Finally the Appholes can shutup!

[ninermike]

If the title of our thread is “Finally the Appholes can shutup!” I don’t think we have any room to be calling out their fans or their message board. We should put all the App haters from this board and all the Charlotte haters from their board into a room and not let them come out until they’ve come up with a mutual plan of attack on Chapel Hill College.

[Honest_Niner]

I find it hysterical that people who were fooled into attending that sad excuse of a university continue to believe that they are receiving an actual education. I have witnessed their deliverance style of teaching first hand, as well as the product it produces, and it is nothing short of embarrassing.

I am not saying there aren’t a few intelligent people who are attending app. There may even be as many as five of them right now. Huddled around computers in what passes as their library struggling to figure out where it all went wrong. My thoughts and prayers are with them, and I hope they find within themselves the strength to face up to their mistake and transfer.

P.S To Ninermike: While I do enjoy the spirit in which your post was written, I feel you may have overlooked the fact that if we tried that all the appy’s in the room would immediately turn on us to protect their beloved institution, Chapel Hill.

[NinerWupAss]

@ninermike

If the title of our thread is “Finally the Appholes can shutup!” I don’t think we have any room to be calling out their fans or their message board. We should put all the App haters from this board and all the Charlotte haters from their board into a room and not let them come out until they’ve come up with a mutual plan of attack on Chapel Hill College.

Thats hard to do because most of them are chapel hill basketball fans. Hard to explain why you can get 30k for a football game and not be able to break 2000 in basketball. They take shots at us for passion and fan support when ALL they have is football. I am not joking at all when I say EVERY App fan I know follows Chapel Hill basketball. I know 6 families that are season ticket holders in app football and they are all Chapel Hill basketball fans. I am not saying we don’t have some of those folks, but finding an App basketball fan, or a fan of anything besides football is like finding a needle in a haystack a giant f***ing haystack. Could it happen? Yeah, but you will have to search long and hard.

While I was typing this a coworker who exemplifies this - App football fan, Chapel Hill basketball fan, just stopped to ask me how football prep was coming.

[49RFootballNow]

Getting back on topic:

By virtue of our conference we’re now in the #6 spot in this state. Behind Tobacco Road and ECU. Playing App regularly gives them the chance to move us down to 7th place in public perception. Its the same reason the Holes and State fought tooth and nail against playing ECU and its why ECU wants nothing to do with playing us.

[ninermike]

[quote=“49RFootballNow, post:104, topic:28044”]Getting back on topic:

By virtue of our conference we’re now in the #6 spot in this state. Behind Tobacco Road and ECU. Playing App regularly gives them the chance to move us down to 7th place in public perception. Its the same reason the Holes and State fought tooth and nail against playing ECU and its why ECU wants nothing to do with playing us.[/quote]

You may have a point and our recruiting is starting to provide evidence of your claim. On the other hand, I would rather see a little humility and put ourselves as the #12 team in the state (or last of all football teams whatever that # is) until we actually play a game. If Gardner-Webb, NC Central or even Campbell take our lunch money do you still see us #6?

[eason49]

[quote=“49RFootballNow, post:104, topic:28044”]Getting back on topic:

By virtue of our conference we’re now in the #6 spot in this state. Behind Tobacco Road and ECU. Playing App regularly gives them the chance to move us down to 7th place in public perception. Its the same reason the Holes and State fought tooth and nail against playing ECU and its why ECU wants nothing to do with playing us.[/quote]

This.

Schedule up, not down.

[49RFootballNow]

[quote=“ninermike, post:105, topic:28044”][quote=“49RFootballNow, post:104, topic:28044”]Getting back on topic:

By virtue of our conference we’re now in the #6 spot in this state. Behind Tobacco Road and ECU. Playing App regularly gives them the chance to move us down to 7th place in public perception. Its the same reason the Holes and State fought tooth and nail against playing ECU and its why ECU wants nothing to do with playing us.[/quote]

You may have a point and our recruiting is starting to provide evidence of your claim. On the other hand, I would rather see a little humility and put ourselves as the #12 team in the state (or last of all football teams whatever that # is) until we actually play a game. If Gardner-Webb, NC Central or even Campbell take our lunch money do you still see us #6?[/quote]

1. Its not just about football. I was talking more of total athletics department.

2. If we lose to all three of them, especially Campbell< we might have a new coach in January.

[919R]

@casstommy

[quote=“919R, post:74, topic:28044”]Whatever you say----you could probably make the same case about NCAA appearances for someone out of the Pioneer league or MEAC as well. Out of that 3-5 Davidson record, all the wins were in one year. The others were 1st round exits. I think we’ve had a “handful of NIT wins” in the last decade as well (as if anyone cares about that). Thats the reality!..By your standards we should have just moved down to the lowest/easiest league possible so we “make the NCAAs” every year and we could then claim we’re better than anyone in the tough leagues that had less appearances than us…Good idea. LOL yourself.

You say things like “The others were first round exits” as if we have anything other than that to latch to. They have more NCAA success than we have had since 77. Its depressing as hell but its true.

I just dont get the dismissiveness some have of Davidson. I’d give my left nut to have the past decade they have. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.[/quote]

Dude, get over it. Davidson has won games in exactly 1 NCAA in the last 40+ years. Atleast we have won first round games numerous times over the last 20 years. Would I like to have more? Of course but you are falling victim to the “hoopla” that surrounded their 2008 team. Please tell me exactly what they have done from 1970-2007 or from 2009-2013. If you think one good run (one season) and ZERO at-large berths (ie; this means without the sorry SoCon auto bid they wouldnt even had made any other tourneys) is better than our 10 bids between 1988-2005 (most of which were at-large) with 3-4 first round wins then you are entitled to your opinion, however I disagree. I still would prefer our “regular” tourney bids over nearly 20 years more than I would one “cinderella run” like Davidson’s 2008.

[NinerWupAss]

@919R

better than our 10 bids between 1988-2005

That is the problem. They have been dancing while we have been sitting at home - to the general public nothing else matters, which means for almost a decade we are trailing Davidson in the media and public arena. How they got there or the why in our struggles don’t matter to the the public. All they know in the paper Davidson is playing in March and we aren’t and haven’t been.

[919R]

@ninermike

[quote=“casstommy, post:76, topic:28044”][quote=“919R, post:74, topic:28044”]Whatever you say----you could probably make the same case about NCAA appearances for someone out of the Pioneer league or MEAC as well. Out of that 3-5 Davidson record, all the wins were in one year. The others were 1st round exits. I think we’ve had a “handful of NIT wins” in the last decade as well (as if anyone cares about that). Thats the reality!..By your standards we should have just moved down to the lowest/easiest league possible so we “make the NCAAs” every year and we could then claim we’re better than anyone in the tough leagues that had less appearances than us…Good idea. LOL yourself.

You say things like “The others were first round exits” as if we have anything other than that to latch to. They have more NCAA success than we have had since 77. Its depressing as hell but its true.

I just dont get the dismissiveness some have of Davidson. I’d give my left nut to have the past decade they have. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.[/quote]

+1 Niners are a better all time program but Davidson wins the last decade. I’m ready for the tide to turn.[/quote]
Did they have a more “noticeable” ONE YEAR? Yes, of course, but we (on average) have still been the better team over the last 10 seasons. Look at our head-to-head (and admittedly this has been our worst decade since the 80s). Problem is, most observers don’t pay enough attention to that and only remember that one run of theirs, not that they have done exactly NOTHING the other 9 years of the decade.

[919R]

@NinerWupAss

[quote=“919R, post:108, topic:28044”]better than our 10 bids between 1988-2005

That is the problem. They have been dancing while we have been sitting at home - to the general public nothing else matters, which means for almost a decade we are trailing Davidson in the media and public arena. How they got there or the why in our struggles don’t matter to the the public. All they know in the paper Davidson is playing in March and we aren’t and haven’t been.[/quote]

This I agree with, absolutely. I can not argue the “general (know nothing) public” probably does think they are better than us. I am saying that just isnt true.

[Honest_Niner]

@919R

[quote=“casstommy, post:76, topic:28044”][quote=“919R, post:74, topic:28044”]Whatever you say----you could probably make the same case about NCAA appearances for someone out of the Pioneer league or MEAC as well. Out of that 3-5 Davidson record, all the wins were in one year. The others were 1st round exits. I think we’ve had a “handful of NIT wins” in the last decade as well (as if anyone cares about that). Thats the reality!..By your standards we should have just moved down to the lowest/easiest league possible so we “make the NCAAs” every year and we could then claim we’re better than anyone in the tough leagues that had less appearances than us…Good idea. LOL yourself.

You are both right. Statistically we are far superior to Davidson. Not to mention our continued head to head success against them. Beating them two years in a row is one of the positive signs for our team moving forward. That be being said I would say the majority of people do not watch college basketball until around February in order to help them fill out their brackets. So they don’s see or know of all the good we did. They just read the bubble sheets about who is in and who is out, and Davidson being in their backwater conference has almost guaranteed they would be in for years. So then you have ESPN and SI writing articles about all of the match ups, and underdogs that could pull and upset, and Davidson historically gets that ink. So if you ask an avg Joe they will assume Davidson is better because that’s who they were reading about last March. If the shoe were on the other foot it would be the same way. You will see Davidson’s perception take a huge hit once they join the A-10, and fail to make the tourney every year.

You say things like “The others were first round exits” as if we have anything other than that to latch to. They have more NCAA success than we have had since 77. Its depressing as hell but its true.

I just dont get the dismissiveness some have of Davidson. I’d give my left nut to have the past decade they have. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.[/quote]

Dude, get over it. Davidson has won games in exactly 1 NCAA in the last 40+ years. Atleast we have won first round games numerous times over the last 20 years. Would I like to have more? Of course but you are falling victim to the “hoopla” that surrounded their 2008 team. Please tell me exactly what they have done from 1970-2007 or from 2009-2013. If you think one good run (one season) and ZERO at-large berths (ie; this means without the sorry SoCon auto bid they wouldnt even had made any other tourneys) is better than our 10 bids between 1988-2005 (most of which were at-large) with 3-4 first round wins then you are entitled to your opinion, however I disagree. I still would prefer our “regular” tourney bids over nearly 20 years more than I would one “cinderella run” like Davidson’s 2008.[/quote]

[J_Felt]

I’d trade all of our first and even second round exits for one run to the Elite Eight like Davidson’s.

[Niner_National]

[quote=“J Felt, post:113, topic:28044”]I’d trade all of our first and even second round exits for one run to the Elite Eight like Davidson’s.[/quote]No doubt.

[casstommy]

@J Felt

I’d trade all of our first and even second round exits for one run to the Elite Eight like Davidson’s.

X 1000

This isnt rocket science. You can keep your second half collapses to NC State. I want the runs.

[919R]

@J Felt

I’d trade all of our first and even second round exits for one run to the Elite Eight like Davidson’s.

Thats OK, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I would not trade our last 20 years for theirs. I think of the fun we have had over the years (all the top 25 battles/wins against the Louisvilles, Cincys, Memphis and others) in the regular season and NCAA tourneys and no way would I trade all of that for a good 2 weeks.

[919R]

@casstommy

[quote=“J Felt, post:113, topic:28044”]I’d trade all of our first and even second round exits for one run to the Elite Eight like Davidson’s.

X 1000

This isnt rocket science. You can keep your second half collapses to NC State. I want the runs.[/quote]
You mean RUN, don’t you? and yes, thats all we’ve done over the last 20 years. One collapse to NCSU. :

[casstommy]

@919R

[quote=“casstommy, post:115, topic:28044”][quote=“J Felt, post:113, topic:28044”]I’d trade all of our first and even second round exits for one run to the Elite Eight like Davidson’s.

X 1000

This isnt rocket science. You can keep your second half collapses to NC State. I want the runs.[/quote]
You mean RUN, don’t you? and yes, thats all we’ve done over the last 20 years. One collapse to NCSU. ::)[/quote]

Sure. They came within a 3 at the buzzer from equaling our 1 and only tourney run. AND it happened after the Carter Administration.

[919R]

@casstommy

[quote=“919R, post:117, topic:28044”][quote=“casstommy, post:115, topic:28044”][quote=“J Felt, post:113, topic:28044”]I’d trade all of our first and even second round exits for one run to the Elite Eight like Davidson’s.

X 1000

This isnt rocket science. You can keep your second half collapses to NC State. I want the runs.[/quote]
You mean RUN, don’t you? and yes, thats all we’ve done over the last 20 years. One collapse to NCSU. ::)[/quote]

Sure. They came within a 3 at the buzzer from equaling our 1 and only tourney run. AND it happened after the Carter Administration.[/quote]
OK Cass, whatever you say. We suck, always have sucked and Davidson is virtually UCLA of the 60s.

Edit: After I saw your edit above. You are right and it is also quite possible to overrate Davidson and underrate our accomplishments. BTW, how long have you been following Charlotte? serious question.

[casstommy]

@919R

[quote=“casstommy, post:118, topic:28044”][quote=“919R, post:117, topic:28044”][quote=“casstommy, post:115, topic:28044”][quote=“J Felt, post:113, topic:28044”]I’d trade all of our first and even second round exits for one run to the Elite Eight like Davidson’s.

X 1000

This isnt rocket science. You can keep your second half collapses to NC State. I want the runs.[/quote]
You mean RUN, don’t you? and yes, thats all we’ve done over the last 20 years. One collapse to NCSU. ::)[/quote]

Sure. They came within a 3 at the buzzer from equaling our 1 and only tourney run. AND it happened after the Carter Administration.[/quote]
OK Cass, whatever you say. We suck, always have sucked and Davidson is virtually UCLA of the 60s. I’m done.[/quote]

Well now you’re just being dramatic.

Look man. You get far to defensive about these things. Its perfectly reasonable to love the niners and be disappointed with our lack of tourney success. Its totally possible to love the niners and believe that other teams have had better post season success than we have.

Theres no need for you to get butthurt over this stuff every time.