Student Secction Solution

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I started a new thread, because this is for soulutions not bickering. Im stating my ideas and let me know what you guys think. First let me say ive sat in 104,105 and the upper level. In the upper level its dark and isolated and you dont feel like you are in a bball arena. Theyre are students up there who want to be loud but when you feel like you are in a dark cave its hard too, and they may not have time to get to the game 3 hours early for 104 or 105. So here are my ideas:

  1. Lights in the upper level of the arena/better lighting
  2. Move the player benches to the other side of the arena
  3. the student sections should be 103-105, 131 and 111, and 201-207. Eliminate 106, 108, 132, 209, 210, 232 and 233 from the student section. No student wants to sit in the corners, especially the corners of the cave.
  4. Parents/professors should not be allowed to sit in 103-105 and 111 and 131, you dont see mom and dad sittin with the Cameron Crazies. i dont have a problem with Alumni in those sections if they are going to be loud, especially young alumni.

All these things to me will change the atmosphere. Ive attended several schools, and I worked for the athletic dept at UNCA including traveling with the baseball team. And based on that is how I came up with these ideas. I am willing to get a movement started to change these things if enough people agree with me. Its time to stop talking and get together and do something.

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I posted this idea earlier, but didn’t receive any input on its feasibility. How could it be worked so that the chants could be displayed on the scoreboard or possibly even the baseline screens? If the chants were displayed then all of the students would have no excuse for not knowing which chant was being yelled. (Except ignorance, which shouldn’t be tolerated.)

It seems to work when the cheerleaders hold up the [glow=green,2,300]40… [/glow]and [glow=green,2,300]9ers[/glow] signs, so why not step it up a level to where the cheerleaders can’t go?

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We get money for ads on those LCDs. I really can’t imagine them passing up revenue to put chants on there.

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benches aren’t going to be moved. Parents should not be allowed in the student section on the lower level. Keep it young and loud.

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Lots of dollars, and the boards were not cheap to purchase.

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Yea the reason I said move the benches is because isnt it true that students cant sit behind the visitors bench? if so that would screw up the 103 idea. Either way 104 and 105, 111 and 131 works too.

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I believe there only has to be a couple rows of buffer between the students and visitors bench. That may have been a CUSA rule though, not sure if the A10 has a similar rule.

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Well, I like it somewhat, but this does bring up something that I would kind of like to see.

Let me preface this by saying that I understand a lot of students come to games and sit in the upper level because they want to enjoy the game, and not yell and scream and stand the whole game. That is more than fine with me. The way I have always looked at it is that the upper level is for enjoying the game, and the lower level is for being a lunatic.

So, first… move the benches. I totally agree. If we (the students) are going to remain on the side of the court, then we really need to take up the entire side of the court. Nobody wants to sit in section 103, where they can’t see the other side of the court because of everybody standing beside them.

If you’ll notice at the next game, the top five rows of 102-106 are all permanent seats on concrete. Below that are retractable seats. Here is what I would like to see happen:

In those five sections, the retractable seats are left closed, and risers are put in their place for the students. The lower level student section then becomes one long section on the floor… no seats, just room for students to stand. I believe that this alone would create a more rowdy student section.

Those permanent seats above them should then be given to the alumni/community side as season tickets, similar to the lower level seats across from them. Taking out the seats and installing risers would allow for the top row of the student section to not interfere with the view of the bottom row of the alumni section above it.

The lunatics get their insane asylum, the alumni/community gets more lower level seats, and the enjoy-the-game students keep their spot to do just that.

Everybody wins.

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[quote=“charlotteguy88, post:1, topic:22518”]1) Lights in the upper level of the arena/better lighting
2) Move the player benches to the other side of the arena
3) the student sections should be 103-105, 131 and 111, and 201-207. Eliminate 106, 108, 132, 209, 210, 232 and 233 from the student section. No student wants to sit in the corners, especially the corners of the cave.
4) Parents/professors should not be allowed to sit in 103-105 and 111 and 131, you dont see mom and dad sittin with the Cameron Crazies. i dont have a problem with Alumni in those sections if they are going to be loud, especially young alumni.[/quote]
1.) I’ve not seen upper levels in any arena I’ve visited with lights on during a contest. It might not be at dark as Halton in them. They may have some sort of lighting before and at halftime but not during.
2.) Bench is on that side of the arena for television purposes.
3 & 4) Not gonna get into the seating issues here but my personal opinion is that more lower level seats should be available for revenue.

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It will take a special donor to pay money and sit 3 rows in front of the student section for an entire year.

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[quote=“charlotteguy88, post:1, topic:22518”]I started a new thread, because this is for soulutions not bickering. Im stating my ideas and let me know what you guys think. First let me say ive sat in 104,105 and the upper level. In the upper level its dark and isolated and you dont feel like you are in a bball arena. Theyre are students up there who want to be loud but when you feel like you are in a dark cave its hard too, and they may not have time to get to the game 3 hours early for 104 or 105. So here are my ideas:

  1. Lights in the upper level of the arena/better lighting
  2. Move the player benches to the other side of the arena
  3. the student sections should be 103-105, 131 and 111, and 201-207. Eliminate 106, 108, 132, 209, 210, 232 and 233 from the student section. No student wants to sit in the corners, especially the corners of the cave.
  4. Parents/professors should not be allowed to sit in 103-105 and 111 and 131, you dont see mom and dad sittin with the Cameron Crazies. i dont have a problem with Alumni in those sections if they are going to be loud, especially young alumni.

