The EV news thread šŸ”Œ

This is actually the primary cause. It’s too cold for them to be effective so instead of cycling on and off, they’re running at max force nonstop. NC and SC apparently have the highest percentage of homes that use heat pumps in the nation.

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I love taking the family to Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest for a load of lumber. Nothing heats like old growth wood.

Surely the flagger with the itchy trigger finger didn’t believe the above. It’s a yoke. If you want ev’s to work, you better add wood as an energy source; not old growth duh.

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/12/toyota-ceo-says-silent-majority-of-auto-industry-is-doubting-ev-only-future/

Home grown terrorism. :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

I will never purchase a Tesla as long as Musk it at the helm. I am going elsewhere with my electric vehicle purchase.

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Pretty sure that I’ve read that wood pellets are the primary heating fuel in Sweden. So this is true in some places at least. This site claims that burning wood is not bad for the environment.

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Seems port titled. Doesn’t the term burglar imply that they are trying to steal something?

Vandals would have been a better descriptor.

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Damn right. Wood has always burned, even before humans. Nothing like volcanoes blasting co2. The world’s oceans have risen and retracted many times over with changes in climate temperatures and the related affects to ice formation and degradation. The preceding well beyond humans burning fossil fuels; shit, well well well before humans. It is geological fact. Yet what is the ultimate result of global warming? History and thermodynamics law states the result is global cooling! But our human limitations include a massive deficiency in increased energy production for our species exponential growth. So, if yens desire widespread EV usage, you should accept, at this time, you gotta dance with your ā€œdevilsā€

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/98292f0d-0201-4df1-ab22-7c16a675d113/

clt says time to buy

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My buddy is waiting for his Rivian…cannot wait to take it for a test drive!

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To add to MJG’s cynicism…while we might be creating a better atmosphere, I do think there should be a genuine concern for the increased use of rare metals. We’re potentially replacing one resource (fossil fuel) with it’s own issues, with another resource with new issues.

Most of Tesla’s current issues are self inflicted from Musk himself. However, the biggest hurdles for EV’s to be adapted by Americans are 1) how long/far will a charge last 2) how convenient is it to recharge and 3) specifically in regards to purchasing used EVs, how much of a hassle is it to replace the battery. In regards to #3, there’s always been an uncertainty about what the secondhand EV market will be like.

A lot of the hurdles for adoption of EVs will likely be overcome by people shifting their behavior and expectations as much or more than improving tech and infrastructure. The newer EV models mid to higher end all have pretty long ranges now, enough for most (excluding a long haul cross country type of trip and possibly extreme cold trips). Range isn’t really an issue anymore if it’s mostly a commuter, errand, short weekend trips car. For 2, there’s not much greater convenience than plugging in at home and charging overnight, or while at work, but you probably will not want to wait until close to empty to do it (so more frequent, but more convenient filling). I suspect most people will just get in the habit of plugging in every day and drive most of the time starting full and usually only need to charge a fraction of the battery to get back to full. You can even program the car to not go to 100% if you want to protect battery life.

The third issue doesn’t seem to be affecting the resale market much as far as i can tell, at least when i was looking for used leafs. The older leafs were still more expensive than similar small used cars, despite being close to the supposed 10 year limit for the battery (was seeing a lot of 2014, 2015 leafs that were still pretty pricey). Maybe that’s buyer ignorance that will eventually get corrected, particular to this model, or we might see more of a steep dropoff as EVs get older. There are some longtime owners of EVs reporting less than expected battery degradation, so it may not be as hard of a limit as we think (making buying these cars used more like the risks of buying used gas cars that can hide all sorts of problems). We’ll see.

It’s also possible to put a new (and bigger) battery into an old model, so maybe value recovers somewhat from that and the fact that there are fewer other parts wearing out over time that typically decreases value of gas cars. Old spent EV batteries are apparently a potentially valuable resource for energy storage facilities, though we don’t exactly have a good system for selling them and I’m not sure how much it costs to refurbish the battery for this purpose (and why we can’t just do the same for the car and put the old battery back in?). As someone who drove my last car into the ground at 18 years old, I’m interested what will happen with this new leaf.

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One question I continue to is don’t you need 240 service in the garage?

Would be difficult in my garage as my service panel is in my workshop on a lower level and opposite side of the house

clt says connect into your neighbor’s feed, problem solved

Like we have said before, you can have a charging station installed in your house and the costs are specific to your setup. It’s not super cheap but it’ll pay for itself pretty quickly. Probably in a few months in most cases .