât compete/recruit consistently.
But i guess NIL and unlimited transfers just makes that easier now?
Silly me.
In all honesty, weâve never had highly ranked talent outside of Rodney White. Our success has been evaluating raw talent and developing it. I hate the new system but at least we offer a thriving, metropolitan city to live in. Imagine being a 20 yo and choosing to live in Lynchburg or Provo.
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