As it stands today, Davidson has a greater name recognition than us. Its just a fact. They play in march. We dont. It doesnt matter how they get there
[quote=â919R, post:60, topic:28044â][quote=âUC Niner, post:56, topic:28044â]I stay very quiet on here, but I look at it like this:
Suggesting that the Davidson rivalry isnât good is silly to me. Itâs a basketball game that is consistently looked forward to for both fan-bases, and personally I love beating the snot out of them. At this point in Charlotte basketball, itâs a favor that they play us. Iâm sorry, it is. Our program right now, in the present time, is below Davidson in regards of success. Forget tradition and past success.
A rivalry with Appalachian State with football is common sense to me. Who are we going to get that will be a huge game? The chain is like this:
- NC State desperately wants to be rivals with Chapel Hill, who donât care enough about football to worry about it (as they obviously have Duke for basketball) and look down at State as it is.
- ECU would LOVE to be a chief rival with NC State, but State views themselves as above ECU and would not like to be seen as the main non-conference rival of ECU.
- Charlotte and App would both love to have a chief rivalry with ECU, but ECU is not going to do that with two new FBS programs.
Charlotte and App should be linked together. We are both transitioning to FBS football in the same phase of realignment. While I believe Charlotte has more potential than App in terms of growth, I personally donât see the jump being higher than the AAC. There is no reason for us, a program that has not played a down, for us to have fans who view a rivalry with App as something that would hurt our brand. Just my humble opinion.[/quote]
NO way are we beneath Davidson even now. You say to forget tradition and success, so what are you looking at then? Davidson has exactly ZERO at-large NCAA bids EVER. They had one great run, 5 years ago and we even beat them that year. I understand someone who still thinks Stephen Curry is at Davidson thinking this, but he is not. 27-10 including a winning record EVEN over the last few years against them. We punked them in their own gym last season. There is no basis for Davidson being âabove usâ even now unless you are still being blinded by that one NCAA run and if thats the case, I guess George Mason is above us as well.[/quote]
Davidson has much more recognition than we do in the college basketball world at this point in time. Itâs like casstommy said, itâs just a fact. I donât like it, but itâs the truth. Just beating them does nothing change that in the national landscape. Now if we go dancing, then that will be a different story.
[quote=âUC Niner, post:62, topic:28044â][quote=â919R, post:60, topic:28044â][quote=âUC Niner, post:56, topic:28044â]I stay very quiet on here, but I look at it like this:
Suggesting that the Davidson rivalry isnât good is silly to me. Itâs a basketball game that is consistently looked forward to for both fan-bases, and personally I love beating the snot out of them. At this point in Charlotte basketball, itâs a favor that they play us. Iâm sorry, it is. Our program right now, in the present time, is below Davidson in regards of success. Forget tradition and past success.
A rivalry with Appalachian State with football is common sense to me. Who are we going to get that will be a huge game? The chain is like this:
- NC State desperately wants to be rivals with Chapel Hill, who donât care enough about football to worry about it (as they obviously have Duke for basketball) and look down at State as it is.
- ECU would LOVE to be a chief rival with NC State, but State views themselves as above ECU and would not like to be seen as the main non-conference rival of ECU.
- Charlotte and App would both love to have a chief rivalry with ECU, but ECU is not going to do that with two new FBS programs.
Charlotte and App should be linked together. We are both transitioning to FBS football in the same phase of realignment. While I believe Charlotte has more potential than App in terms of growth, I personally donât see the jump being higher than the AAC. There is no reason for us, a program that has not played a down, for us to have fans who view a rivalry with App as something that would hurt our brand. Just my humble opinion.[/quote]
NO way are we beneath Davidson even now. You say to forget tradition and success, so what are you looking at then? Davidson has exactly ZERO at-large NCAA bids EVER. They had one great run, 5 years ago and we even beat them that year. I understand someone who still thinks Stephen Curry is at Davidson thinking this, but he is not. 27-10 including a winning record EVEN over the last few years against them. We punked them in their own gym last season. There is no basis for Davidson being âabove usâ even now unless you are still being blinded by that one NCAA run and if thats the case, I guess George Mason is above us as well.[/quote]
Davidson has much more recognition than we do in the college basketball world at this point in time. Itâs like casstommy said, itâs just a fact. I donât like it, but itâs the truth. Just beating them does nothing change that in the national landscape. Now if we go dancing, then that will be a different story.[/quote]
So what youâre saying is that the rivalry does nothing for us.
