As a Jeep owner, when I saw this a couple days ago I was floored. I’ll never buy a car that does this, which may mean no Jeep ever again. Not to mention they are incredibly overpriced.
It’s one thing to treat a customer like the product when you’re giving them a free service a la Google. It’s another when you buy a $100k Jeep Wagoneer. This is beyond idiotic.
And I agree with you about the class action. People didn’t agree to that when buying their cars.
clt blames boeing
You should try to watch this old movie I saw when I was 14 years old. You’ll love it. They say Boeing a lot in it. Hint: the title.
Self driving cars are complete vaporware.
It’s a grift by the tech industry.
And otherwise intelligent people actually believe it’s possible.
Never gonna happen.
And I don’t want to hear about cars that are self driving in certain specific conditions like perfectly mapped very small areas.
Call me when I can call an autonomous uber to anywhere at any time of day or night in a rainstorm.
The self driving car is gonna happen. I’d argue the current version of it is better than many drivers we have on the road now. As a motorcycle rider I am hyper aware of the decline in quality drivers on the road.
The biggest thing will be the legality of incidents. If a self driving car causes an accident who is fault?
I have a friend with an Escalade that supposedly is somewhat a self parking/driving vehicle. There ain’t a panel on that damn thing that doesn’t have ding or dent, lol.
Gonna be a while before I jump into a self driving car
Been looking like we’d see self driving trucks as a norm before cars.
I have a friend with an escalade with scratches and dents all over it but I am certain its just the wife cant drive.
Not all of them…my dad bought a “used” 78 Trans Am around 1982. The car had every factory option available, and also had a Hurst racing transmission, with a shifter kit. The guy that bought it new and then “built it out” had to sell it after losing his job apparently, but had raced it “regularly” at Shuffletown Dragway (for the long time Charlotteans) and from I was told, he had never lost a race out there. I can’t confirm that, but I can tell you that neither myself or my dad EVER got outrun on the streets…not by Corvette’s, hopped up other sports cars…legit, to this day, it is still the fastest car I have ever driven myself. It was an automatic, but with that shifter kit, you could change gears, but without a clutch. However, even without using that shifter, it would spin the tires changing multiple gears on dry pavement…even though it also had “positive traction”. I would LOVE to have that car back in the condition it was in when dad finally sold in the late 80s…
edit, forgot to mention at one point (before dad got it) the guy had nitrous in it as well…it still had a toggle switch for that on the dash. 
Pretty sure that’s a factor as well, lol
Haha that makes a difference.
Those cars had gigantic motors, 400 CI if I recall, but choked down with emission control stuff and MPG crap. The 70s were such a sad time after the performance models of the 60s, thanks govt regulation and oil embargo - trading HP for MPG. Stock horsepower would top out between 200 and 230 depending on options where 60s models would have well over 300. The torque though was legit not sure exactly what it was but I know it was above 300 which would launch those things from the line - just dont ask for much top end. Decent for the time, but its nuts that now a civic si with a 4 banger a turbo is doing 200hp.
Sweet looking cars for sure and sound amazing. very similar to the mustangs of the time too, My buddy had a 82 mustang gt and it would absolutely blister guys off the line, but that was about all it had.
The stock 78 transam quarter mile was like 15 seconds
Stock 85 corvetter ran the quarter in 14.5
A stock 2024 civic SI runs the quarter in 13.5
For comparison
60s era gto would run the quarter in 13 seconds with a 389 in it.
The legendary 427 cobra would run it in 12.
My 50 year old MG with a 4 is doing around 80 HP and like 90 torque
My 25 year old M roadster with an inline 3.2 6 is doing 300plus HP and 280 torque.
My 15 year old infiniti g37 with a 3.7 v6 is doing 330 hp and nearly 300 torque.
Crazy how performance keeps going up so that a 4 door accord is doing what performance models of yesterday did.
And that isn’t even getting into the performance of the toaster appliance like EVs.
Where something like the base rivian truck has 500 HP/610 torque
Should have never been shut down.
Was there for years then people moved close and complained. Hello you moved near a drag strip. STFO
clt says a honda odyssey is near 15 even now
I feel you on the legality. That’s another issue I didn’t bring up because the tech is never going to work. But your right even if the tech worked, which it won’t (with all due respect, and remember I’m saying with all due respect, it ain’t ever gonna be good enough) the legalities will keep them off the road.
A self driving car already killed someone in SF and they shut the program down.
I have not heard if they brought it back or not.
Big fine and banned from importing diesel engines into the country for 5 years.
Disappointing. I’ve been a fan of Toyota / Lexus in the past.
Yeah, im sure the nitrous was crazy but that wasnt in it when we had it. It wasn’t needed.
The torque was incredible. If you gave it much throttle at all,everyone in the car was pinned back against their seat. You could not lean forward.
clt says auto start/stop is like a library in mooresville. not needed.