Briscoe has gotten plenty of wide open three point looks this year and has missed quite a few.
I doubt heās a lights out shooter under any offensive scheme.
Briscoe is not a scoring PG. He can not effectively play PG. If you look at his stats, heās not a good or the word you like to use, EFFICIENT, shooter.
Dominant players donāt shoot < 40% from the field, but what do I know, Iām CRAZY!!!
And yet we have already equalled our win totals of last season, both overall and conference. Only reason I can figure is superb coaching.
He is shooting 36.4% this year, better than Derrio and E Vic, and thats it. In his two previous years, he shot 39.1% and 39.5%. Trying to call a kid who has never shot 40% or better in his college career an efficient scorer isā¦well, you fill in the gap.
Briscoe can help as a spark guy off the bench. Hopefully, get hot and hit some shots. I think heās determined and can be a confident scorer at times. But, heās def not a point guard, and we are going to struggle more than usual until Henry gets back.[/quote]
You are KIDDING RIGHT :o
Deuce shot 43% fg and 40% 3pt 80% ft avg 12ppg 4reb 3ast 1.5stl over the entire course of A-10 league play last year. Thats effective and efficient production for any player and especially a 1st yr PG in the A-10.
So your analysis of what Briscoe is and can not do is just ā¦well you fill in the gap 
This year his shooting is dismal and all numbers are down.
That would tell any knowledgeable fan that the coaching system, playing time, number of shots and his role is more of a factor in his decline than him not having the talent to produce at a very high level.
Players might not get better from year to year but they rarely get worse unless changes are made that hinder their performance.
As for Henry coming back, we will be better from a depth and defensive perspective only.
Our offensive woes and us losing did not start when he got hurt. We had lost 6 out of 8 before he left.
The offense has been āPUTRIDā run by Henry, Briscoe, Mayfield whomever.
This is a systematic MAJOR failure.[/quote]
He shot below 40% on the year, just like I said, and has never shot better than last year 39.5%. Why you only focus on A10, like we didnāt have other games last year, is just because it fits your agenda.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/42303/jamar-briscoe
Those are the facts, click the link all you want. Notice ESPN doesnāt separate just the A10 games, probably because every game counts.[/quote]
No I focus on A-10 games because thats the most important part of our season.
It also shows whether any player has improved by the end of the season or not. Briscoe was surely a much better player by years end 2010-11 then he was when it started.
You dont focus on it because it fits your agenda to discredit what Briscoe has done.
I dont give a damn about OOC because it means nothing to us if we dont play well in our league.
And if we do play well in the league we could lose every OOC game and still go to the tournament.
I want players who are performing when it counts not against a OOC schedule laden with cupcakes and a few BCS opponents.
( See the present team)
It doesnāt really matter if you care about OOC games or not. We play them, and I care. And so do our coaches, and so does Briscoe. They are a part of the season, and they count. This canāt even be a real discussion. Not to mention you were going ape **** when we lost OOC games this season, so its real obvious you donāt care about them, right? Jeeze. If youād like I can go back and quote you, but Iām sure everyone remembers.
And yet we have already equalled our win totals of last season, both overall and conference. Only reason I can figure is superb coaching.[/quote]
And yet were still a basement dweller in the A-10. Only reason I can figure is a B.S. OOC schedule designed to equal our win total of last year.
Yes superb coaching :))
Did I just read that sokool said, āI dont give a damn about OOC because it means nothing to us if we dont play well in our league.ā I specifically remember earlier this season saying Briscoe 2-0 in BCS games, Henry 0-2ā¦or whatever he said. So you did give a damn about those OOC BCS games because Briscoe won them but now you ādonāt give a damnā ??? ???
Sokool. Again. Heās shooting 38.8% ft and 34.5% from three for his career. Central games included.
You cant spin that no matter how hard you try.
[quote=ācasstommy, post:128, topic:26281ā]Sokool. Again. Heās shooting 38.8% ft and 34.5% from three for his career. Central games included.
You cant spin that no matter how hard you try.[/quote]Thatās NOT THE WHOLE PICTURE. You have to look at other things, like how good he is at being a PG.
Only gave a damn for the sake of comparison. Briscoe did win them and Henry didnāt. That where it stops.
But conference play is the cure all end all for us when it comes to making the tournament. That should not be a tough concept.
[font=comic sans ms]Please stop making us point out the flaws in a player most of enjoy watching.[/font]
Only gave a damn for the sake of comparison. Briscoe did win them and Henry didnāt. That where it stops.
But conference play is the cure all end all for us when it comes to making the tournament. That should not be a tough concept.[/quote]
You stated if we suck in the A-10ā¦then OOC is irrelevant. Guess what??? We sucked in the A-10 with Briscoe playingā¦and we kinda suck with Henry playingā¦technically 2-3 with him playing. You canāt polish a turd. You also canāt compare two people and then say those games donāt matter.
Deuce vs Xavier
5 reb ā¦ possible 10-15pts
3 ast ā¦ 6pts
1 stl ā¦ possible 3pts
1 to ā¦ possible -3pts
Briscoeās hustle and floor game created the opportunity for us to score a possible 15pts and prevented Xavier from scoring at least a possible 10pts in 22min of play.
Yet you say outside of scoring Briscoe brings little else :)) You are so MISGUIDED :
BTW thanks for the pub 8)
I didnāt see him from preventing many points.
Anytime any player gets a defensive rebound he is preventing pts. :o
Anytime any player gets a defensive rebound he is preventing pts. :o[/quote]Thanks, I wasnāt aware of that. I was more talking about his inability to guard, well, most anyone that attacks him off the dribble.
[quote=āsokool, post:124, topic:26281ā]No I focus on A-10 games because thats the most important part of our season.
It also shows whether any player has improved by the end of the season or not. Briscoe was surely a much better player by years end 2010-11 then he was when it started.
I dont give a damn about OOC because it means nothing to us if we dont play well in our league.[/quote]
Iām with you on this. I believe March is what itās all about. And Briscoe was indeed much better by year end last year. A good example of excellent coaching. I hope Briscoe continues to listen to our coaches and improves as the season progresses.
And it looks like we will improve in our league this year.
[quote=āsokool, post:134, topic:26281ā]Deuce vs Xavier
5 reb ā¦ possible 10-15pts
3 ast ā¦ 6pts
1 stl ā¦ possible 3pts
1 to ā¦ possible -3pts
Briscoeās hustle and floor game created the opportunity for us to score a possible 15pts and prevented Xavier from scoring at least a possible 10pts in 22min of play. [/quote]
You are so right, yet modest.
There were at least 8 times that an X player passed the ball because Briscoe was near. Thats another possible 24 points maximum prevented in 22 min. So the bottom line is that without Briscoe we would have lost by nearly 50 points instead of four. If he had played 2 and a half minutes more we would have won.
Anytime any player gets a defensive rebound he is preventing pts. :o[/quote]Thanks, I wasnāt aware of that. I was more talking about his inability to guard, well, most anyone that attacks him off the dribble.[/quote]
This could be said about all of our players : Especially the promising freshman you RAVE about.