Charlotte vs. EZU (12/1)

Major landed Thorne, 6'10 240lbs, so that does away with one part of your ignorance.
...the year before and still wanted Guilmette because he either already knew he was a better center, or thought he was skilled enough to play some beside of him at PF longterm. Probably both.
The post that was "just before he signed with ECU" was from April dude, April. Signing days start in November. #JustSayin
His stock didn't drop by early September. If anything it was only continuing to rise when we got him. Pretty easy to see why at this point. You had no one commited and still had a scholarship you were chasing centers with the entire year. You can believe you with drew all you want, but regardless it's still going to sting having to see so much of him the next 4 years because the guy is going to be a great player here.

[quote=“StillJonesing, post:61, topic:27125”]Major landed Thorne, 6’10 240lbs, so that does away with one part of your ignorance.
…the year before and still wanted Guilmette because he either already knew he was a better center, or thought he was skilled enough to play some beside of him at PF longterm. Probably both.

The post that was "just before he signed with ECU" was from April dude, April. Signing days start in November. #JustSayin
His stock didn't drop by early September. If anything it was only continuing to rise when we got him. Pretty easy to see why at this point. You had no one commited and still had a scholarship you were chasing centers with the entire year. You can believe you with drew all you want, but regardless it's still going to sting having to see so much of him the next 4 years because the guy is going to be a great player here.[/quote]I didn't say Guilmette's stock dropped. Just that we weren't mentioned at all with him for an extended period of time leading up to signing day. I'm happy with Clayton and Clark, you'll get to deal with them for 4 years too.

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Major landed Thorne, 6’10 240lbs, so that does away with one part of your ignorance.

…the year before and still wanted Guilmette because he either already knew he was a better center, or thought he was skilled enough to play some beside of him at PF longterm. Probably both.

The post that was "just before he signed with ECU" was from April dude, April. Signing days start in November. #JustSayin
His stock didn't drop by early September. If anything it was only continuing to rise when we got him. Pretty easy to see why at this point. You had no one commited and still had a scholarship you were chasing centers with the entire year. You can believe you with drew all you want, but regardless it's still going to sting having to see so much of him the next 4 years because the guy is going to be a great player here.[/quote]

yeah, he will be a great player for ecu. not for charlotte. i am quite confident that thorne will be a better player. trust me, none of us here are losing sleep thinking about guilmette. again, you have not said anything about the uncg game.

[quote=“StillJonesing, post:61, topic:27125”]

Major landed Thorne, 6’10 240lbs, so that does away with one part of your ignorance.

…the year before and still wanted Guilmette because he either already knew he was a better center, or thought he was skilled enough to play some beside of him at PF longterm. Probably both.

The post that was "just before he signed with ECU" was from April dude, April. Signing days start in November. #JustSayin
His stock didn't drop by early September. If anything it was only continuing to rise when we got him. Pretty easy to see why at this point. You had no one commited and still had a scholarship you were chasing centers with the entire year. You can believe you with drew all you want, but regardless it's still going to sting having to see so much of him the next 4 years because the guy is going to be a great player here.[/quote]

back in the day, i was a “Great Player” on a team that went 3-7 (Football).

Niner55 I doubt your crystal ball future predicting is any better than it was on Wakefield Ellison. I remember a few years ago you said he would be a stud for us after you saw him in some all star game, and he was horrible and is horrible in D2. Probably the worst player I have ever seen at ECU. Good call on that one and you can see why I don’t put much stock in your player evaluations.

We started slow vs UNCG, got behind by 14 at one point and then one of our newcomers Akeem Richmond who was an all A10 freshman you might be familar with since you recruited him and he’s torched you in the past, decided to take the game over. He had about 16 points in 3 minutes. We had an 8 point lead in the last minute until they started fouling and hit a couple prayers from nearly half court. They also have a really good guard and won Southern Conference North last year and were predicted to be one of the better teams in that conference this year. Some little Rudy who hadn’t hit a three all year decided to go nuts vs us too, not much more to say other than we had the better team and took over when we needed too.

