So which is it. You donāt want to count them as wins like the NCAA because that would give Lebo a winning record overall, but when I post something like RPI you decide you want to count them then. Make up your mind.
Bottomline is our program has improved a lot under Lebo. Yours has been a lot worse any way you look at it. We are also postioned a lot better for our present and future.[/quote]
The problem is that you tout both your record and rpi when the numbers donāt match up. You say you when 15-16 last season against the 167th ranked rpi which is better than our 13-17 against the 170th rpi. Problem is that you actually went 11-16 against the 167th ranked rpi which is not better than us. You try to brag about both at the same time, which is particularly funny because neither is something to be bragged about.
[quote=āwild-Bill49, post:160, topic:27125ā][quote=āLebo Fluffer, post:159, topic:27125ā]Yes, because we know one game is represenative of the entire season and career. That would make Brisco one of the best players in the coutnry if you just look at last years game, and Morrow was a pathetic scrub who didnāt score a point in 36 minutes.
Kemp: 6-8 SFā¦19.5ppg 8.5rpg 3apg. 2spg. 2bpg this season [/quote]
Iām using the body of work of Charlotte vs. ECU to make a point. You claim we donāt have anyone who can match up with Kemp, yet last year we didnāt seem to have a problem doing so. Iām using actual evidence of us playing you guys. How am I in the wrong on that? Educate me.[/quote]I like you. Stick around and post more often.
Iāve not bragged about our record, in fact Iāve alwayed used the RPI to compare our progress. Thatās what itās for and the NCAA selection commitee uses it for as well to compare teams none of which face apples to apples schedules. You absoultly coundnāt compare our schools that first year without it when we played the #42 strongest SOS in the nation vs your #127th vs the SAME amount of D1 teams.
Bottomline is we have played more top 100 teams, beat more of them and had better seasons under Lebo, despite having taken over a program 150 spots lower than yours the year before he took over.
One more point here. You can pretend like players like Bowden, Richmond, Gaines, Straughn etc. are ābadā but they are proven.
Gaines and Straughn started on our top 100 team 2 years ago, Gaines even played the most minutes a game on that team. Bowden was the 2nd best 3 point shooter in CUSA, and Richmond was an All A10 freshman on a 28 win team. These players are all role players on our team behind Kemp and Paul, but they are great role players at what they do. Hardly ābadā.
Iāve not bragged about our record, in fact Iāve alwayed used the RPI to compare our progress. Thatās what itās for and the NCAA selection commitee uses it for as well to compare teams none of which face apples to apples schedules. You absoultly coundnāt compare our schools that first year without it when we played the #42 strongest SOS in the nation vs your #127th vs the SAME amount of D1 teams.
Bottomline is we have played more top 100 teams, beat more of them and had better seasons under Lebo, despite having taken over a program 150 spots lower than yours the year before he took over.[/quote]
SJ,
Bottomline is we still own a winning record against you guys with Major as coach. You can say that the program has declined, but beware because it hasnāt declined enough that we lose to you guys more than you lose to us. We can keep going back and forth, but when we play each other then that will settle it for this year. Just like last season we settled it for last year. You can tout the RPI, wins, anything you want, however all you need to know is that Charlotte was 1-0 against East Carolina and East Carolina was 0-1 against Charlotte last season. Until you beat us this season I donāt understand how you can say that you are better than us. Just take your medicine like a big boy.
This might be the first person on this message board to actually say weāve gotten worse under Major. I think even the most ardent Major haters have said, begrudgingly, that we have improved year over year under him.
Looking at what Indiana and MSU have done with similar situations (6 or less scholarship players for a season), Iām actually impressed with how many games we won that first year.
I donāt normally engage Still Jonesinā, cause it is wasted time, but I also think it is funny to say weāre relying on Lutz players. Braswell is the only Lutz player here, and the only one that Major kept on board. The rest were told they were going to be bench players and left. Braswell is also a Bobby recruit, but he is definitely a Major player now. He was only with Bobby for one year and he plays Major ball, not Lutz ball. This team is the antithesis of a Bobby Lutz team. Slower tempo, less jump shots, more defensive intensity and less gambling on defense.
