[QUOTE=TheNinerAlchemist;405567]As someone pursuing a PhD in Literature, let me tackle this. There are two major tracks in English, those that focus on rhetoric and composition and those that focus on English as an art form, whether that be literary theory or actual creative writing. I don’t like rhetoric OR linguistics, so I won’t address how English is a necessary field if your intent is to make sure everyone else can form coherent sentences.
The question you’re asking is a subset of a much larger question about the practical world and what aestheticians call the “art world.” Here’s the bottom line: some people believe it’s silly to spend so much time creating pretty pictures and poems when there is real work to be done and some people believe that it’s silly to spend so much time on mundanity when you could be directly addressing the actual [I]experience[/I] of being human, rather than just the condition. I don’t know how you feel about art, but I would ask you to imagine an artless world. Maybe that’s a world you’d feel comfortable living, but it isn’t for me and it isn’t for a lot of people who are receivers of art, not creators. Those people need someone to create art for them in the same way they need someone to watch over the economy for them or diagnose their illnesses. I imagine that, if you asked around, you’d find a lot of people who rely more heavily on art for relaxation, entertainment, instruction, spiritual growth, and therapy than you’d first expect. Those things which art directly addresses comprise, at least to me, the very essence of what it is to be human and to live as a human in ways that the science just can’t.
There’s another dimension to this, which I just hinted at: the religious or spiritual side. It’s entirely possible that this isn’t relevant to you, but, as an ecumenical Christian, I think that art allows me much more freedom as a field to pursue the spiritual realm within my studies than science does. I do think that science can be spiritually fulfilling as well, but it does not often directly address the spiritual realm. Art can and does, and, if you are a religious person as I am, that has a tendency to be a factor for you. And, since a portion of society also highly values spirituality, art can benefit those people on a level that science does not often attempt to.
Hope that was helpful because it was really f-ing long if it wasn’t.[/QUOTE]
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Now what the heck are we going to do to help get this University the one program that will increase our academic reputation across the board and increase the median income of our donor base, A MEDICAL SCHOOL?[/QUOTE]
The first step would be to get the leaders of this University on board.
[QUOTE=Mr. Bojangles;405614]The first step would be to get the leaders of this University on board.[/QUOTE]
Which is seemingly impossible. I had been in contact with the head of the academic department at CMC (McDeavitt) and had him wanting to meet to discuss some options. I contacted the Chancellor’s office, to get his okay to meet and hope that he would also attend the meeting, and never got a response. I contacted the office every other day for a month, and received not even a simple acknowledgement. He is far too afraid to step on toes at the UNC System.
[QUOTE=darren;405617]Which is seemingly impossible. I had been in contact with the head of the academic department at CMC (McDeavitt) and had him wanting to meet to discuss some options. I contacted the Chancellor’s office, to get his okay to meet and hope that he would also attend the meeting, and never got a response. I contacted the office every other day for a month, and received not even a simple acknowledgement. He is far too afraid to step on toes at the UNC System.[/QUOTE]
That’s what I thought. We can’t do anyhting if we are scared to step on people’s toes.
As someone pursuing a PhD in Literature, let me tackle this. There are two major tracks in English, those that focus on rhetoric and composition and those that focus on English as an art form, whether that be literary theory or actual creative writing. I don't like rhetoric OR linguistics, so I won't address how English is a necessary field if your intent is to make sure everyone else can form coherent sentences.
The question you’re asking is a subset of a much larger question about the practical world and what aestheticians call the “art world.” Here’s the bottom line: some people believe it’s silly to spend so much time creating pretty pictures and poems when there is real work to be done and some people believe that it’s silly to spend so much time on mundanity when you could be directly addressing the actual experience of being human, rather than just the condition. I don’t know how you feel about art, but I would ask you to imagine an artless world. Maybe that’s a world you’d feel comfortable living, but it isn’t for me and it isn’t for a lot of people who are receivers of art, not creators. Those people need someone to create art for them in the same way they need someone to watch over the economy for them or diagnose their illnesses. I imagine that, if you asked around, you’d find a lot of people who rely more heavily on art for relaxation, entertainment, instruction, spiritual growth, and therapy than you’d first expect. Those things which art directly addresses comprise, at least to me, the very essence of what it is to be human and to live as a human in ways that the science just can’t.
There’s another dimension to this, which I just hinted at: the religious or spiritual side. It’s entirely possible that this isn’t relevant to you, but, as an ecumenical Christian, I think that art allows me much more freedom as a field to pursue the spiritual realm within my studies than science does. I do think that science can be spiritually fulfilling as well, but it does not often directly address the spiritual realm. Art can and does, and, if you are a religious person as I am, that has a tendency to be a factor for you. And, since a portion of society also highly values spirituality, art can benefit those people on a level that science does not often attempt to.
Hope that was helpful because it was really f-ing long if it wasn’t.
[QUOTE=darren;405617]Which is seemingly impossible. I had been in contact with the head of the academic department at CMC (McDeavitt) and had him wanting to meet to discuss some options. I contacted the Chancellor’s office, to get his okay to meet and hope that he would also attend the meeting, and never got a response. I contacted the office every other day for a month, and received not even a simple acknowledgement. He is far too afraid to step on toes at the UNC System.[/QUOTE]
WE need to take this to the Board of Trustees directly. Specifically Mrs. Shaw. Anything we can do to help let us know. There are ways over Phil Dubois’s back!
There’s no reason CMC shouldn’t work with us on getting a Med School. We hold all of the cards. Our nursing school keeps the U City Hospital running. If we cut them off, & said we’re shipping our students to Presbyterian-Matthews or Presbyterian-Huntersville, they’re screwed.
CHP needs to get the cajones to tell CMC the Med School in Charlotte is us or no one. There will be no going over our heads to Chapel Hell. If CHP won’t give them an ultimatum, then get Mrs. Shaw to do it.
And UNCA’s Chancellor should do the same w/ the Hospital in Asheville.
I don’t think the UNC BOG or the NCGA will give us a Law School w/ the Charlotte School of Law here.
I propose that our Admin. contact them about a 50/50 Partnership on the profits in exchange for the Charlotte School of Law getting the benefits of being a State School, while they can still do some things as a private school. Also, In-State Tuition would be cheaper than the $22K a year crap. NCCU is only $11K.
[QUOTE=stonecoldken;405708]There’s no reason CMC shouldn’t work with us on getting a Med School. We hold all of the cards. Our nursing school keeps the U City Hospital running. If we cut them off, & said we’re shipping our students to Presbyterian-Matthews or Presbyterian-Huntersville, they’re screwed.
CHP needs to get the cajones to tell CMC the Med School in Charlotte is us or no one. There will be no going over our heads to Chapel Hell. If CHP won’t give them an ultimatum, then get Mrs. Shaw to do it.
And UNCA’s Chancellor should do the same w/ the Hospital in Asheville.[/QUOTE]
Our nursing students cannot intern at the CMC-Univ., as Davidson has a long established partnership with them. At least this used to be the case – I may be mistaken.
[QUOTE=stonecoldken;405709]I don’t think the UNC BOG or the NCGA will give us a Law School w/ the Charlotte School of Law here.
I propose that our Admin. contact them about a 50/50 Partnership on the profits in exchange for the Charlotte School of Law getting the benefits of being a State School, while they can still do some things as a private school. Also, In-State Tuition would be cheaper than the $22K a year crap. NCCU is only $11K.[/QUOTE]
The Law School isn't going anywhere, any time soon.
But if we started our own program, for a cheaper price AND having it part of the UNC system would steal a lot of their students. Which would force them into a compromise toward joining forces. Then we could use their facilities and professors AND name for that matter. I like Charlotte Law name, much better than UNC in front of it.
This is a testament to the complete failure of our university’s leadership. We have no control over our own city. Absolutely shameful to let something like this go through without a fight.
[QUOTE=gotLutz;405756]This is a testament to the complete failure of our university’s leadership. We have no control over our own city. Absolutely shameful to let something like this go through without a fight.[/QUOTE]
We have to take this to the Board of Trustees directly. Phil is willing to do only those things that [B][COLOR=MediumTurquoise]Mother[/COLOR][/B] says he can do!
I don’t see why UNC Charlotte would want a law school with the need already being filled here. Charlotte Law will never go private. Instead, we should focus on the need for a medical school, veterinary school, dental school, and pharmacy school. I mean there is such a greater need for these things than another law school, there are already more law schools in the state than any other professional doctorate schools.