i was reading through the niners media guide the other day and saw that the last time we retired a number was back in 2000 and was wondering who might be in consideration for the next niner retired number. i was thinking maybe jobby thomas but what process does the school do to retire numbers or is it up to judy rose??? just a thought
hasnāt been a niner deserving enough in recent history. at least imo
Off the top of my head, you have to be way up in there in career scoring, all conference multiple times, conference player of the year, being the captain of a Final Four team helps.
Jobey had a nice career, but Curtis Withers and Eddie would be ahead of him to get it retired. Iām with Anborn, they donāt deserve it. We might have jumped the gun on Byron Dinkins and maybe Jarvis, in hindsight. Iāve met both guys out and about, really cool down to earth dudes. You have to be really special to have it retired, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Mike Niner Hunt;289340]Off the top of my head, you have to be way up in there in career scoring, all conference multiple times, conference player of the year, being the captain of a Final Four team helps.
Jobey had a nice career, but Curtis Withers and Eddie would be ahead of him to get it retired. Iām with Anborn, they donāt deserve it. We might have jumped the gun on Byron Dinkins and maybe Jarvis, in hindsight. Iāve met both guys out and about, really cool down to earth dudes. You have to be really special to have it retired, IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Byron deserves it 100% for putting us back on the map. Jarvis was a beast before injuries slowed him. His freshmen year was unbelievable. Had Rod stayed around he would have been retired.
Someone in another thread was talking about UNC-CHās system of āhonoringā jerseys. They have a zillion jerseys in the rafters, but only 5 or 6 are retired.
Hereās something like what I would like to see:
Retired: Watkins, Maxwell, Williams, Hayward
Honored: Dinkins, Lang, DeMarco, Withers, Thomas, Basden, Galen, Guevara, Massey, King, Kinch
There are specific requirements, but from my memory of these threads in the past it was mentioned for consideration that the player had to be named āAll-Americanā on some publicationās team (AP, USAToday, etc.). Heyward, of course, is the ultimate exception. None of the players mentioned above were named that. Iām sure there are other requirements too, but I have not seen them in print.
Someone in another thread was talking about UNC-CH's system of "honoring" jerseys. They have a zillion jerseys in the rafters, but only 5 or 6 are retired.Hereās something like what I would like to see:
Retired: Watkins, Maxwell, Williams, Hayward
Honored: Dinkins, Lang, DeMarco, Withers, Thomas, Basden, Galen, Guevara, Massey, King, Kinch
I think some (if not all but Hayward) have been āretiredā but really āhonoredā since guys are still allowed to wear the numbers that were āretiredā Except for 42, of course.
Correct me if Iām wrong on this, but thatās what I thought it wasā¦we were calling it retiring the number but it was more like honoring.
[QUOTE=spartyniner;289390]I think some (if not all but Hayward) have been āretiredā but really āhonoredā since guys are still allowed to wear the numbers that were āretiredā Except for 42, of course.
Correct me if Iām wrong on this, but thatās what I thought it wasā¦we were calling it retiring the number but it was more like honoring.[/QUOTE]
I donāt knowā¦ I donāt think anyone since Iāve started school (2001) has worn 4, 23, 32, 33, 34, or 45.
[QUOTE=spartyniner;289390]I think some (if not all but Hayward) have been āretiredā but really āhonoredā since guys are still allowed to wear the numbers that were āretiredā Except for 42, of course.
Correct me if Iām wrong on this, but thatās what I thought it wasā¦we were calling it retiring the number but it was more like honoring.[/QUOTE]
DeMarco, to my knowledge, is the only one that got to wear any of the numbers on the wall after they were retired. He only got to because Dinkās was not yet retired when he arrived at Charlotte, so they let him keep wearing it until he finished. Low and behold, he was deserving also. HP and others could verify if any of the other numbers were worn before they were retired (i.e. between the time the players finished and their number was retired).
Iāve said it before, I donāt think any school should āretireā numbers. Eventually, you will run out of numbers if you have enough worthy players. There are only 42 numbers that you can put on jerseys. We already have 6 that are retired, and we are a relatively young program. That being said, Charles Heyward would be my one exception and I would argue with anybody that thought otherwise about that.
X beat me to it. What he said.