Watching the Butler and Illinois game (featuring two Thad Matta disciples), you could see where we are headed. They are two schools that play the way we do, with better players. Brad Stephens is a much better coach, but heās also the best coach in the collegiate game, and John Groce has a much better roster, but he is coaching at Illinois.
I definitely see us following the Butler model, 3 and 4* guys that play physical defense. If you have a scorer, work to get them shots. Otherwise, run your offense for the best shot possible. I havenāt actually watched EZU this year because I didnāt know that anyone watched EZU basketball. And the fact that so many people are talking about them is sad, but I guess weāre kinda bored these days.
Huh, so 64 teams made it into the NCAA, 32 into the NITā¦ I guess you guys must have been like #97? I canāt believe you guys didnāt revolt for getting snubbed from the NIT! Man, top 100 team. That is impressive. You guys have any holidays set up to memorialize that season? I heard a Lebo statue was being designed, I wonder if it is in honor of that season.
too bad you lost in the CIT first round. At Home. To Jacksonville.
He didnāt have a bad night. Armstrong played well and Sampson was eating up all the rebounds. This wasnāt a great game for him when App at 6-6 guards in the post and were playing up tempo. He is a lot better suited for games with teams with legit size and a game with a player like Braswell.
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I must admit, you are fantastic to have around for a good laugh. What part of Guilmette makes you think he is āmeantā to defend players like Braswell? Was it his stellar performance against that mighty DIII talent, followed by his last flop against DI competition?
Come on SJ, I thought I knew you better than that. You were just jerking this guy off like two weeks ago talking about we wish we had your legit big man. Your legit bigman has less rebounds per game than either of our āpetiteā big men, who are playing less minutes by the way.
BTW Iām still waiting on Bowdenās shooting percentage to skyrocket off the chartsā¦
Paul can score, but he has bad shooting nights sometimes. He does other things well enough to make up for it most of the time though.
He's one of the best PG's in the nation, period.
Guilmette had a bad night against App, but he is still a question mark. I personally think he'll struggle mightily against D1 teams. He does make good passes though.
He didn't have a bad night. Armstrong played well and Sampson was eating up all the rebounds. This wasn't a great game for him when App at 6-6 guards in the post and were playing up tempo. He is a lot better suited for games with teams with legit size and a game with a player like Braswell.
Sampson had a monster rebounding game against App and he is a decent player overall.
He's 6-8 and shot 44% from 3 last year with a messed up shooting hand that bothered him for 2 months. He's better than decent.
The rest of ECU is mediocre to bad. App lost by 30+ to High Point, but were within 3 of ECU with about 2 minutes left. That makes two bad D1 teams in a row that ECU was in serious danger of losing to.
Work on your math. App didn't lose by that much to HP and we beat them by 10. If you want to play that game we had about a 10 point lead over UNCG in the last 2 minutes until they started throwing up prayers.
They don't have anyone that can match up with Braswell.
[b]You don't have anyone that can match up with Kemp or Paul so I still like our chances.[/b] I think Guilmette, Armstrong and Sampson will do just fine though.[/quote]
Really, like your chances now, do you? Cause Iāve asked you to bet on this game straight up for the last couple of years and youāve made some terribly scared excuses. Its still there for you if you want it. That would prove that you like your chances. Otherwise, shut up.
OKā¦so far this year:
Charlotteās RPI = 123 ECU RPI = 262
Charlotte Wins
Beat #255
Beat #112 by 13
Beat #160 by 21
ECU Wins
2 against non Div 1 opponents (and 2 more on the schedule)
*Reallyā¦who schedules 4 games against non-Div 1 teamsā¦really?
Beat #233 at home by 3 pts
Beat #326 at home by 10 pts
Plusā¦I think we won by 12 at ECU last year and gave Davidson their worst loss of the year (by 23). We finished 13-17 and ECU finished 11-16 (against Div 1 teams - again, you played 4 games against non Div 1 opponents!).
We punk you by 12 pts at YOUR place
We donāt schedule ANY non-D1 teamsā¦you schedule 4 per year.