Thereâs a difference between looking down at someone and just not caring abut them.
#1 Davidson has never made a final four, they canât have finished 3rd.
Davidson had really fallen off though by the late 70âs when we started playing them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sApg2PlD7T0
that video talks a lot about the situation. It really is oddly similar to the situation we face with the Apps today. I think we should play the apps every year. A rivalry would do nothing but grow both programs in this state, and in this region. [/quote]
Ask a fairly knowledgeable hoops fan in the triangle what they know about our rivalry with Davidson and most wonât even know we play each other every year. Especially recruits.
EasyâŚthe young kid who died in that room was my old business partners (and good friends) nephewâŚbad bad situationâŚ
Carry on with the App bashing.
Heck, if playing App is THAT important, letâs just drop down top the Sun Belt Conference so we can call them a conference rival and play them every year.
[quote=âUC Niner, post:62, topic:28044â][quote=â919R, post:60, topic:28044â][quote=âUC Niner, post:56, topic:28044â]I stay very quiet on here, but I look at it like this:
Suggesting that the Davidson rivalry isnât good is silly to me. Itâs a basketball game that is consistently looked forward to for both fan-bases, and personally I love beating the snot out of them. At this point in Charlotte basketball, itâs a favor that they play us. Iâm sorry, it is. Our program right now, in the present time, is below Davidson in regards of success. Forget tradition and past success.
A rivalry with Appalachian State with football is common sense to me. Who are we going to get that will be a huge game? The chain is like this:
- NC State desperately wants to be rivals with Chapel Hill, who donât care enough about football to worry about it (as they obviously have Duke for basketball) and look down at State as it is.
- ECU would LOVE to be a chief rival with NC State, but State views themselves as above ECU and would not like to be seen as the main non-conference rival of ECU.
- Charlotte and App would both love to have a chief rivalry with ECU, but ECU is not going to do that with two new FBS programs.
Charlotte and App should be linked together. We are both transitioning to FBS football in the same phase of realignment. While I believe Charlotte has more potential than App in terms of growth, I personally donât see the jump being higher than the AAC. There is no reason for us, a program that has not played a down, for us to have fans who view a rivalry with App as something that would hurt our brand. Just my humble opinion.[/quote]
NO way are we beneath Davidson even now. You say to forget tradition and success, so what are you looking at then? Davidson has exactly ZERO at-large NCAA bids EVER. They had one great run, 5 years ago and we even beat them that year. I understand someone who still thinks Stephen Curry is at Davidson thinking this, but he is not. 27-10 including a winning record EVEN over the last few years against them. We punked them in their own gym last season. There is no basis for Davidson being âabove usâ even now unless you are still being blinded by that one NCAA run and if thats the case, I guess George Mason is above us as well.[/quote]
Davidson has much more recognition than we do in the college basketball world at this point in time. Itâs like casstommy said, itâs just a fact. I donât like it, but itâs the truth. Just beating them does nothing change that in the national landscape. Now if we go dancing, then that will be a different story.[/quote]
Please, if we had been in the SoCon we probably would have been in the NCAA 2-3 times in the last 5 years as well. As I mentioned before, weâve still been beating them more often than not and they have been dominating that league. Davidson has accomplished NOTHING since 2008 except living off of that year. The only people who know them better than us are the people who have just started watching college bball in the last 5 years.
clt yawns at appy state and suggests a 2 for 1 with Alabama.
We donât need to do a 2 for 1 with them, anyone suggesting that is just being outrageous. Neither of us have done anything at the FBS level to demand that. As far as playing them, if we do, great, if we donât, great. Iâm not really worried about it either way.