[QUOTE=X-49er;289399]Iāve said it before, I donāt think any school should āretireā numbers. Eventually, you will run out of numbers if you have enough worthy players. There are only 42 numbers that you can put on jerseys. We already have 6 that are retired, and we are a relatively young program. That being said, Charles Heyward would be my one exception and I would argue with anybody that thought otherwise about that.[/QUOTE]
How do the Celtics manage to put numbers on their jerseys? I guess it helps that in the NBA, youāre not limited to numbers that end in 1-5.
Thereās actually only 32 numbers you can put on a jersey in high school and college, so we have even fewer available.
[QUOTE=X-49er;289354]There are specific requirements, but from my memory of these threads in the past it was mentioned for consideration that the player had to be named āAll-Americanā on some publicationās team (AP, USAToday, etc.). Heyward, of course, is the ultimate exception. None of the players mentioned above were named that. Iām sure there are other requirements too, but I have not seen them in print.[/QUOTE]
Cedric Maxwell was named UPI 3rd team All-American in 1977. Joining him on the 3rd team were Larry Bird (Indiana State), Kenny Carr (NC State), Rod Griffin (Wake Forest), and Freeman Williams (Portland State).
There's actually only 32 numbers you can put on a jersey in high school and college, so we have even fewer available.
Arenāt there 36?
[QUOTE=UNCCTF;289411]How do the Celtics manage to put numbers on their jerseys? I guess it helps that in the NBA, youāre not limited to numbers that end in 1-5.
Thereās actually only 32 numbers you can put on a jersey in high school and college, so we have even fewer available.[/QUOTE]
In the NBA you are not limited to 0-5. In college your are. There are 42 numbers:
00,[B][COLOR=DarkGreen]01,02,03,04,05[/COLOR][/B]
0,1,2,3,4,5
10,11,12,13,14,15
20,21,22,23,24,25
30,31,32,33,34,35
40,41,42,43,44,45
50,51,52,53,54,55
I have never seen the numbers in bold green used, but they are legal numbers.
[QUOTE=run49er;289419]Cedric Maxwell was named UPI 3rd team All-American in 1977. Joining him on the 3rd team were Larry Bird (Indiana State), Kenny Carr (NC State), Rod Griffin (Wake Forest), and Freeman Williams (Portland State).[/QUOTE]
I meant the players that were āup for considerationā in this thread. The ones already on the wall should have met that requirement except for Heyward, and I thought they all did. Sorry for the confusion.
In the NBA you are not limited to 0-5. In college your are. There are 42 numbers:00,[COLOR=darkgreen]01,02,03,04,05[/COLOR]
0,1,2,3,4,5
10,11,12,13,14,15
20,21,22,23,24,25
30,31,32,33,34,35
40,41,42,43,44,45
50,51,52,53,54,55I have never seen the numbers in bold green used, but they are legal numbers.
Ok, so ā00ā is different from ā0ā and so on? I wasnāt sure.
[QUOTE=kevinharbin;289420]Arenāt there 36?[/QUOTE]
37 if you count 0 and double 0.
nm, X has pointed out a few more.
[QUOTE=X-49er;289422]In the NBA you are not limited to 0-5. In college your are. There are 42 numbers:
00,[B][COLOR=DarkGreen]01,02,03,04,05[/COLOR][/B]
0,1,2,3,4,5
10,11,12,13,14,15
20,21,22,23,24,25
30,31,32,33,34,35
40,41,42,43,44,45
50,51,52,53,54,55
I have never seen the numbers in bold green used, but they are legal numbers.[/QUOTE]
When I was counting the numbers up I somehow forgot 10,20,30,40,50. I suck.
According to [URL]http://www.usabasketball.com/rules/rules.html[/URL] 01, 02 etc arenāt allowed.
00, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 52, 52, 53, 54, 55
[QUOTE=kevinharbin;289426]According to [URL]http://www.usabasketball.com/rules/rules.html[/URL] 01, 02 etc arenāt allowed.
00, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 52, 52, 53, 54, 55[/QUOTE]
So I win!
[QUOTE=ChevEE;289424]37 if you count 0 and double 0.[/QUOTE]
So I win!
Unless they are wrong too. They state that half time in NCAA is ā15 mihe nutesā