You are squeaking out wins at home vs 250+ RPI teams
[quote=āKTown49er, post:171, topic:27125ā]OKā¦so far this year:
Charlotteās RPI = 123 ECU RPI = 262
Charlotte Wins
Beat #255
Beat #112 by 13
Beat #160 by 21
ECU Wins
2 against non Div 1 opponents (and 2 more on the schedule)
*Reallyā¦who schedules 4 games against non-Div 1 teamsā¦really?
Beat #233 at home by 3 pts
Beat #326 at home by 10 pts
Plusā¦I think we won by 12 at ECU last year and gave Davidson their worst loss of the year (by 23). We finished 13-17 and ECU finished 11-16 (against Div 1 teams - again, you played 4 games against non Div 1 opponents!).
We punk you by 12 pts at YOUR place
We donāt schedule ANY non-D1 teamsā¦you schedule 4 per year.
You are squeaking out wins at home vs 250+ RPI teams
So which is it. You treat them like they donāt exist and donāt want to count them as wins like the NCAA because that would give Lebo a winning record overall, but when I post something like RPI you decide you want to count them then. Make up your mind.
Bottomline is our program has improved a lot under Lebo. Yours has been a lot worse any way you look at it. We are also postioned a lot better for our present and future.[/quote]
I explained it very clearly. Those games are scheduled to avoid RPI hits and potential loses, hence why you play them. I mentioned that as the reason your RPI was ONLY 5 higher than us last year but you conveniently keep using RPI and results over the last two years which fits your argument because we lost two starters, including our best player, early in the season.
You spin. Simple as that. And since you refuse to acknowledge that youāre a fraud.
So which is it. You donāt want to count them as wins like the NCAA because that would give Lebo a winning record overall, but when I post something like RPI you decide you want to count them then. Make up your mind.
Bottomline is our program has improved a lot under Lebo. Yours has been a lot worse any way you look at it. We are also postioned a lot better for our present and future.[/quote]
The problem is that you tout both your record and rpi when the numbers donāt match up. You say you when 15-16 last season against the 167th ranked rpi which is better than our 13-17 against the 170th rpi. Problem is that you actually went 11-16 against the 167th ranked rpi which is not better than us. You try to brag about both at the same time, which is particularly funny because neither is something to be bragged about.[/quote]
Huh, so 64 teams made it into the NCAA, 32 into the NITā¦ I guess you guys must have been like #97? I canāt believe you guys didnāt revolt for getting snubbed from the NIT! Man, top 100 team. That is impressive. You guys have any holidays set up to memorialize that season? I heard a Lebo statue was being designed, I wonder if it is in honor of that season.
too bad you lost in the CIT first round. At Home. To Jacksonville.[/quote]
That canāt be right, because the top 4 seeds got byes to the quarterfinal round. That means, that you have the 96 teams in the NCAA and NIT, then the 4 top seeds in the CIT, making 100. ECU must have been snubbed by not getting one of those byes if they were top 100. Man, I bet ECU fans were up in arms (of course, most of them were more pissed that UNC-CHeat only got a #2 seed in the NCAA tournament).
Huh, so 64 teams made it into the NCAA, 32 into the NITā¦ I guess you guys must have been like #97? I canāt believe you guys didnāt revolt for getting snubbed from the NIT! Man, top 100 team. That is impressive. You guys have any holidays set up to memorialize that season? I heard a Lebo statue was being designed, I wonder if it is in honor of that season.
too bad you lost in the CIT first round. At Home. To Jacksonville.[/quote]
That canāt be right, because the top 4 seeds got byes to the quarterfinal round. That means, that you have the 96 teams in the NCAA and NIT, then the 4 top seeds in the CIT, making 100. ECU must have been snubbed by not getting one of those byes if they were top 100. Man, I bet ECU fans were up in arms (of course, most of them were more pissed that UNC-CHeat only got a #2 seed in the NCAA tournament).[/quote]
Our average margin of victory over the Pirates in Halton is 21.2 points. They are winless here and the closest theyāve ever come is a 12 point loss.
They have won 6 games against us, only 2 in the city of Charlotte and those were in the 80s under Hal Wissel. Theyāve blown us out once, in 1995. We own them and we will destroy them this year.
You can take it to the bank, this will be the best start in program history.