[quote=“StillJonesing, post:65, topic:27125”]Niner55 I doubt your crystal ball future predicting is any better than it was on Wakefield Ellison. I remember a few years ago you said he would be a stud for us after you saw him in some all star game, and he was horrible and is horrible in D2. Probably the worst player I have ever seen at ECU. Good call on that one and you can see why I don’t put much stock in your player evaluations.

We started slow vs UNCG, got behind by 14 at one point and then one of our newcomers Akeem Richmond who was an all A10 freshman you might be familar with since you recruited him and he’s torched you in the past, decided to take the game over. He had about 16 points in 3 minutes. We had an 8 point lead in the last minute until they started fouling and hit a couple prayers from nearly half court. They have a really good guard and won Southern Conference North last year and were predicted to be one of the better teams in that conference this year. They also had some little Rudy who hadn’t hit a three all year go nuts vs us, not much more to say other than we had the better team and took over when we needed too.[/quote]

and you won by three. the bottom line is you were down by fourteen to uncg at home. good teams dont do that. it wasent like you just started slow. we start slow but you guys were down for most of the game. richmond torched us how many years ago? how is that relevant? he also left rhode island because he was not going to be a starter anymore. that is what players like that do. when they realize that they will not start anymore, they transfer to ecu. martin iti was a freshmen all conference player so i would not put a lot of stock in that. he is a pretty good three point shooter but that is it. we recruited him under lutz not major. if you were as good as you say you are, you would not get down that much to uncg.

Some more recent history happened on 12/3/11. Charlotte 76, EZU 64. Charlotte was up by 19 with 5:49 left to play. I can’t believe that EZU would count the Washington & Lee game as a win. Even Washington & Lee counted it as a scrimmage. They probably were just trying to get their guys some experience and you guys were going for a win :p. You guys are a joke and I’ll wager that you don’t score 60 points against us. $100 to the Athletic funds of the winning school. All also bet you that we win by double figures. Same bet.

Good team lose to bad teams all the time early in the year, especially when they get 18 points from a role player and have a big time player like Simpson. It was also the first game our PG Paul had played, we had our kinks to work out as well.

richmond torched us how many years ago? how is that relevant?
Wait so jr high school year recruiting rankings are still relavant in your world, but actual college production isn't?
he also left rhode island because he was not going to be a starter anymore. that is what players like that do. when they realize that they will not start anymore, they transfer to ecu.
So let me get this straight, he started and played major minutes on RI teams that won 48 games and went to the NIT final 4 his two years but wouldnt have started on the one last year that won 4 games last year. LOL, sure, you do know a lot about basketball. He's not starting for us either. In fact he played just 16 minutes last game. Had 16 points though. That should tell you something about our talent level and depth.

Good team lose to bad teams all the time early in the year, especially when they get 18 points from a role player and have a big time player like Simpson. It was also the first game our PG Paul had played, we had our kinks to work out as well.[/quote]

I don’t recall us having those issues the first game any of our players played.

Good team lose to bad teams all the time early in the year, especially when they get 18 points from a role player and have a big time player like Simpson. It was also the first game our PG Paul had played, we had our kinks to work out as well.

richmond torched us how many years ago? how is that relevant?
Wait so jr high school year recruiting rankings are still relavant in your world, but actual college production isn't?
he also left rhode island because he was not going to be a starter anymore. that is what players like that do. when they realize that they will not start anymore, they transfer to ecu.
So let me get this straight, he started and played major minutes on RI teams that won 48 games and went to the NIT final 4 his two years but wouldnt have started on the one last year that won 4 games last year. LOL, sure, you do know a lot about basketball. He's not starting for us either. In fact he played just 16 minutes last game. Had 16 points though. That should tell you something about our talent level and depth.[/quote]

yeah. that is why he transferred. everybody on the rhode island board knew it. all he wanted to do is shoot threes and thought he should get more playing time. all his point productions shows me is that he likes to shoot threes. what if those threes did not go down? why else would he transfer to ecu if it were not for playing time? maybe to be closer to home but certainly not because of the direction that ecu is headed. he is a solid player but not what you are making him out to be. just out of curiosity, what is your starting lineup?

