Academic Direction of the University

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I would imagine that we're headed to Charlotte Tech because Engineering & [B][U]Architechure[/U][/B] students make more, & can contribute more back to the U. that History majors like me.

Dude, we don’t make squat. Trust me.

Our most prestigious colleges are Engineering, Business, and Nursing, as far as I know. I haven't heard much about our Education program.

Architecture is in that group.

I doubt any of our programs hold a candle to architecture in terms of prestige. Nationally ranked in the top 5, 500+ applicants per year to fill 60 slots, and the application process is grueling to say the least. Engineering, Business, and Nursing are all great programs, but the School of Architecture is our prestige flagship.

Top 5 nationally would be pushing it, unless something dramatic has changed in the last 2.5 years since I’ve been out. Top 5 in the region as in (VA, NC, GA, SC, TN) sure, but nationally you have some stiff competition (and this is just undergrad, the grad program isn’t there yet, it’s good and growing, but not quite there yet.). If you have numbers to prove me wrong, please do, I’ll make sure to put that plug in my next resume.

You are right about the 500+ applicants for 50-60 spots though. It’s not easy.

[URL=http://www.menusearch.net/menus/2271take_out.pdf]He makes a pretty good pizza.[/URL] :shades:

Hell yea, had that Saturday night, that place makes a fine pie.

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beethoven bach mozart handel michaelangelo picasso dali rembrandt renoir carvaggio monet van gogh elvis the beatles homer plato shakespeare twain dostoevsky orwell steinbeck kubrick hitchcock spielberg lucas coppola

Seriously, I can’t believe we’re even having this debate.

Sorry Job, but this thread is officially highjacked.

Sideshow, I’m not saying arts are not important. But I also don’t think just because I’m not familiar with their names that they are not important. For instance, I don’t know the name of the first person who successfully performed a heart bypass surgery. (I think HBO made a movie about him with Mos Def) But even though I don’t know that person’s name, I’d probably prefer to have them in the world than say, Monet. Hell, I’d probably rather have the top surgeon in Charlotte alone than some of the artists.

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We're definitely going towards technical. I believe the reasoning is because the competition is smaller. Basically you have NC State. With liberal arts you pretty much have all of the other schools in the UNC system. Let's be honest, the engineering and architecture programs have always been what distinguishes us from most of the other schools. It makes sense to build upon that.

I still think a medical and law school would be a unique niche for Charlotte and would be a huge success. But we’re at the mercy of the UNC system to get that accomplished. It is the biggest example of how the system holds UNC Charlotte back. I don’t think its so much that leadership at UNC Charlotte is against a medical or law school as it is they know it won’t get approved or funded by the UNC system.

[SIZE=5]Charlotte is easily the largest City in the country that does not have a university with a Law school or a Medical school…UNC-Chapel Hill fears the potential that Charlotte has to ever let that happen. Unless Charlotte’s corporate world, or CMC politically pushes for it we wont see it… just UNC Chapel Hill-Charlotte satelite campus at CMC Med School[/SIZE]…

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[SIZE=1]Charlotte is easily the largest City in the country that does not have a university with a Law school or a Medical school…UNC-Chapel Hill fears the potential that Charlotte has to ever let that happen. Unless Charlotte’s corporate world, or CMC politically pushes for it we wont see it… just UNC Chapel Hill-Charlotte satelite campus at CMC Med School…[/SIZE]

there is no need to yell whilst preaching to the choir…

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It depends on the field of study, but the fact that history started this off is ludicrous. The study of history is what has lead to almost every single breakthrough in every field of mathematics and science. Whether the history of their field or the history of the world.

Those who forget…

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[QUOTE=chasmo101;400488]Charlotte is easily the largest City in the country that does not have a university with a Law school or a Medical school…UNC-Chapel Hill fears the potential that Charlotte has to ever let that happen. Unless Charlotte’s corporate world, or CMC politically pushes for it we wont see it… just UNC Chapel Hill-Charlotte satelite campus at CMC Med School[/QUOTE]

The city of Charlotte has a law school (Charlotte School of Law), and will soon have the upper half of a medical school (UNCCHC SoM).

Not pointing this out to be a phallus, just to inform. These both also greatly diminish the likelihood of UNC Charlotte opening either any time soon.

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I personally like Charlotte State…
But it would back fire state wide among the people who already think the City of Charlotte is the “Great State of Mecklenburg.”

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I thought Da Vinci was best remembered for Dan Brown & Tom Hanks. LOL.

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Britney is a dumb blond whore with big tits & a snatch. So I’d say she’s more important than Ron Paul!

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[QUOTE=stonecoldken;400630]Britney is a dumb blond whore with big tits & a snatch. So I’d say she’s more important than Ron Paul![/QUOTE]

Can’t argue with that logic. SCK, you’ve found your niche!

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[QUOTE=darren;400622]The city of Charlotte has a law school (Charlotte School of Law), and will soon have the upper half of a medical school (UNCCHC SoM).

Not pointing this out to be a phallus, just to inform. These both also greatly diminish the likelihood of UNC Charlotte opening either any time soon.[/QUOTE]

Depressing and true. But if the future can bring football, it can bring Law and Medical.

Also, kind of back to the first post, I was told today in class that three professors are leaving, two to Temple and one (Dr. Aydin) to George Mason. Dr. Aydin (our Middle East and Japanese specialist) is probably the one that hurts the most. Sad too, because my prof said that we would probably only replace them with part timers.

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Don't most MBAs go into Finance?

