[quote=āJB, post:35, topic:30163ā][quote=āFatalisk, post:6, topic:30163ā]Great game. Yāall showed some grit. Seniority may have been the difference in the end. White really hurt yāall.
Donāt worry, youāll only have to see Freeman 4 times. Unless of course we meet in the CUSA tournament.[/quote]
With him being eligible to graduate transfer after the season I would advise you to enjoy his likely final games in an ODU uniform.[/quote]
Huh? Freeman has played 4 years (2 at Campbell, 2 at ODU). I believe heās out of eligibility. Too bad, heās their whole team.
Absolutely! Foul before the shot. Donāt let them have the three pointer. I learned that in the second grade when no kid in my class could even get the ball to the basket from the three point line.
Even fouling the shooter in the act would have been better than letting him take the shot.[/quote]
Can we all refer back to the FIU game and see that this isnāt the greatest idea with our current youth?[/quote]Agreed. Great player made a big shot. We had our chances and didnāt take advantage of them. Just another game to learn from.[/quote]
I recall some of the so-called experts on this board criticizing a certain former coach when he elected not to foul in a similar situation in the final game of the regular season. We still finished in the upper half of the A10 that year with 19 wins and some of our fans thought 19 wins were awful. Wow, how I would love to see that again. I think Price has us on the way.
Not if the shooter was in the act of hitting a 3 pointer.[/quote]
I know I criticized Lutz against Richmond. Still believe that if you are up 3 with a short amount of time left, the other teamās lead guard is their best player, a strong 3 point shooter and someone you havenāt defended well during the game, and your team is probably not the better team overall and will probably lose in OT, you foul. Just makes sense in that scenario.
I didnāt keep up with the game as I was at a company party last night but it sounds similar. Hard for me to criticize since I didnāt watch it unfoldā¦but Iāve seen this scenario play out at Halton before.
The foul should have come, if ever, after Freeman passed off and before he got it back/as he got the back. If we tried to foul Freeman once he had the ball back and was facing the basket, he would have gotten a shot off and knowing him would have made it.
Itās tough to coach freshman to execute that during the flow of play when there is greater than 30 seconds left in the game like when the penultimate possession in regulation began.
[quote=āNiner National, post:44, topic:30163ā]Refs were pretty bad last night. Not the reason we lost (and almost the reason we won actually), but still bad.
There were several fouls they missed on odu, but in the sake of fairness, uchebo traveled badly on the play near the end of regulation.[/quote] So several missed calls are equal to one missed call (if indeed you are correct that Joe traveled) ? Refs are human and those guys last night just let their emotions get the better of them, which Iāve seen before for short periods of time during a game. Usually after a few bad spite calls, the refs unwad their panties and start calling the game fairly again. Not the case yesterday.
On a positive note, last night solidified a budding sports hate we have with ODU. That can be a good thing. ;D
[quote=āIron9er, post:41, topic:30163ā][quote=āJB, post:35, topic:30163ā][quote=āFatalisk, post:6, topic:30163ā]Great game. Yāall showed some grit. Seniority may have been the difference in the end. White really hurt yāall.
Donāt worry, youāll only have to see Freeman 4 times. Unless of course we meet in the CUSA tournament.[/quote]
With him being eligible to graduate transfer after the season I would advise you to enjoy his likely final games in an ODU uniform.[/quote]
Huh? Freeman has played 4 years (2 at Campbell, 2 at ODU). I believe heās out of eligibility. Too bad, heās their whole team.[/quote] You are right Iron9er. Freeman is listed as a redshirt senior on their roster. The ODU poster either was just trolling or doesnāt know his own team.
[quote=ā4ever niner, post:46, topic:30163ā][quote=āIron9er, post:41, topic:30163ā][quote=āJB, post:35, topic:30163ā][quote=āFatalisk, post:6, topic:30163ā]Great game. Yāall showed some grit. Seniority may have been the difference in the end. White really hurt yāall.
Donāt worry, youāll only have to see Freeman 4 times. Unless of course we meet in the CUSA tournament.[/quote]
With him being eligible to graduate transfer after the season I would advise you to enjoy his likely final games in an ODU uniform.[/quote]
Huh? Freeman has played 4 years (2 at Campbell, 2 at ODU). I believe heās out of eligibility. Too bad, heās their whole team.[/quote] You are right Iron9er. Freeman is listed as a redshirt senior on their roster. The ODU poster either was just trolling or doesnāt know his own team.[/quote]
I said yāall have to play Freeman 4 times. Yāall are now 0-4 against him. Meaning that you wonāt have to play him again.
Explain how JBās confusion means that Iām ātrollingā or ādonāt know my team.ā
I thought the Niners got a few calls, but it did seem a little one-sided. Definitely didnāt notice much if any homecooking this time (and weāve gotten that sometimes in the past), which is frustrating when other teams seem to get that consistently. That said, it probably didnāt help that the crowd wasnāt bigger.
I agree with those saying not to foul in that situation, too many things can go wrong, particularly when the players canāt play tough D and keep their eyes on the clock. We could foul too early (really bad given our poor ft shooting averages), foul a 3 shot, get an and-1 on a made 3 (the worst outcome), get a flagrant or technical called, or even just foul correctly but leaving enough time for them to rebound a missed 2nd ft and/or steal the inbounds. Iād much rather see us double Freeman and force him to give up the ball, and make someone else hit a 3, thatās where I think the coaches may have screwed up (or the players just didnāt get it done).
I hate to see the guys lose another tough one like this, would be nice to reward them when they play decently (that 2nd half). If the team can continue to improve defensively and hit ftās more like last night, then we will have a better shot at pulling these close ones out going forward. I just wish we had Uchebo for one more year at least, he carries this team at times.
