[QUOTE=Mike_Persinger;319366]What, and be haunted by my actions forever? No way …[/QUOTE]
Mike your actions have beed haunting us for years.
When I give reasons, they're excuses to you and others on here. I don't know why it wasn't in, it should have been, it was in city edition, so obviously someone was paying attention. I suppose I should get on them for not paying attention sooner. They might not have had what they needed at deadline, or time to go searching for it (it would have been among about 15 duties for that person Saturday night), or whatever. But readers don't care. They just want what they want, and we didn't have it. We should have. Beating up an overworked employee won't help, because obviously they knew it needed to be in -- they put it in the headline for city edition.
Thats all I wanted Mike (an actual answer)…My, aren’t we touchy, when we KNOW our staff made a mistake!!
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When I give reasons, they're excuses to you and others on here. I don't know why it wasn't in, it should have been, it was in city edition, so obviously someone was paying attention. I suppose I should get on them for not paying attention sooner. They might not have had what they needed at deadline, or time to go searching for it (it would have been among about 15 duties for that person Saturday night), or whatever. But readers don't care. They just want what they want, and we didn't have it. We should have. Beating up an overworked employee won't help, because obviously they knew it needed to be in -- they put it in the headline for city edition.Can I have Utter's job when he finds another or when you fire him??? I want to get paid for watching Charlotte games!!!!
Can I have Utter's job when he finds another or when you fire him??? I want to get paid for watching Charlotte games!!!!You have wait in line behind me. I was supposed to keep that a secret, but what the heck. Mike decided he would catch less grief from me this way because he could always threaten to fire me if I complained too much.................... but shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........ Keep it a secret.
[QUOTE=Over40NINER;319528]You have wait in line behind me. I was supposed to keep that a secret, but what the heck. Mike decided he would catch less grief from me this way because he could always threaten to fire me if I complained too much… but shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh… Keep it a secret.[/QUOTE]
IMHO, I don’t think Jim is going anywhere. But, if you ever get the “job”, I’m sure I would make a great assistant. 
I’m very resourceful and very dependable. Besides, what could be better as a job to cover the Niners and getting pay, too.
Besides, what could be better as a job to cover the Niners and getting pay, too.
Having Luts’ job and coaching the niners and making a lot more money.
[QUOTE=cibik02;319543]Having Luts’ job and coaching the niners and making a lot more money.[/QUOTE]
who is luts’?
who is luts'?the alter ego of Bobby Lut[B][SIZE=7][COLOR=darkgreen]z[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]
NNN is getting harsher and more anal day by day… sheeshhhhhhhhhhh.
[QUOTE=cibik02;319630]NNN is getting harsher and more anal day by day… sheeshhhhhhhhhhh.[/QUOTE]
Ya THINK?
Mike, with the current changes that have taken place in the paper I’d like to say I don’t care for the new format for the baseball standings, a bit too small, plus if my memory serves me right, there used to be a column that showed the teams win streak which is now gone. I enjoyed looking at that.
Overall with all the new changes the print and font remind me of the Rock Hill Herald, I also noticed numerous grammatical errors in the editorial section the other day as well.
[QUOTE=CPA_Niner;324629]Mike, with the current changes that have taken place in the paper I’d like to say I don’t care for the new format for the baseball standings, a bit too small, plus if my memory serves me right, there used to be a column that showed the teams win streak which is now gone. I enjoyed looking at that.
Overall with all the new changes the print and font remind me of the Rock Hill Herald, I also noticed numerous grammatical errors in the editorial section the other day as well.[/QUOTE]
Baseball is a work in progress. What we used to have won’t fit now (the page is narrower, and the box scores won’t go any narrower than they are now), so we were forced to change something.
My question: What would you give up?
– Would you give up notes and game information in the rail for the expanded baseball standings? That, likely, would be the tradeoff.
– How about league leaders? Important, or not so much?
– In fitting the copy on one page (that’s what we have to do), what things are expendable? Late boxes? Notes? Roundups of game information? If something had to go, what would you cut? Or shorten?
– I’d love to have a picture on the page every day, from a looks standpoint. Is that important to you?
– Do you use the internet for baseball information? Would you if longer stories on each game were available at charlotte.com?
I appreciate you reading the Observer. Feedback like this is invaluable as we decide what’s “right.” Thanks again.
Baseball is a work in progress. What we used to have won't fit now (the page is narrower, and the box scores won't go any narrower than they are now), so we were forced to change something.My question: What would you give up?
– Would you give up notes and game information in the rail for the expanded baseball standings? That, likely, would be the tradeoff.
– How about league leaders? Important, or not so much?
– In fitting the copy on one page (that’s what we have to do), what things are expendable? Late boxes? Notes? Roundups of game information? If something had to go, what would you cut? Or shorten?
– I’d love to have a picture on the page every day, from a looks standpoint. Is that important to you?
– Do you use the internet for baseball information? Would you if longer stories on each game were available at charlotte.com?
I appreciate you reading the Observer. Feedback like this is invaluable as we decide what’s “right.” Thanks again.
I’d give up win percentage. I can do the math in my head. In terms of baseball, all I really need is the boxscore to know what happened unless there was something really interesting like a walk off hit.
[QUOTE=Mike_Persinger;324667]Baseball is a work in progress. What we used to have won’t fit now (the page is narrower, and the box scores won’t go any narrower than they are now), so we were forced to change something.
My question: What would you give up?
– Would you give up notes and game information in the rail for the expanded baseball standings? That, likely, would be the tradeoff.
– How about league leaders? Important, or not so much?
– In fitting the copy on one page (that’s what we have to do), what things are expendable? Late boxes? Notes? Roundups of game information? If something had to go, what would you cut? Or shorten?
– I’d love to have a picture on the page every day, from a looks standpoint. Is that important to you?
– Do you use the internet for baseball information? Would you if longer stories on each game were available at charlotte.com?
I appreciate you reading the Observer. Feedback like this is invaluable as we decide what’s “right.” Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
I didn’t even realize the page is smaller. I like the roundups and team notes, I don’t need a picture. I’m a Braves fan so I know that you do several stories about the Braves so as far as photos go it’s not that big of a deal for me. I’m not going to go to charlotte.com for baseball info, I usually look over the Braves score, see how many games back there are (I miss the glory days) and read about the previous night’s game. I enjoy the team notes and usually read what’s printed on any team.
I’m not use to looking to the right of the page for league standings, what about moving it to the left side of the page (to the right of the game day notes)? The standings seem to blend in these days with the box score with the new layout.
I don’t read the “on this date” I don’t know how important that is.
Thanks for listening to the readers!
You could get 4-5 extra pages if the O would give up all the freaking NY Times articles and columns it reprints. Geez, that drives me crazy!
Mike, would you like for me to do some research and find you the link to the unc-chapel hill websites? Then, you can start trying to get them to reduce their over-priced student fees. That will make their total costs a little more in line with Charlotte’s.
Let me know.
Mike, I don’t know what’s happening with the editing but I’ve noticed a lot of spelling errors in the paper lately. I’ve seen quite a few in the editorial section and today I’ve noticed three errors in a sports story. In the baseball notebook, your story on Milton Bradley, there are three errors. First it says Bradley stormed tstairs. Should be the stairs. Next Bradley’s quote never ends. The quote “It was a spiel…”, never has an end quotation mark. Finally you end the story with "baseball with cocaine and alcohol additions. Shouldn’t that be addictions?
[QUOTE=CPA_Niner;324842]Mike, I don’t know what’s happening with the editing but I’ve noticed a lot of spelling errors in the paper lately. I’ve seen quite a few in the editorial section and today I’ve noticed three errors in a sports story. In the baseball notebook, your story on Milton Bradley, there are three errors. First it says Bradley stormed tstairs. Should be the stairs. Next Bradley’s quote never ends. The quote “It was a spiel…”, never has an end quotation mark. Finally you end the story with "baseball with cocaine and alcohol additions. Shouldn’t that be addictions?[/QUOTE]
Three things going on simultaneously: Web reduction (change to a narrower page to save newsprint), redesign of the paper to accommodate the narrower page, and change to a new version of our pagination publishing system that is very different from the old version, almost like starting over. This is the week sports folks are in training for the new system, and our section is being produced by folks who don’t ordinarily do sports, working in a new system in which they’re not completely proficient. That’s going to lead to more typos and such – along with other issues such as the baseball page mentioned above – in the short term. Unfortunate but necessary transition. The new system will ultimately allow many things the old one wouldn’t, but we’re learning. I ask for your patience, at least until my folks get back in the saddle next week.
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mike, why do you select the questions you want to answer and ignore the others?
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mike, are you the observer staff member that keeps writing those unsigned editorials criticizing the use of student fees for football?
[QUOTE=LakeNorman49er;324859]1. mike, why do you select the questions you want to answer and ignore the others?
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mike, are you the observer staff member that keeps writing those unsigned editorials criticizing the use of student fees for football?[/QUOTE]
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I ignore questions that are meant to inflame rather than inform, or that aren’t based in reality.
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I have nothing to do with the editorial page. That staff is and has always been separate from the newsroom.
[QUOTE=CPA_Niner;324842]Mike, I don’t know what’s happening with the editing but I’ve noticed a lot of spelling errors[/QUOTE]
fixed.