Think about itâŚ
Whether you endorse his shot selection or not, he doesnât hit that game winning shot (like the shot last year at Old Dominion) if he doesnât shot them as regular as he does in games and practice.
All of those âbadâ shots, prepared him to make this one.
Now, itâs off to tape it onto DVD from C-SET so I can see it this time!!!
Here is an interesting quote from the IU board.
"[b]I liked our offense more than Charlotteâs Reply
Iâve found another coach I want here less than Davis. He can join Lavin, Harrick, Snyder, and Amaker on that list. No offensive discipline at all, just shoot as fast as you can from anywhere with any number guarding you.[/b]"
I like Bobby and I like Plavich. But it does seem as if some discipline is needed. Iâm not sure what the answer is.
I donât think itâs any mystery that Bobby gives these guys too much freedom to shoot the long ball. There arenât many coaches that are going to put that much faith into their shooters the way Lutz does. Sometimes it can win you games and sometimes it will kill you, hence the âlive/die by the 3â cliche. In my personal opinion, I think there is a lack of disclipine on this team and I see it in areas other than just us coming down and jacking up ill-advised shots but I guess Bobby believes in their ability to make them. I thought when we made a serious effort to pound the ball inside, late in the game, it was effective but how many times did we come down and fire up a poor perimeter shot with the shot clock still at 20+?
As huge of a shot as that was that Plav made, I think he gives away too many other opportunities to score by forcing bad shots. When heâs hot, like at Davidson, then I want him shooting everytime he touches the ball. But when his shot isnât there, itâs like Lutz wants him to shoot his way out of it. Thatâs not always a good thing because it can result in a lot of trips down the court the other way.
I donât want to dwell on the negatives of our perimeter play after a win like that but should be acknowledged. Iâm just thrilled to escape with a shocking win.
You are pouring cold water on my game night erectionâŚWait til tomorrow.
âFetch me my baggy pantsâŚIm taking this one into townâ
[i]Originally posted by JKniner[/i]@Dec 22 2004, 11:17 PM [b] You are pouring cold water on my game night erection...Wait til tomorrow. [/b]How many times I told the ex-wife that over the years. :lol:
[b]All of those 'bad' shots, prepared him to make this one.[/b]
Maybe if he didnât miss so many, we wouldnât need him to make a game winning shot.?
Catch 22 maybe
Except, he hits a high % when he doesnât take poor shots. And he hits a lot of them.
Plav may have won the game, but missing 12 shots (6-18 6-17 from 3pt land) hurts a lot. Take 6 less poor shots, and turn those into 3 assists, 6 more points, no need for the 3-ball at the end of the game. Did we get any rebounds off of his misses tonight?
[i]Originally posted by Powerbait[/i]@Dec 23 2004, 12:33 AM [b] Except, he hits a high % when he doesn't take poor shots. And he hits a lot of them.Plav may have won the game, but missing 12 shots (6-18 6-17 from 3pt land) hurts a lot. Take 6 less poor shots, and turn those into 3 assists, 6 more points, no need for the 3-ball at the end of the game. Did we get any rebounds off of his misses tonight? [/b]
Plav is the DAve Kingman of college hoops.
1982: King Kong .204, 48 homers. Steve CArlton, Cy YOung winner that year, out hit him .208.
Thatâs Plav in a nutshell.
Agree about Plavâs shot selection tonight, but it was because our post players were so bad. Plav shot more because of the poor play of our go-to post players.
Eddie, Curt and Iti were a COMBINED 8-25 (Post players USUALLY shot 50% or betterâŚright?) with 9 of our 16 TurnOvers (Withers had 7).
Our Post Play was far worse than PlavâsâŚand thatâs saying something!!!
Thank you for those statistics KTown. People always point at Plav, but 8 for 25 from our inside game? That % is no better than Plavs 3 point % was. 7 turnovers by one player inside. Seems to me that Plav isnât the only reason we lose ballgames and it is ridiculous to continually point to one player as being responsible for the niners losses. Sometimes I think âfansâ expectations are greater than players abilities.
Yes the inside guys had a tough night, not just the missed shots but they had a lot of fumbles.
When ever Withers got the ball, even a rebound on the offensive end, they would swarm him, at least twice 4 guys collapsed on him once he touched the ball.
[i]Originally posted by Powerbait[/i]@Dec 23 2004, 12:33 AM [b]Except, he hits a high % when he doesn't take poor shots. And he hits a lot of them.Plav may have won the game, but missing 12 shots (6-18 6-17 from 3pt land) hurts a lot. Take 6 less poor shots, and turn those into 3 assists, 6 more points, no need for the 3-ball at the end of the game. Did we get any rebounds off of his misses tonight?[/b]
As for your boy, who I am not knocking, Eddie, was 3 for 12. Seems to me that is 25 %. And the total team shooting for the night was 39.4 %. Eddie missed 75% of his shots. Plavich missed 66% of his shots.
You also did not mention Withers 7 turnovers and 0-2 free throws, Goldwires 3-7 free throws or Iti 1 rebound, o points. Just canât understand why it is always Plavich that you all dislike so much and try to always put down.
You guys need to cool it. Plavich makes a shot, be it a prayer or not, and it kills you to see him get the highlights. Just doesnât make sense, Plavich is a Niner and plays with Charlotte on his uniform. Charlotte won and you are trying to put down the player who contributed to that win. Let it go at that, instead of always trying to find fault with him.
I wish plav could be more consistent but if he is going to come alive when we need him most and nail 3 threes including a halfcourt bomb Iâll take it, you canât find clutch players that easy.
Well said 49erforever.
[b]Plavich winning the game with that shot is just killing you guys that dislike him so much.[/b]
This statement is absurd. Just because I think he is the âgreat white hypeâ doesnât mean I root against the guy. He is still a Niner.
Amen foreverâŚget off the guys ass. Iâm not sure any of yall BP bashers heard but we WON last night. And if he gets us a point per shot that he takes that traditionally is a good thing. And look at all the attention he draws. If we donât have the threat of his three how much more of our oppenents strategy is geared to stopping others. Does Curt then get doubled? Who would score then???
Embrace the winâŚhe is the number one or two option on this team and that is not going to change this year. Start supporting who we areâŚnot who we arenât.( I stole that from HoosiersâŚthought it was fitting). Yall are like the guy that dates the real hot girl but you think her ass is a little big.
Ridiculous that we had to be a talent-less team like Indiana (save Wright) on a last second shot. It shouldnât have come down to that. Basically, itâs Plav gunning it all night long. The post guys didnât get a chance to set up 95% of the night. It just sucks that we have to rely on the 3 so much. And Iâm not even going to go in to how Indiana broke us down all night long while we were supposedly playing DâŚ
Oh well, a win is a win and our âstyleâ is our styleâŚI guess weâre going to have to live with it, but that doesnât mean Iâm happy about it.
[b]Agree about Plav's shot selection tonight, but it was because our post players were so bad. Plav shot more because of the poor play of our go-to post players.[/b]
Absolutely. We had about 3-4 possessions in a row when IU took the lead where I donât think we even got a shot. Whithers was butterfingers all night, and he has to learn to get rid of the ball faster when the double and triple teams come. We can get wide open threeâs if weâll just kick it out and around a little quicker. When Plavich was on the bench we had almost no offense. Smart teams like IU know that we have no major outside threat without him in the game, and they forced the turnovers and bad shots to prove it when Plav wasnât in the game. Several of Plavâs âbadâ shots rimmed in before bouncing out. We were not going to win that game without him, and thatâs not just because we all know he made a 50-footer at the buzzer.