[quote=āFatalisk, post:47, topic:30163ā]I said yāall have to play Freeman 4 times. Yāall are now 0-4 against him. Meaning that you wonāt have to play him again.
Explain how JBās confusion means that Iām ātrollingā or ādonāt know my team.ā[/quote] Could have cleared that up by saying āyou will only have had to seeā rather than āyou will only have to seeā, which can be interpreted to mean four more times in the future.
I donāt think youāre trying to troll necessarily, but what you posted comes across as smack talk, and right after a tough loss like that, donāt act surprised at a hostile reaction.
[quote=ā9erken, post:49, topic:30163ā][quote=āFatalisk, post:47, topic:30163ā]I said yāall have to play Freeman 4 times. Yāall are now 0-4 against him. Meaning that you wonāt have to play him again.
Explain how JBās confusion means that Iām ātrollingā or ādonāt know my team.ā[/quote] Could have cleared that up by saying āyou will only have had to seeā rather than āyou will only have to seeā, which can be interpreted to mean four more times in the future.
I donāt think youāre trying to troll necessarily, but what you posted comes across as smack talk, and right after a tough loss like that, donāt act surprised at a hostile reaction.[/quote]
9ERKen is right. Freemanās stats look like he has only played 3 years.It was just a bit confusing. We didnāt mean to offend you guys from Dominican.
Lolā¦ the communication error in this case lies on the receiving end. Hilarious to watch ya try to spin that one.
In what way am I acting surprised? All Iāve done is defend myself of false accusations of ātrollingā and ānot knowing my team.ā Iāve actually taken the high road and havenāt even responded to messages like these:
He certainly has a ridiculous usage rate. Itās not like we arenāt getting a ton of help though next year though. That help includes two top 100 recruits and some other gems. There is more uncertainty going into next year than there was this; however, we will be a much more balanced and WAY deeper team next year. Iāll put it this way, the '16-'17 Monarchs have a higher ceiling than 13-10 after 23 games like the current team is sitting.
He certainly has a ridiculous usage rate. Itās not like we arenāt getting a ton of help though next year though. That help includes two top 100 recruits and some other gems. There is more uncertainty going into next year than there was this; however, we will be a much more balanced and WAY deeper team next year. Iāll put it this way, the '16-'17 Monarchs have a higher ceiling than 13-10 after 23 games like the current team is sitting.[/quote]
Yeah, but werenāt you trumping up last year how good youād be this year with all the guys you were getting in plus returning? Everybody thinks they will be better next year with great recruits, though not always the case. Youāre better than us the last 2 years, sure, but a 13-10 CUSA team isnāt much to gloat about.
Congrats to Freeman, though, heās a heck of a player.
He certainly has a ridiculous usage rate. Itās not like we arenāt getting a ton of help though next year though. That help includes two top 100 recruits and some other gems. There is more uncertainty going into next year than there was this; however, we will be a much more balanced and WAY deeper team next year. Iāll put it this way, the '16-'17 Monarchs have a higher ceiling than 13-10 after 23 games like the current team is sitting.[/quote]
Howās it feel to be ODUās version of StillJonesing?
He certainly has a ridiculous usage rate. Itās not like we arenāt getting a ton of help though next year though. That help includes two top 100 recruits and some other gems. There is more uncertainty going into next year than there was this; however, we will be a much more balanced and WAY deeper team next year. Iāll put it this way, the '16-'17 Monarchs have a higher ceiling than 13-10 after 23 games like the current team is sitting.[/quote]
Howās it feel to be ODUās version of StillJonesing?[/quote]
Yeah, I almost brought his name up, but thought that if we do so he might pop up here like Beetlejuice.
Lolā¦ the communication error in this case lies on the receiving end. Hilarious to watch ya try to spin that one.
In what way am I acting surprised? All Iāve done is defend myself of false accusations of ātrollingā and ānot knowing my team.ā Iāve actually taken the high road and havenāt even responded to messages like these:
[quote=ā4ever niner, post:11, topic:30163ā]Donāt worry too much that #20 might blow out a knee or something and yaāll will be totally screwed. Enjoy your 8 on 5 win.[/quote][/quote] The high road is the one that leads you somewhere else besides here. Donāt come buzzing around like a mosquito and act all huffy when you get slapped.
Good day, sir.
[quote=ā4ever niner, post:57, topic:30163ā]The high road is the one that leads you somewhere else besides here. Donāt come buzzing around like a mosquito and act all huffy when you get slapped.
Good day, sir.[/quote]
I see youāre still emotional about Freemanās game tying (ending) 3-pointer.
Look guys, next year we have these guys coming in:
[quote=āFatalisk, post:58, topic:30163ā][quote=ā4ever niner, post:57, topic:30163ā]The high road is the one that leads you somewhere else besides here. Donāt come buzzing around like a mosquito and act all huffy when you get slapped.
Good day, sir.[/quote]
I see youāre still emotional about Freemanās game tying (ending) 3-pointer.
Look guys, next year we have these guys coming in:
Plus weāre getting other freshman and JUCO talent. Brandan Stith had a great game last night in the post. Heās been putting in work. Only a RS SO.
ODU will be fine. Thanks guys.[/quote]
You do understand Charlotte is a very, very young team with transfers coming in next year too right? Also this is Priceās first full year of recruiting. Trust me Charlotte is only getting better from here on out.
i really doubt that odu will get a player coming in that can produce like trey freeman. on the other hand, we are adding to our already talented, young backcourt with a highly ranked guard who might be the most highly ranked incoming player in the league.
Unless of course we meet in the CUSA tournament.[/quote]