plan b is fine. the most important thing is to get it started. anything is fine with me to get it started. i am a little disappointed that we have not approached the community more than we have. niner football should not be viewed as âfor niners onlyâ.
I like the credit card payment plan proposed by someone here. THere's your monthly plan right there.
Yes, but then you are paying interest to a credit card company.
That was the idea I had a while back.
The intent was to A) get a bank interested in helping early and B) it would be no interest for say 3 years, much like you see on the Ashley Furniture or Rooms to Go commercials.
Throw me in that boat also. I was excited about football before the details on the FSL's and stuff came out. I have 4 season tickets for basketball, and will need at least 6 for football. $6000 was steep, but the required $1500 PER YEAR for those with 5+ FSL's did me in. I can swing 6000 over the next 4 years, somehow, but I can't guarantee $1500 per year with an 8 month old and likely more to come before we take the field. If that wasn't enough, we're not even going to get good seats if we managed to come up with the money. Does my 49er Club membership for 12 years plus my rank count for anything?I said last fall this FSL thing had potential problems and that the admin needed to be careful. Theyâre asking a high sum of money for something that quite frankly has little value. They need to re-think the whole process.And I know people have told me, âX, buy 1, or buy 2 FSLâs if thatâs all you can affordâ just to get one/some. Well thatâs all well and good until I have to leave somebody at home on gameday, and itâs stupid to buy 1-2 FSLâs when you know youâre going to need more tickets than that. I know my circumstances are in the minority, but itâs almost like this was not considered when the FSL plan was made.
[QUOTE=bball49er;399260]I said last fall this FSL thing had potential problems and that the admin needed to be careful. Theyâre asking a high sum of money for something that quite frankly has little value. They need to re-think the whole process.[/QUOTE]
good point. and i saw someone mention you have to buy fsls to be able to attend a game. iâm not sure if thatâs the best approach. because it rules out adding new fans.
There are going to be tickets for sale, Iâm sure. People donating their tickets, unused opposing fan seats, unused student tickets, etc. Plus, even at the big time stadiums, they sell more tickets than they have seats. Iâve been to two games at the Swamp and you had a âseatâ but it was on the bleachers and there were about 5 more people than there were seats.
The FSL is basically a donation to start football at Charlotte. If you want football you better buy a FSL! I think this whole incident is proving the character of our fan base. Schools like Clemson, South Carolina, and Auburn donât have problems raising money to build state of the art football facilities. We have people making the lamest excuses why they canât afford a $1000 donation over four years. Are we that poor of a fan base? To sponsor a competitive football program more money is going to be require than just $1000 FSL.
[QUOTE=JaMiNNiNeR;399270]The FSL is basically a donation to start football at Charlotte. If you want football you better buy a FSL! I think this whole incident is proving the character of our fan base. Schools like Clemson, South Carolina, and Auburn donât have problems raising money to build state of the art football facilities. We have people making the lamest excuses why they canât afford a $1000 donation over four years. Are we that poor of a fan base? To sponsor a competitive football program more money is going to be require than just $1000 FSL.[/QUOTE]
Itâs not that we are that poor of a fanbase, per se, but that we are that young of a fanbase. Many of our alumni have a much lessened sense of allegiance to our school athletically because they followed âhigher profileâ programs.
We have fans of all ages, but the highest concentration of true Niners fans are younger than 35 and still building careers, or are still students. For these fans, financial stability and savings accounts are not nearly as great as for those who have been building their careers and financial portfolios for twenty years or so.
The use of Clemson, South Carolina, and Auburn as examples is complete fallacy. All of these schools has around 100 years of football tradition, and have never had to compete with other schools for the affection of their students and alumni as we, sadly, have to. The largest amount of money for these upgrades that they continually build comes from alumni who are over 40, and have built themselves a strong portfolio which can allow them to drop big bucks for their programs.