I do find it funny that emails between Athletic Departments isnât enough proof for their fans, but hearsay from so and so is. None of them have obviously played the phone game as children.
LOL
In the past decade, Davidson has been to 5 NCAAâs and 2 NITs with 3-5 record at the dance and a handful of wins in the NIT.
In the past decade, weâve been to two NCAAâs with no wins, and 2 NITâs.
By any objective measure, they have had a more successful decade than we have. I dont care what league they play in or what our record is against them. You dont hang banners for wins over Davidson. They get to the Dance. We donât. You can claim weâd have gone more if we played in the SOCON, but we donât. So lets just deal with reality.
Its as simple as that
On 610 this morning, it was stated that we really want to play app but we better be careful what we ask for. The point of the segment was good ooc games you want to see.
Schedule at Vandy. They pay $1 mil, & we can visit the Grand Ole Opry. Iâm not into country music, but it might be cool.
LOL
In the past decade, Davidson has been to 5 NCAAâs and 2 NITs with 3-5 record at the dance and a handful of wins in the NIT.
In the past decade, weâve been to two NCAAâs with no wins, and 2 NITâs.
By any objective measure, they have had a more successful decade than we have. I dont care what league they play in or what our record is against them. You dont hang banners for wins over Davidson. They get to the Dance. We donât. You can claim weâd have gone more if we played in the SOCON, but we donât. So lets just deal with reality.
Its as simple as that[/quote]
Whatever you say----you could probably make the same case about NCAA appearances for someone out of the Pioneer league or MEAC as well. Out of that 3-5 Davidson record, all the wins were in one year. The others were 1st round exits. I think weâve had a âhandful of NIT winsâ in the last decade as well (as if anyone cares about that). Thats the reality!..By your standards we should have just moved down to the lowest/easiest league possible so we âmake the NCAAsâ every year and we could then claim weâre better than anyone in the tough leagues that had less appearances than usâŚGood idea. LOL yourself.
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Typical 610 bullshit.
You say things like âThe others were first round exitsâ as if we have anything other than that to latch to. They have more NCAA success than we have had since 77. Its depressing as hell but its true.
I just dont get the dismissiveness some have of Davidson. Iâd give my left nut to have the past decade they have. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.
You say things like âThe others were first round exitsâ as if we have anything other than that to latch to. They have more NCAA success than we have had since 77. Its depressing as hell but its true.
I just dont get the dismissiveness some have of Davidson. Iâd give my left nut to have the past decade they have. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.[/quote]
Agreed
You say things like âThe others were first round exitsâ as if we have anything other than that to latch to. They have more NCAA success than we have had since 77. Its depressing as hell but its true.
I just dont get the dismissiveness some have of Davidson. Iâd give my left nut to have the past decade they have. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.[/quote]
Agreed[/quote]
I think, as a general rule, others tend to undersell our basketball success and we tend to slightly oversell it. I think we have had a helluva lot of success, but I wouldnât put us in the top-30 programs of all time. My frustration is when other people donât want to put us in the top-100. Hopefully, football will raise the overall profile of the school and peopleâs general awareness of our strong athletics department (soccer, golf, baseball, basketball, etc.) will also see an uptick.
Its a message board and everyone talks trash, I get that.
But Please donât dismiss another schoolâs accomplishments (Davidson) compared to
us. It just makes our program looks even worse.
Iâve stated before and here again.
Charlotte, App and ECU should be on the same page regarding football.
We need to pool resources to lift all programs. It should be US against the
ACC, not US fighting each other. App vs Charlotte vs ECU games would be
a big event in North Carolina.
You say things like âThe others were first round exitsâ as if we have anything other than that to latch to. They have more NCAA success than we have had since 77. Its depressing as hell but its true.
I just dont get the dismissiveness some have of Davidson. Iâd give my left nut to have the past decade they have. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.[/quote]
+1 Niners are a better all time program but Davidson wins the last decade. Iâm ready for the tide to turn.