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You go ahead and wait for the school to do all the work. Enjoy watching other teams on Saturdays.

Hell, I’ve been waiting for ten years since I spoke with Judy Rose at the Spoons in Denver about football.

The school doesn’t even know how to reach out to it’s own alumni.

Has the school contacted Matt Michealwicz? Founder of SolveIT software? former founder of NuTech Solutions. Spoke to him the other day, NO ONE has contacted him about Football giving.

I encourage all of Niner Nation to voice your support to all corporate donors such as Lowe’s. We, being the customer is what keeps these companies in business, and trust me, that is what companies are thinking these days.

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I’ve already decided the football movement is dead. A few of CHP’s highest subordinates are against the idea and he has done nothing to prove to me that he is even straddling the fence, regardless of what he sometimes says.

Football or not, a change in leadership is due now.

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You go ahead and wait for the school to do all the work. Enjoy watching other teams on Saturdays.

Obviously you missed my point. There is nothing for the school to fund raise for…yet. They have to gauge support from these corporations, which I would guess is happening as part of the exploration. But the school isn’t going to commit it’s full fundraising resources to raise funds for a sport it doesn’t even have yet. They have to focus on funding our exisiting programs.

The school doesn't even know how to reach out to it's own alumni.

I would disagree. The people that fund raise for the athletic foundation do a very good job getting funds in to support our existing sports. They work very hard.

Has the school contacted Matt Michealwicz? Founder of SolveIT software? former founder of NuTech Solutions. Spoke to him the other day, NO ONE has contacted him about Football giving.

Perhaps because there’s nothing for him to give to?

Grassroots support is what got this whole thing to point it is today. A decision is coming now, one way or the other.

But personally I would prefer if you and others wouldn’t bash the hard working people we have fund raising for us now for our existing sports. You have no clue how hard they work to get money for sports. If you did, you wouldn’t disrespect them.

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It's important to distinguish who does what. CHP and the trustees make the decisions, but we have people who work for the school that do the fund raising that are good people and do a very good job.

If we get the go, I have no doubt they can do the leg work to get the dollars.

MK, CHP has made it clear that his recommendation on football will be directly related to his “funding discussions” with the leaders of the largest Charlotte corps. (I assume BoA, Wachovia, Lowes, etc.). Therefore, our “football fundraising” rests on the puny shoulders and outgoing personality of CHP!..Sure, I’m very confident…
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MK, CHP has made it clear that his recommendation on football will be directly related to his "funding discussions" with the leaders of the largest Charlotte corps. (I assume BoA, Wachovia, Lowes, etc.). Therefore, our "football fundraising" rests on the puny shoulders and outgoing personality of CHP!.........Sure, I'm very confident................. :doh:

I share your concern. But I wasn’t talking about CHP.

He’s gauging support right now, supposedly. Not raising money.

All I’m saying is, for big wig donors, we should’t inundate them emails from people not associated with the school. It could have the opposite effect than what we want.

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[QUOTE=MKNiner;327312]Obviously you missed my point. There is nothing for the school to fund raise for…yet. They have to gauge support from these corporations, which I would guess is happening as part of the exploration. But the school isn’t going to commit it’s full fundraising resources to raise funds for a sport it doesn’t even have yet. They have to focus on funding our exisiting programs.

I would disagree. The people that fund raise for the athletic foundation do a very good job getting funds in to support our existing sports. They work very hard.

Perhaps because there’s nothing for him to give to?

Grassroots support is what got this whole thing to point it is today. A decision is coming now, one way or the other.

But personally I would prefer if you and others wouldn’t bash the hard working people we have fund raising for us now for our existing sports. You have no clue how hard they work to get money for sports. If you did, you wouldn’t disrespect them.[/QUOTE]

Im sorry, I have to disrespect someone if I have to call 3 times to get a application and to find out how to get my company match to go to the athletic fund. I graduated from Charlotte and have yet to recieve ANY kind of athletic fundraising material. It’s been 8 years… Disrespect is a nice way to put it…

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Im sorry, I have to disrespect someone if I have to call 3 times to get a application to donate money. I graduated from Charlotte and have yet to recieve ANY kind of athletic fundraising material. It's been 8 years... Disrespect is a nice way to put it...

When I graduated I bought season tickets, joined the 49er club and haven’t missed a mailer since. That was 1999.

The people who work for the foundation work hard. Until you make the effort to meet them and understand that, you ought to save your venom for people who aren’t die hard 49ers like these folks are.

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[QUOTE=MKNiner;327321]When I graduated I bought season tickets, joined the 49er club and haven’t missed a mailer since. That was 1999.

