Suspension is not enough, IMO. If it was a guy whoād been with us from the beginning of his career and had no prior character concerns, itād be one thingā¦ but this isnāt that.
This isnāt a case of āguilty until proven innocentā either. Nobody is playing judge or jury here.
What this is is a kid who we took a chance on. Heād had a sordid history before he came here, gotten kicked off of the teams at Miami and Towson. He was on a zero-tolerance tightrope.
Whether he actually is guilty or not, he put himself in this position and as a result has cast a negative light on a young program. There should be no place for that on our roster. Full stop.
[quote=āZombieLew, post:21, topic:30820ā]Suspension is not enough, IMO. If it was a guy whoād been with us from the beginning of his career and had no prior character concerns, itād be one thingā¦ but this isnāt that.
This isnāt a case of āguilty until proven innocentā either. Nobody is playing judge or jury here.
What this is is a kid who we took a chance on. Heād had a sordid history before he came here, gotten kicked off of the teams at Miami and Towson. He was on a zero-tolerance tightrope.
Whether he actually is guilty or not, he put himself in this position and as a result has cast a negative light on a young program. There should be no place for that on our roster. Full stop.[/quote]
I suspect suspension is just following a process they have in place to protect the school from legal ramifications. Suspension, then termination of relationship after the proper communication and investigation. I am pretty sure they have a defined process they follow regardless of the individual or action.
[quote=āNinerWupAss, post:22, topic:30820ā][quote=āZombieLew, post:21, topic:30820ā]Suspension is not enough, IMO. If it was a guy whoād been with us from the beginning of his career and had no prior character concerns, itād be one thingā¦ but this isnāt that.
This isnāt a case of āguilty until proven innocentā either. Nobody is playing judge or jury here.
What this is is a kid who we took a chance on. Heād had a sordid history before he came here, gotten kicked off of the teams at Miami and Towson. He was on a zero-tolerance tightrope.
Whether he actually is guilty or not, he put himself in this position and as a result has cast a negative light on a young program. There should be no place for that on our roster. Full stop.[/quote]
I suspect suspension is just following a process they have in place to protect the school from legal ramifications. Suspension, then termination of relationship after the proper communication and investigation. I am pretty sure they have a defined process they follow regardless of the individual or action.[/quote]Agreed, NWA. They have a process and are handling things they way they should be. You have to let the process run its course, then take final action.
The details seem a bit too severe for a living-in-brothers-shadow issue. He has some deep seated psychosis usually only exhibited by someone who has been severely traumatized. I hope whatever the issue is, he gets help, because he is not gonna get better on his own. If he is ever gonna have a life again (after prison or whatever punishment he is given), and not be a threat to others, he must get help.
Lambert (and Judy I suppose) are going to have to answer some questions. They rolled the dice on a clear character issueā¦ Granted Olsenās history is nothing near this abhorrent, but he had track record of stupidity and police record to substantiate it.
The thought process in bringing him aboard is going to get second guessed big time.
[quote=āstonecoldken, post:27, topic:30820ā]Considering his parents moved here to watch him, & his brother was runner up for Man of the Year, I think he was due a risk.
Released on $103K bond, I wouldnāt pay more than $1K for one of my kids. The jail can keep 'em.
Not to blame the victim, but why would you meet up with him, AFTER he threatened to kill you. WTH?[/quote]people do dumb things for love. She probably just thought he was being drunk and dumb.
Unfortunately, it turned into a serious situation. If there is any silver lining in this, at least he didnāt live up to the death threat.
From the details emerging this morning, sounds like he should be on suicide watch. After already threatening to kill himself, and now probably coming to the realization that his life is over for all intents and purposes, he should probably be under 24hr watch.
[quote=āstonecoldken, post:27, topic:30820ā]Considering his parents moved here to watch him, & his brother was runner up for Man of the Year, I think he was due a risk.
Released on $103K bond, I wouldnāt pay more than $1K for one of my kids. The jail can keep 'em.
Not to blame the victim, but why would you meet up with him, AFTER he threatened to kill you. WTH?[/quote]
Giving a victim blaming disclaimer and then blaming the victim is still victim blaming. Just donāt do it.
[quote=āstonecoldken, post:27, topic:30820ā]Considering his parents moved here to watch him, & his brother was runner up for Man of the Year, I think he was due a risk.
Released on $103K bond, I wouldnāt pay more than $1K for one of my kids. The jail can keep 'em.
Not to blame the victim, but why would you meet up with him, AFTER he threatened to kill you. WTH?[/quote]
His parents and brother are terrific. But he was an asshole, and didnāt change it appears. Some mistakes you canāt un-doā¦ this mistake was a really really big one.
Not going to blame the victim, but immeadiately blaming the victim. Brilliant.
^ if I know an area in east Charlotte isnāt the safest place to be walking after darkā¦ but I do it anyways and I get robbed, Iām not to blame but Iām still an idiot right.
Iām not saying rape and robbery are similar things, Iām more saying that just asking the question why she goes back to him isnāt saying she is to blame. She didnāt make a smart decision. Much like the next girl that dates him, Greg hardy, etc.
[quote=ās9er, post:26, topic:30820ā]Lambert (and Judy I suppose) are going to have to answer some questions. They rolled the dice on a clear character issueā¦ Granted Olsenās history is nothing near this abhorrent, but he had track record of stupidity and police record to substantiate it.
The thought process in bringing him aboard is going to get second guessed big time.[/quote]
I agree. Also, this incident will more than likely prevent coaches from taking a chance on future prospects that āmay have a historyā.
[quote=ās9er, post:26, topic:30820ā]Lambert (and Judy I suppose) are going to have to answer some questions. They rolled the dice on a clear character issueā¦ Granted Olsenās history is nothing near this abhorrent, but he had track record of stupidity and police record to substantiate it.
The thought process in bringing him aboard is going to get second guessed big time.[/quote]
I agree. Also, this incident will more than likely prevent coaches from taking a chance on future prospects that āmay have a historyā.
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I agree which I donāt necessarily see as a bad thing. Obviously people do deserve second chances, but we were his 3rd chance.