We are asking our fanbase, our very young fanbase by comparison, to build a program from scratch. They are asking an older, more affluent fanbase to add to an existing and nationally prominent program. Totally different beasts.
[QUOTE=thelew1014;399272]Itâs not that we are that poor of a fanbase, per se, but that we are that young of a fanbase. Many of our alumni have a much lessened sense of allegiance to our school athletically because they followed âhigher profileâ programs.
We have fans of all ages, but the highest concentration of true Niners fans are younger than 35 and still building careers, or are still students. For these fans, financial stability and savings accounts are not nearly as great as for those who have been building their careers and financial portfolios for twenty years or so.
The use of Clemson, South Carolina, and Auburn as examples is complete fallacy. All of these schools has around 100 years of football tradition, and have never had to compete with other schools for the affection of their students and alumni as we, sadly, have to. The largest amount of money for these upgrades that they continually build comes from alumni who are over 40, and have built themselves a strong portfolio which can allow them to drop big bucks for their programs.
We are asking our fanbase, our very young fanbase by comparison, to build a program from scratch. They are asking an older, more affluent fanbase to add to an existing and nationally prominent program. Totally different beasts.[/QUOTE]
Very true Lew. We are asking a very young alumni base to build a program from scratch in the worst economy since the Great Depression. Iâm not happy with the number of pledges that havenât come through at this point but it is what it is. The ball at this point is back in the athletic departments hands. I seriously hope there is a concentrated effort to IMMEDIATELY reach out and pull in many of the donations from those who have not followed through. Reaching out means phone calls, payment plans and expressing a sense of empathy.
[QUOTE=JaMiNNiNeR;399270]The FSL is basically a donation to start football at Charlotte. If you want football you better buy a FSL! I think this whole incident is proving the character of our fan base. Schools like Clemson, South Carolina, and Auburn donât have problems raising money to build state of the art football facilities. We have people making the lamest excuses why they canât afford a $1000 donation over four years. Are we that poor of a fan base? To sponsor a competitive football program more money is going to be require than just $1000 FSL.[/QUOTE]
QFT!!!
[QUOTE=bball49er;399260]I said last fall this FSL thing had potential problems and that the admin needed to be careful. Theyâre asking a high sum of money for something that quite frankly has little value. They need to re-think the whole process.[/QUOTE]
I doubt anything will be changed of the plan at this point. It will be crash-and-burn or cross the finish line. The lack of a tax deduction hurts too, as you canât recover any of this money as you can deduct 80% of your donations to the 49er Club. I havenât heard yet, but I donât think this FSL âdonationâ counts as a 49er Club contribution either. That stings, too.
Hereâs an idea for a payment plan (if you still have a job, that is):
Put it on a credit card. Better yet, go look in your mailbox. Chances are pretty good that in the last few weeks, you have received an offer for 0% interest for XX months. Then make monthly payments.
Thereâs your payment plan. It shouldnât really be that difficult to figure out if you are really dedicated to doing this. If you really never planned on fulfilling your commitment, keep whining about payment plans, the administration, etc. If you plan on fulfilling it, then do it.
Here's an idea for a payment plan (if you still have a job, that is):Put it on a credit card. Better yet, go look in your mailbox. Chances are pretty good that in the last few weeks, you have received an offer for 0% interest for XX months. Then make monthly payments.
Thereâs your payment plan. It shouldnât really be that difficult to figure out if you are really dedicated to doing this. If you really never planned on fulfilling your commitment, keep whining about payment plans, the administration, etc. If you plan on fulfilling it, then do it.
ding, ding, ding, dingâŚ
[QUOTE=Noreaster;399318]Hereâs an idea for a payment plan (if you still have a job, that is):
Put it on a credit card. Better yet, go look in your mailbox. Chances are pretty good that in the last few weeks, you have received an offer for 0% interest for XX months. Then make monthly payments.