The people who work for the foundation work hard. Until you make the effort to meet them and understand that, you ought to save your venom for people who aren’t die hard 49ers like these folks are.[/QUOTE]

The foundation needs to work harder. What about the other 20,000 alum, that got jobs 4 years after graduating and can finally start to give? They are out there lost with no direction. You sound as if you are somewhat connected with the foundation. if so, you need to get a good look from the outside…

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The foundation needs to work harder. What about the other 20,000 alum, that got jobs 4 years after graduating and can finally start to give? They are out there lost with no direction. You sound as if you are somewhat connected with the foundation. if so, you need to get a good look from the outside....

Given the fact that you have absolutely no clue how hard they work now I find it funny you’d decree they need to work harder.

The only thing that “connects” me to the foundation is my degree and my donation. If you doubt that feel free to contact any regular here. They’ll be happy to confirm I don’t work for the school.

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I share your concern. But I wasn't talking about CHP.

He’s gauging support right now, supposedly. Not raising money.

All I’m saying is, for big wig donors, we should’t inundate them emails from people not associated with the school. It could have the opposite effect than what we want.

Well, unfortunately your “hard-working” friends may not get a chance to do their work if Phil can’t atleast get some positive feedback first (in his opinion). So, Phil’s “skills” are the most important ones right now!

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Given the fact that you have absolutely no clue how hard they work now I find it funny you'd decree they need to work harder.

The only thing that “connects” me to the foundation is my degree and my donation. If you doubt that feel free to contact any regular here. They’ll be happy to confirm I don’t work for the school.

MK, I’m not going to completely pile on to our fundraisers, but you must admit that something is wrong with the way the school (whatever individuals you want to give responsibility to) handles, promotes, markets itself. Especially in the area of fundraising, both for academics and athletics. Now, who’s to blame. We can argue that all day, but clearly somebody is NOT performing at a very high level! Bottom line, there is NO EXCUSE for any alumni to not receive solicitations for donations (at the very least). In this day and age, it is not that hard to track down mailing addresses for people already in your computers. We can’t expect most people to give if they’re not even asked! Our fundraising efforts need to be completely revamped, IMO!

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Well, unfortunately your "hard-working" friends may not get a chance to do their work if Phil can't atleast get some positive feedback first (in his opinion). So, Phil's "skills" are the most important ones right now!

Um, ok.

I don’t think we’re really disagreeing about that.

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Um, ok.

I don’t think we’re really disagreeing about that.

um, ok…your earlier post seemed to indicate that we have nothing to worry about because our “people” will handle it. Well, Phil is one of our “people” isn’t he?..Tell me again why I should be OK letting our “people” bring in the $$$!

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MK, I'm not going to completely pile on to our fundraisers, but you must admit that something is wrong with the way the school (whatever individuals you want to give responsibility to) handles, promotes, markets itself. Especially in the area of fundraising, both for academics and athletics. Now, who's to blame. We can argue that all day, but clearly somebody is NOT performing at a very high level! Bottom line, there is NO EXCUSE for any alumni to not receive solicitations for donations (at the very least). In this day and age, it is not that hard to track down mailing addresses for people already in your computers. We can't expect most people to give if they're not even asked! Our fundraising efforts need to be completely revamped, IMO!

There is a huge problem with the way the school markets itself. It’s being referred to as UNC Charlotte instead of The University of Charlotte. That alone is our biggest problem, and is something the people at the foundation can do little about.

As far as the level goes, our first priority is to fund our existing programs and scholarships. It has to be. Not fund raising for a team that doesn’t even exist yet.

I’m not positve but I tend to believe hateappstate’s experience is the exception not the rule.

Taking a look at our student ambivalence is a good gauge of the alumni lack of interest. How many students do we see with tarhole, state and duke gear on? How many of our students routinely attend basketball, our highest profile team? If people don’t make a connection with their school while they attend it, they’re not going to give to it once they’ve left it. Only recently have we begun getting a larger generational fan/student base.

The way we need to market our university can’t happen because we can’t change our name. You can’t get blood from a turnip guys. And much of our alumni base is one big baby blue turnip.

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um, ok.....your earlier post seemed to indicate that we have nothing to worry about because our "people" will handle it. Well, Phil is one of our "people" isn't he?.....Tell me again why I should be OK letting our "people" bring in the $$$!

It didn’t indicate anything of the kind. And I clarified who and what I was talking about.

If you want to spend your time bashing the people who work day and night to generate money for our sports and fund our scholarships be my guest. But they have a job to do. Raising money for a team that doesn’t even exist yet isn’t among them.