(that’s a question AND a declaration)

I think when I graduated the top jobs for MBAs were finance, consulting, and brand/product management in that order.

In Charlotte, I would certainly believe finance to be #1 just because of the strength of BofA and Wells. BofA is a top 25 destination for MBAs nationwide.

P.S. Anyone who wants to be anything of than The University of Charlotte is nuts.

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P.S. Anyone who wants to be anything of than The University of Charlotte is nuts.

exactly

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BUMP! Discuss!

WE MUST HAVE A MEDICAL SCHOOL!!!

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Does anyone know anything about the tactics ECU used to get a medical school?

I know they had a very active/wealthy advocate for their school, Leo something…anyone know why the BOG listened to him?

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[QUOTE=jfickett;405532]Does anyone know anything about the tactics ECU used to get a medical school?

I know they had a very active/wealthy advocate for their school, Leo something…anyone know why the BOG listened to him?[/QUOTE]

They also had loyal state legislators who backed them up and were willing to hold up spending bills. They’ve used this threat several times. Most recently for the Dental School and to get the Heels and the Wolves to agree to play several times in Dowdy-Ficklen.

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[QUOTE=jfickett;405532]Does anyone know anything about the tactics ECU used to get a medical school?

I know they had a very active/wealthy advocate for their school, Leo something…anyone know why the BOG listened to him?[/QUOTE]

The sterilized version from the [URL=http://www.ecu.edu/cs-dhs/med/index.cfm]Brody School of Medicine[/URL] official website:

[I][COLOR=Purple][B]In the early 1960s, a group of leaders from eastern North Carolina proposed that a medical school be established at what was then East Carolina College. They were concerned about the deficit of modern medical care available in the region, and about who would replace the generation of physicians then in practice. Over the next decade these and other men and women, under the determined leadership of the late Dr. Leo W. Jenkins, chancellor of the college, made the case for their idea to anyone who would listen. The Brody School of Medicine at East Carolina University is accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education.

East Carolina University is accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools.

In time, East Carolina University was authorized to establish a health affairs division as a foundation for a medical program, and then a one-year medical school whose participants completed their medical education at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. Finally in 1974, the General Assembly of North Carolina appropriated the funds to establish a four-year medical school at East Carolina University.

The legislature set forth a three-fold mission for the ECU School of Medicine: to increase the supply of primary care physicians to serve the state, to improve health status of citizens in eastern North Carolina, and to enhance the access of minority and disadvantaged students to a medical education.

Since 1977, when the first class of 28 students enrolled in the four-year School of Medicine, the institution has grown dramatically in its teaching, research and patient care roles. Today, in its partnership with University Health Systems of Eastern Carolina and regional physicians, the school is the educational centerpiece of one of North Carolina’s largest and most productive academic medical centers. In 1999, it was renamed the Brody School of Medicine at East Carolina University, in recognition of the continuous support of the Brody family.[/B][/COLOR][/I]

We have a FREAKING HOSPITAL on the campus (I know, but it might as well be on the campus)!!!

[URL=http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/stories/2008/05/12/focus4.html]BE PISSED AND DISGUSTED, VERY PISSED AND DISGUSTED!!![/URL]

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We need a law school first- so we can get some people out there to help us fight for a medical school.

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I'm pleased with the shift to "Charlotte Tech." Science/Tech majors are generally more useful to society. Not that the other degrees don't have their place...

I just don’t understand the reasoning for majoring in things such as English, Art, etc.

As someone pursuing a PhD in Literature, let me tackle this. There are two major tracks in English, those that focus on rhetoric and composition and those that focus on English as an art form, whether that be literary theory or actual creative writing. I don’t like rhetoric OR linguistics, so I won’t address how English is a necessary field if your intent is to make sure everyone else can form coherent sentences.

The question you’re asking is a subset of a much larger question about the practical world and what aestheticians call the “art world.” Here’s the bottom line: some people believe it’s silly to spend so much time creating pretty pictures and poems when there is real work to be done and some people believe that it’s silly to spend so much time on mundanity when you could be directly addressing the actual experience of being human, rather than just the condition. I don’t know how you feel about art, but I would ask you to imagine an artless world. Maybe that’s a world you’d feel comfortable living, but it isn’t for me and it isn’t for a lot of people who are receivers of art, not creators. Those people need someone to create art for them in the same way they need someone to watch over the economy for them or diagnose their illnesses. I imagine that, if you asked around, you’d find a lot of people who rely more heavily on art for relaxation, entertainment, instruction, spiritual growth, and therapy than you’d first expect. Those things which art directly addresses comprise, at least to me, the very essence of what it is to be human and to live as a human in ways that the science just can’t.

There’s another dimension to this, which I just hinted at: the religious or spiritual side. It’s entirely possible that this isn’t relevant to you, but, as an ecumenical Christian, I think that art allows me much more freedom as a field to pursue the spiritual realm within my studies than science does. I do think that science can be spiritually fulfilling as well, but it does not often directly address the spiritual realm. Art can and does, and, if you are a religious person as I am, that has a tendency to be a factor for you. And, since a portion of society also highly values spirituality, art can benefit those people on a level that science does not often attempt to.

Hope that was helpful because it was really f-ing long if it wasn’t.

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Let me help get us on a productive train of thought. English degrees are useful, engineering degrees are too, art degrees serve the people and so do all the others. Bachelors of Science united with Bachelors of Arts to make the whole dang world a better place.

There, solved.

Now what the heck are we going to do to help get this University the one program that will increase our academic reputation across the board and increase the median income of our donor base, A MEDICAL SCHOOL?