Thereâs your payment plan. It shouldnât really be that difficult to figure out if you are really dedicated to doing this. If you really never planned on fulfilling your commitment, keep whining about payment plans, the administration, etc. If you plan on fulfilling it, then do it.[/QUOTE]
Thatâs been mentioned a few times.
FSLs - Positive is itâs good to get something of future value for the $1000. But as X said, negative is you donât get 49er club pts and itâs not tax-deductible. Still, I think itâs the best way to handle this. Hopefully when things turn around people can buy the FSLs they want/need and contribute to the 49er club.
OK, I think Iâve read all of the posts (all threads) on our current FSL situation and I still am a bit puzzled/maybe disappointed. In the Big O article last week it mentioned that CHP only recommended that we move to Plan B and that the board did NOT yet vote on the recommendation (not sure when they will or if they already have and we just havenât heard about it), but Ruth Shawâs editorial stated that we ARE moving ahead with Plan BâŚDoes this mean its official that we are now moving forward with Plan B for CERTAIN? If so, why has there been no press release or info. publicized about this. This would be a MAJOR change, IMO and one that potential FSL holders/fans in general would like to know about. Also, if we have already decided to do this, I am disappointed that we made the decision to not try and build a new stadium before even really beginning to market the team or solicit other private dontations (according to Shawâs editorial). Is no one else disappointed in this? It seems as though weâve given up on the stadium without even trying.
Also, if this is the case, I would love to hear (ATLEAST) that we still intend to build the new stadium at some point in the future.
I want football 1st and foremost ANYWHERE, but I really would like to see a new stadium go up as soon as possible!
[QUOTE=LeftyNiner;399459]Thatâs been mentioned a few times.
FSLs - Positive is itâs good to get something of future value for the $1000. But as X said, negative is you donât get 49er club pts and itâs not tax-deductible. Still, I think itâs the best way to handle this. Hopefully when things turn around people can buy the FSLs they want/need and contribute to the 49er club.[/QUOTE]
Actually FSL money does get you priority points. Here is how it works: Lets say I normally give $500 a year to the 49er club and this year I give my normal $500 and make my first year payment on 4 FLSâs for $1000. Now that does not get me Green Jacket status of $1500, but I do get the points on $1500 which will affect Basketball priority seating.
Good point Jimmy. Unfortunately, that is sort of hidden away at the bottom of the Q&A and one might miss this.
919R, my concern with playing at the soccer stadium is that those seats are far away from the field compared to most stadiums (I know, due to the track). It also probably means that youâre going to have field turf (I wouldnât oppose) or a damn good grounds staff with a football team and two soccer teams playing on it in the fall.
I was surprised when they announced Plan B, because I thought Plan B to build the track stadium into football was Plan A anyway.
And you can move the soccer elsewhere for much cheaper than moving football, & track wonât be there until spring. And Iâm pretty sure the football spring practice would be elsewhere or maybe theyâd move track too.
No Plan A was to build a new FOOTBALL STADIUM at CRI. Now thatâs the long-term goal.
Plan B is to wrap the track in 10,000 temporary bleacher seats. The priority is to get a building on campus to support the program first and a permanent stadium second.
for 9 years on this board thru excellent economic times, I have been saying use Belk Track to start. Give me 5-6 Saturdays a year to tailgate with old friends, at least begin tradition or youâll never have a passionate base.
[QUOTE=metro;399684]for 9 years on this board thru excellent economic times, I have been saying use Belk Track to start. Give me 5-6 Saturdays a year to tailgate with old friends, at least begin tradition or youâll never have a passionate base.[/QUOTE]
S*** metro, we should have had football in 1995 but we didnât and we canât fix it now by looking back. If we can build a new stadium right away great. If we have to play a while at Belk, fine. Letâs just do it already!
AND WHERE THE F*** IS THE ADVERTISING?
I should have seen a commercial on News 14 Carolinas by now!!!
We need a head coach and an Assistant AD for Football by June 1 if not sooner.:49ers: