Bobby Lutz:Is he still on Charlotte's payroll?

Interesting to go back and watch/listen to the presser. Wonder how they feel theyā€™ve done with their selection of Major to this point as far as ā€œachieving stated goalsā€ and the criteria that the Chancellor listed.[/quote]Yep, Dubois made it noted about NCAA credits.

As a matter of tact Iā€™d recommend sending her an email or give her a phone call. Approaching her at a sporting event would be classless.[/quote]

At first I thought this went right over your head AGAIN. Then I realized you have no way of knowing this, so Iā€™ll quickly explain. Judy does not usually attend our baseball games (not saying that is good or bad, itā€™s just a fact). Nice cheap shot though.

And just so youā€™ll know, I personally would never approach Judy about this; but if someone else did take this approach, I would see nothing wrong with it. Shoot, with all your connections, why donā€™t you ask her. ::slight_smile:

Approaching Judy in a public forum is fine but griping about something at a place where she comes to mingle and support our teams is not good etiquette at all. Itā€™s the equivalent to talking to a coworker about an issue you have in the company cafeteria at lunch.

Iā€™d like to know how many people who are griping about the Lutz extension went to Judy when it happened? If you didnā€™t complain about it then, you have no business complaining about it now. If you just came on NNN to complain about it then shame on you.

Iā€™m not a fan of the extension myself but letā€™s focus on what we can change. Complaining on NNN are about the least effective way to make anything happen and amounts to water cooler talk at best.

As a matter of tact Iā€™d recommend sending her an email or give her a phone call. Approaching her at a sporting event would be classless.[/quote]

At first I thought this went right over your head AGAIN. Then I realized you have no way of knowing this, so Iā€™ll quickly explain. Judy does not usually attend our baseball games (not saying that is good or bad, itā€™s just a fact). Nice cheap shot though.

And just so youā€™ll know, I personally would never approach Judy about this; but if someone else did take this approach, I would see nothing wrong with it. Shoot, with all your connections, why donā€™t you ask her. ::)[/quote]

Who ever said I had connections? I knew exactly what you were implying. If I ever had any gripes with Judy I sure as hell wouldnā€™t air them with her at a sporting event.

As a matter of tact Iā€™d recommend sending her an email or give her a phone call. Approaching her at a sporting event would be classless.[/quote]

At first I thought this went right over your head AGAIN. Then I realized you have no way of knowing this, so Iā€™ll quickly explain. Judy does not usually attend our baseball games (not saying that is good or bad, itā€™s just a fact). Nice cheap shot though.

And just so youā€™ll know, I personally would never approach Judy about this; but if someone else did take this approach, I would see nothing wrong with it. Shoot, with all your connections, why donā€™t you ask her. ::)[/quote]

Who ever said I had connections? I knew exactly what you were implying. If I ever had any gripes with Judy I sure as hell wouldnā€™t air them with her at a sporting event.[/quote]

Mike, keep in mind that some people post here when they are obviously drunk and irrational. :-X

As a matter of tact Iā€™d recommend sending her an email or give her a phone call. Approaching her at a sporting event would be classless.[/quote]

At first I thought this went right over your head AGAIN. Then I realized you have no way of knowing this, so Iā€™ll quickly explain. Judy does not usually attend our baseball games (not saying that is good or bad, itā€™s just a fact). Nice cheap shot though.

And just so youā€™ll know, I personally would never approach Judy about this; but if someone else did take this approach, I would see nothing wrong with it. Shoot, with all your connections, why donā€™t you ask her. ::)[/quote]

Who ever said I had connections? I knew exactly what you were implying. If I ever had any gripes with Judy I sure as hell wouldnā€™t air them with her at a sporting event.[/quote]

So then when? I mean if you are a $250 donor she sinā€™t going to meet you in her office, you arenā€™t going to see her at a big alumni event because you wonā€™t be invited - so the only time you are going to see her is public events like games and maybe a press conference. So when in your mind is appropriate? For what it is worth I have talked to her at games, press conferences, receptions and she has always been pleasant and answered questions I had to the best of her ability.

As a matter of tact Iā€™d recommend sending her an email or give her a phone call. Approaching her at a sporting event would be classless.[/quote]

At first I thought this went right over your head AGAIN. Then I realized you have no way of knowing this, so Iā€™ll quickly explain. Judy does not usually attend our baseball games (not saying that is good or bad, itā€™s just a fact). Nice cheap shot though.