It’s CHP’s job to gauge the corporate support, not our folks that are responsible for getting funding for our existing scholarships. Bashing them for something that’s not even their job is, to me at least, rather pathetic.

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[QUOTE=HP49er;327311]I’ve already decided the football movement is dead. A few of CHP’s highest subordinates are against the idea and he has done nothing to prove to me that he is even straddling the fence, regardless of what he sometimes says.

Football or not, a change in leadership is due now.[/QUOTE]

Not (yet) convinced that football is dead. However, I do think the scales are tilted a little more against than in favor of the sport.

Bigger issue is CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP.

We need someone whose #1 Priority is UNC Charlotte. From what I read, Bonnie Cone had “it”. As I said in another thread, the Chancellor at ECU had “it” when certain people didn’t want a med school in Greenville, NC. He made it happen.

I heard Phil, in person, say approx. a year ago that the school needs to do a better job at connecting with the city. I wholeheartedly agree, but I’ve seen no proof, yet.

I attended a meeting where the head of the Charlotte Research Institute spoke. The 1st thing he said was that too many people perceive UNC Charlotte as a regional commuter campus.

The school is 1000x better than its public perception. I just wish someone would just grab the ball and run with it. Sure things won’t change overnight, but I see too much of the same thing I saw when Phil took over.

Football is not the be all, end all. BUT it will help a great deal. If for no other reason than the simple fact that someone will have to sell the value of this school to the local business community to make football a reality.

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I’m not positve but I tend to believe hateappstate’s experience is the exception not the rule.

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I tend to agree with you. However, I do recall a conversation about the quarterly alumni magazine where I was told it would only go to active contributors. It was one time during an Annual Fund solicitation.

I thought that decision was absolutely insane. It was a perfect way to cut off any connection with the rest of the alums.

I’ve been an active contributor on the academic and/or athletic side for several years now, so I don’t know if the dumb rule is still in place.

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Silvio, the circulation of the quarterly UNC Charlotte magazine was cut from 75,000 copies down to 10,000.

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[QUOTE=SilvioDante;327331]Not (yet) convinced that football is dead. However, I do think the scales are tilted a little more against than in favor of the sport.

Bigger issue is CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP.

We need someone whose #1 Priority is UNC Charlotte. From what I read, Bonnie Cone had “it”. As I said in another thread, the Chancellor at ECU had “it” when certain people didn’t want a med school in Greenville, NC. He made it happen.

I heard Phil, in person, say approx. a year ago that the school needs to do a better job at connecting with the city. I wholeheartedly agree, but I’ve seen no proof, yet.

I attended a meeting where the head of the Charlotte Research Institute spoke. The 1st thing he said was that too many people perceive UNC Charlotte as a regional commuter campus.

The school is 1000x better than its public perception. I just wish someone would just grab the ball and run with it. Sure things won’t change overnight, but I see too much of the same thing I saw when Phil took over.

Football is not the be all, end all. BUT it will help a great deal. If for no other reason than the simple fact that someone will have to sell the value of this school to the local business community to make football a reality.[/QUOTE]

This is one of the main areas where I feel that Metro’s “we need one of our own in charge,” mantra is resoundingly true. We need someone who is of UNC Charlotte and for UNC CHarlotte before we can become the University of Charlotte. I think there is a lot of untapped potential for the school, just like so many other people do, but we’re not getting the people in place to make it happen at the top. I don’t think Phil knew what he was getting into, nor was he prepared for it. He probably thought this was just going to be another Chancellor’s job for just another chancellor.

I’d love to have his job for one year. I don’t know if I could do it any better, but I sure would love to try.

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It didn't indicate anything of the kind. And I clarified who and what I was talking about.

If you want to spend your time bashing the people who work day and night to generate money for our sports and fund our scholarships be my guest. But they have a job to do. Raising money for a team that doesn’t even exist yet isn’t among them.

It’s CHP’s job to gauge the corporate support, not our folks that are responsible for getting funding for our existing scholarships. Bashing them for something that’s not even their job is, to me at least, rather pathetic.

Where did I bash them? Answer: no where. However, to pretend that all the way down the line everyone is doing a great job is BS and you know it! Also, you’re missing the point I was attempting to make. This is NOT about raising money for football. I’m talking about raising money for anything at the school. Again, if you think our school is raising as much money as it can, because our name is holding it back, your crazy (and I am strongly in favor of a name-change)!
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BY the way, I work hard at promoting our school as well and I DON’T get paid for it!!!