Some more recent history happened on 12/3/11. Charlotte 76, EZU 64. Charlotte was up by 19 with 5:49 left to play. I can’t believe that EZU would count the Washington & Lee game as a win. Even Washington & Lee counted it as a scrimmage. They probably were just trying to get their guys some experience and you guys were going for a win :stuck_out_tongue: . You guys are a joke and I’ll wager that you don’t score 60 points against us. $100 to the Athletic funds of the winning school. All also bet you that we win by double figures. Same bet.[/quote]sj doesn’t bet on single games because he’s a bitch with no balls.

Sj, here are the only numbers that matter. Coming into this year, st Lebo is 27 -31. He’s never finished above 7th place in the conference. The only post season tourney you’ve played in, you had to cut a check to walk through the door. This year you are 1-0 and that win was a come from behind 3 pt win against a bad team at home.

Oh, and st Lebo has a losing record against the coach and program you believe you’ve past.

So for arguments sake, let’s just agree that ecu is getting better players and has a better coach than us. At what point do you start winning games? Is there a timeline you have? How many years can Lebo continue to lose more than he wins until you cut him loose and anoint your next savior?

[quote=“casstommy, post:72, topic:27125”]Sj, here are the only numbers that matter. Coming into this year, st Lebo is 27 -31. He’s never finished above 7th place in the conference. The only post season tourney you’ve played in, you had to cut a check to walk through the door. This year you are 1-0 and that win was a come from behind 3 pt win against a bad team at home.

Oh, and st Lebo has a losing record against the coach and program you believe you’ve past.

So for arguments sake, let’s just agree that ecu is getting better players and has a better coach than us. At what point do you start winning games? Is there a timeline you have? How many years can Lebo continue to lose more than he wins until you cut him loose and anoint your next savior?[/quote]

SJ is a quack, but be tread lightly with arguments like this. Glass houses and all that.

I don’t think anyone is convinced major is the answer. And for me, this season will make up my mind one way or another.

This is about the fact that Charlotte is, and will always be a better basketball program than ecu.

Men’s Basketball - East Carolina Pirates (2012-2013)

RPI Rank: 229 SOS Rank: 302 Record: 1-0 (0-0)
Conference: Conference USA

Per RealTimeRPI.com as of 11/17/12

SJ = SUCKS
LEBO + SJ = SUCKS HARD
SJ + LEBO + ECU Basketball =SUCKS REALLY HARD
SJ + LEBO + ECU Basketball - DIVISIONS II and III Schools = NOT EVEN 20 WINS

Stith plays 2A ball in VA, with 3A being the highest in the state. Not a whole lot of talent comes out of 2A (besides me). Best 2a player of recent memory is josh hairston at duke, but he transferred to montrose christian in maryland his sr yr, and ran aau with dc assault. As far as his seven blocks, I played center at times in 2a ball in va. At his size he should have that many.

I don’t care what level it was, 7 blocks a game shows incredible instincts and with a 7-1 wingspan on the perimiter I expect he will alter a lot of shots at this level too with that timing. 80% from the free throw line should translate wherever, and no Lester didn’t have anyone guarding him when he was shooting 50 something percent from the line either when you guys want to excuse away his horrid percentages. Stith was also was Player of the Year over his 4 star brother going to Virginia so it’s not like he didn’t have some compeition for that honor either.

You don’t need great instincts to block someone significantly shorter than you. It gives you enough of a cushion for delay that instincts aren’t required.

The funny thing is we all pretty much want ECU to be good, the better they are the better CUSA is when we arrive next season. But SJ makes it so hard to like them. Everyone over on the CUSA Boards thinks he is the biggest tool as well, even ECU fans hate the guy. Kind of funny really.

SJ isn’t really concerned about the past, because the Pirates have never done anything. Can you imagine what he would be like if say ECU has the success Charlotte did eight or so years ago. That’s all he would talk about.

As far as Guilmette goes, you guys would be crazy to take Thorne over him. Guilmette is going to be an all league player in his junior and senior years.

SJ, how is your botfriend Stiemsma going as the best combination of shot blocking/ pick and pop shooter in the world? Haha this just show you no absolutly nothing about basketball. Yet, you will choose to irgnore this post cause you are wrong. You only choose to reply posts you can argue against. Please tell me more about Stiemsma and your reasoning behind this? I dare you