And just so youā€™ll know, I personally would never approach Judy about this; but if someone else did take this approach, I would see nothing wrong with it. Shoot, with all your connections, why donā€™t you ask her. ::)[/quote]

Who ever said I had connections? I knew exactly what you were implying. If I ever had any gripes with Judy I sure as hell wouldnā€™t air them with her at a sporting event.[/quote]

So then when? I mean if you are a $250 donor she sinā€™t going to meet you in her office, you arenā€™t going to see her at a big alumni event because you wonā€™t be invited - so the only time you are going to see her is public events like games and maybe a press conference. So when in your mind is appropriate? For what it is worth I have talked to her at games, press conferences, receptions and she has always been pleasant and answered questions I had to the best of her ability.[/quote]

If you are having one on one conversations with her and being diplomatic (as it sounds like you are) then all is good. I want to discourage people from seeking her out at sporting events just for the sake of airing a grievance. Email is a great way to contact her and Iā€™d expect Judy to be open to phone calls as well.

Not a fan of negative energy and I donā€™t mind sticking my neck out to try to move conversations towards proactive and positive change. The Lutz contract extension is long gone, over with, done. We canā€™t change it. If people want Judy gone hereā€™s the Chancellorā€™s email address: [font=georgia]pdubois@uncc.edu[/font] and hereā€™s a link to the online giving page of the 49er Club. http://www.charlotte49ers.com/donor/DonorWelcome.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=23200.

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As a matter of tact Iā€™d recommend sending her an email or give her a phone call. Approaching her at a sporting event would be classless.[/quote]

At first I thought this went right over your head AGAIN. Then I realized you have no way of knowing this, so Iā€™ll quickly explain. Judy does not usually attend our baseball games (not saying that is good or bad, itā€™s just a fact). Nice cheap shot though.

And just so youā€™ll know, I personally would never approach Judy about this; but if someone else did take this approach, I would see nothing wrong with it. Shoot, with all your connections, why donā€™t you ask her. ::)[/quote]

Who ever said I had connections? I knew exactly what you were implying. If I ever had any gripes with Judy I sure as hell wouldnā€™t air them with her at a sporting event.[/quote]

So then when? I mean if you are a $250 donor she sinā€™t going to meet you in her office, you arenā€™t going to see her at a big alumni event because you wonā€™t be invited - so the only time you are going to see her is public events like games and maybe a press conference. So when in your mind is appropriate? For what it is worth I have talked to her at games, press conferences, receptions and she has always been pleasant and answered questions I had to the best of her ability.[/quote]

If you are having one on one conversations with her and being diplomatic (as it sounds like you are) then all is good. I want to discourage people from seeking her out at sporting events just for the sake of airing a grievance. Email is a great way to contact her and Iā€™d expect Judy to be open to phone calls as well.[/quote]

No one said they were going to air grievances with her, and like I stated, I was not serious when I stated I wanted to ask her at a baseball game. I was only alluding to the fact she does not attend our baseball games (you seem sorta slow in understanding some of this, so I will keep repeating). And before you go putting words in my mouth, I have had quite a few codial conversations with Judy dating all the way back to our CUSA days and no grievances were discussed.

Now, about you having connectionsā€¦ I take it your sarcasm meter was not plugged in. No, of course I do not think you have connections, but I have noticed you sometimes like to PRETEND you do.

Ok, carry on.

I have the same 1st name as her husband. Does that count as a connection? :))

As a matter of tact Iā€™d recommend sending her an email or give her a phone call. Approaching her at a sporting event would be classless.[/quote]

At first I thought this went right over your head AGAIN. Then I realized you have no way of knowing this, so Iā€™ll quickly explain. Judy does not usually attend our baseball games (not saying that is good or bad, itā€™s just a fact). Nice cheap shot though.

And just so youā€™ll know, I personally would never approach Judy about this; but if someone else did take this approach, I would see nothing wrong with it. Shoot, with all your connections, why donā€™t you ask her. ::)[/quote]

Who ever said I had connections? I knew exactly what you were implying. If I ever had any gripes with Judy I sure as hell wouldnā€™t air them with her at a sporting event.[/quote]

So then when? I mean if you are a $250 donor she sinā€™t going to meet you in her office, you arenā€™t going to see her at a big alumni event because you wonā€™t be invited - so the only time you are going to see her is public events like games and maybe a press conference. So when in your mind is appropriate? For what it is worth I have talked to her at games, press conferences, receptions and she has always been pleasant and answered questions I had to the best of her ability.[/quote]

Thereā€™s a tactful way to do it if youā€™re going to do that route. Some have it, others clearly donā€™t.

I have only met her a couple of times at a few events and always found her friendly. I know some think sheā€™s evil control freak and out to destroy our athletic department while others have a hard time seeing any faults in her. Sheā€™s a polarizing figure to many, thatā€™s for sure. I generally have no real beef with her and no I havenā€™t agreed with every decision sheā€™s made.

Whenever I have felt the need to complain about a decision or express a concern, I sent her an email and always got a reply. I donā€™t know if thatā€™s true of everyone and I have no ā€œinsideā€ connections or any of that to know how she is in private.

I donā€™t know Judy. Never met her before. But Iā€™ve had several conversations with her via email over a number of things iā€™ve had questions/concerns with regarding the basketball program (most recently our radio deal).