All these things to me will change the atmosphere. Ive attended several schools, and I worked for the athletic dept at UNCA including traveling with the baseball team. And based on that is how I came up with these ideas. I am willing to get a movement started to change these things if enough people agree with me. Its time to stop talking and get together and do something.[/quote]

  1. Likely not going to happen because it’s easier to view the action with the seating areas dimmed.
  2. Don’t see that happening unless the media setup is completely changed, but not a bad idea. Also would screw up 102, which is where the visiting team’s “comp” tickets usually are.
  3. Likely won’t happen because of the student fee agreement when Halton was built. Students would have to petition to get that changed, and even then it may not be changed.
  4. 103 will only revert back to students if the benches are moved. Several incidents forced the admin to remove the students from 103, and they won’t be going back so long as the visiting team is seated in front of that section. As for parents sitting in lower level sections of the student section, that would have to be stated in the student ticket agreement to grant “upper level only” to non-student visitors.
It seems to work when the cheerleaders hold up the [table][tr][td][b]40... [/b][/q][/t]and [table][tr][td][b]9ers[/b][/t] signs, so why not step it up a level to where the cheerleaders can't go? [/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table]

Here’s a novel idea: why not have the cheerleaders actually lead cheers? Isn’t that what they are there for? I hear them responding more to student-led cheers than leading any.

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[quote=“Lew, post:8, topic:22518”]Well, I like it somewhat, but this does bring up something that I would kind of like to see.

Let me preface this by saying that I understand a lot of students come to games and sit in the upper level because they want to enjoy the game, and not yell and scream and stand the whole game. That is more than fine with me. The way I have always looked at it is that the upper level is for enjoying the game, and the lower level is for being a lunatic.

So, first… move the benches. I totally agree. If we (the students) are going to remain on the side of the court, then we really need to take up the entire side of the court. Nobody wants to sit in section 103, where they can’t see the other side of the court because of everybody standing beside them.

If you’ll notice at the next game, the top five rows of 102-106 are all permanent seats on concrete. Below that are retractable seats. Here is what I would like to see happen:

In those five sections, the retractable seats are left closed, and risers are put in their place for the students. The lower level student section then becomes one long section on the floor… no seats, just room for students to stand. I believe that this alone would create a more rowdy student section.

Those permanent seats above them should then be given to the alumni/community side as season tickets, similar to the lower level seats across from them. Taking out the seats and installing risers would allow for the top row of the student section to not interfere with the view of the bottom row of the alumni section above it.

The lunatics get their insane asylum, the alumni/community gets more lower level seats, and the enjoy-the-game students keep their spot to do just that.

Everybody wins.[/quote]
Never noticed that the are retractable seats, other wise i would have said something like that. I like your idea alot

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I actually really like Lew’s idea of leaving the retractable seats closed and putting in risers for students.

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C-Pip for 2010-2011 cheerleading squad! The are in desperate need of a ginger.

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X, I think the agreement with the students was only to provide them with 4500 seats, not 4500 specific seats. Risers would be a wonderful idea, except that you would have to change the entire flow of entry to the risers and that would impede the tunnel and elephant door entrances. It works at Duke and NC State because they have lower entry…

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Ah-haaaah. I did not know the language, but I knew that they have to get half of the seats. Lew’s idea could work, but there would be several things that would also need solutions.

  • Where would the media (radio,TV, and newspaper) folks be placed if the benches are moved to the alumni side? You can’t put them on the student side because of the risers and because it would be too loud.

  • Where do you then put the visiting team’s comp tickets? They could still go behind the bench, but that would displace some current season ticket holders to the other side, or farther back from the floor. Could lead to some issues with the paying customers not happy about having to give up their seats.

  • If 4500 tickets still have to be provided to the students, where are you going to put the rest of the seats now that a) you’ve got alumni in the top 5 rows of the lower level of the student section and b ) the TV cameras will likely take up another 30-45 seats in the upper level of the student section since the benches have been moved across the court?

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I’m out. Is the student section stuff working? I dunno, when I was a student, the thought of having a Halton Arena was a wet dream.

Now its here, the students get an insane number of tickets, yet the general public (frequently referred to by the term “Alumni”) in the area would rather sit in front of their flat screen TV’s at home watching ACC shit instead of getting off their asses and demonstrating what great hoops fans that are assumed to be.

We have mediocre marketing, because we are revenue constrained, among other things, yet we piss away too many revenue generating possibilities inside the Arena because we have to focus on the students first. No doubt the students are important, but damn it, sometime, somehow the AD has to realize they undergenerating revenue from Halton Arena.

I give as much as I can, yet I continue to be stuck upstairs because I haven’t given enough. Some people think I shouldn’t be in the lower level because there is a fear I may not yell enough.

Well then, enough with all of this.

I’m out.

From now on, I have a new goal in life. Supporting my alma mater has been replaced with being the world’s best curling fan.

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Is it required that the cameras face the benches?

Joe, what’s that all about? We’re just tossing shit around…

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We could do like they do at Vanderbilt and have the benches in the end zones…

http://vucommodores.cstv.com/facilities/memorial-gym.html

They have a strange setup there…

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[quote=“Lew, post:18, topic:22518”]Is it required that the cameras face the benches?

Joe, what’s that all about? We’re just tossing s*** around…[/quote]

Don’t know if it’s “required”, but you don’t want to have to get shots of the coach from the floor level all the time. There are some arenas that have the main cameras on the same side as the bench, but they also have one positioned somewhere opposite the benches to show the coaches/bench when needed. That onw would have to be placed on the track or somewhere in the upper level.