She has always gone way above and beyond in answering the questions i had in the most thoughtful way possible. It shocked me honestly, especially considering some of the things iā€™ve heard about her and her general attitude towards the base.

I donā€™t know Judy. Never met her before. But Iā€™ve had several conversations with her via email over a number of things iā€™ve had questions/concerns with regarding the basketball program (most recently our radio deal).

She has always gone way above and beyond in answering the questions i had in the most thoughtful way possible. It shocked me honestly, especially considering some of the things iā€™ve heard about her and her general attitude towards the base.[/quote]

Oh no doubt both she and Phil are great via email. My point was if you wanted to talk to her face to face and you arenā€™t a high dollar donor the only way to do it is at a sporting event. So a notion that it is improper to talk to her at these events is insane. She is there and she runs athletics and you are a paying customer. I donā€™t see a single issue with talking about matters in those settings.

I donā€™t know Judy. Never met her before. But Iā€™ve had several conversations with her via email over a number of things iā€™ve had questions/concerns with regarding the basketball program (most recently our radio deal).

She has always gone way above and beyond in answering the questions i had in the most thoughtful way possible. It shocked me honestly, especially considering some of the things iā€™ve heard about her and her general attitude towards the base.[/quote]

Oh no doubt both she and Phil are great via email. My point was if you wanted to talk to her face to face and you arenā€™t a high dollar donor the only way to do it is at a sporting event. So a notion that it is improper to talk to her at these events is insane. She is there and she runs athletics and you are a paying customer. I donā€™t see a single issue with talking about matters in those settings.[/quote]

I have spoken to her a couple of times at Pics after a basketball game and she could not have been nicer. Granted itā€™s not a sporting event, but still she was very cordial.

I donā€™t know Judy. Never met her before. But Iā€™ve had several conversations with her via email over a number of things iā€™ve had questions/concerns with regarding the basketball program (most recently our radio deal).

She has always gone way above and beyond in answering the questions i had in the most thoughtful way possible. It shocked me honestly, especially considering some of the things iā€™ve heard about her and her general attitude towards the base.[/quote]

Oh no doubt both she and Phil are great via email. My point was if you wanted to talk to her face to face and you arenā€™t a high dollar donor the only way to do it is at a sporting event. So a notion that it is improper to talk to her at these events is insane. She is there and she runs athletics and you are a paying customer. I donā€™t see a single issue with talking about matters in those settings.[/quote]

I have spoken to her a couple of times at Pics after a basketball game and she could not have been nicer. Granted itā€™s not a sporting event, but still she was very cordial.[/quote]

Same here. The conversations Iā€™ve had with her have been very cordial.

Itā€™s funny how one little statement I made got so twisted around in one posterā€™s constant attempts to throw cheap shots at me.

http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2013/04/09/lutz-interested-in-vacant-fgcu-position/

Lutz wants FGCU

[quote=ā€œdonkeyjaws, post:56, topic:27692ā€]http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2013/04/09/lutz-interested-in-vacant-fgcu-position/

Lutz wants FGCU[/quote]

Their fans are hilarious. They s*** on us and Coach Lutz during his whole tenure, but now that heā€™s AHC and theyā€™ve massively underachieved for the past 2 years, State fans are sad if heā€™s leaving. Give me a f***ing break.

Why would Lutz go to FGC if heā€™s still on our payroll? He can try for a comparable head coaching job next year.

ā€¦unless he just wants to get out of Raleigh ASAP.

[quote=ā€œ4ever niner, post:58, topic:27692ā€]Why would Lutz go to FGC if heā€™s still on our payroll? He can try for a comparable head coaching job next year.

ā€¦unless he just wants to get out of Raleigh ASAP.[/quote]

I donā€™t know how much assistants at NCSU make, but a HC job at a upper-level mid-major could be greater than his previous combined salary + assistant salary. Letā€™s assume he makes what our top assistant makes (I believe), which is $110k. His previous salary was $250k (I believe).

A head coaching gig could easily be >$360k. Didnā€™t Marshall make $900k at Wichita State this year?

[quote=ā€œeason49, post:59, topic:27692ā€][quote=ā€œ4ever niner, post:58, topic:27692ā€]Why would Lutz go to FGC if heā€™s still on our payroll? He can try for a comparable head coaching job next year.

ā€¦unless he just wants to get out of Raleigh ASAP.[/quote]

I donā€™t know how much assistants at NCSU make, but a HC job at a upper-level mid-major could be greater than his previous combined salary + assistant salary. Letā€™s assume he makes what our top assistant makes (I believe), which is $110k. His previous salary was $250k (I believe).

A head coaching gig could easily be >$360k. Didnā€™t Marshall make $900k at Wichita State this year?[/quote]

Marshall made over $1.2M in base salary I think.