[QUOTE=49er96;212220]This one is not a coaching problemā¦this one is a recruiting problem. We just donāt have that one special player that can give this team a boost and we needed a boost in the 2nd half bad. Otherwise, Coleman played great. EJ played great. Leemire played very good. Not much from anyone else that I can remember. DA was held to pretty much nothing. Thought the D was pretty good, I donāt remember too many bad 3s, we went inside and did very well. During the GW run in the 2nd half (which I could feel coming) they hit some big shots as well.[/QUOTE]
Ironically it just seems to be a recruiting stretch, over the past 4 season's we've relied a ton on JUCO's. And honestly the players like Courtney Williams, Carlos Williams, and Sean Phaler haven't lived up to the expectations. We've relied heavily on JUCO big men Chris Nance, Courtney, Twon, and none have (did for Nance) put up consistently good numbers in their career. Jamison is only starting to blossom late in his senior season, EJ has been here 3 years and he is really the only one over his career here at Charlotte to produce nice numbers. Goldwire is the only 4-year guy of the 2004 class, but EJ has been here 3 years due to redshirt. Mullis would have been our only 4 year guy from the 2005 class, but he never saw the court.
Now we seem to be heading in the right direction, Lutz has Mox back, and this past class and the future class are getting more 4 year guys in. Booker and Dewhurst were both 3 stars coming out of HS and look for both of them to improve tremendously down the road. Ian has been a pleasant suprise and he looks like he will fall in line with the other great 3pt threats in Charlotte history.
For the 2007 class Jones (technically 2006 recruit) was a 3-star coming out of HS and should be a force inside. Wilderness is another 3-star 4 year guy who will provide us with another athlete. Gaby will help out on the inside and we only have one JUCO coming in in Whitehurst (whoās size will be effective for us.)
Our reliance on JUCOās seem to be fading and we are bringing in the 4 year players and developing.
Man,that was the most overoptimistic rant I ever read.I sure hope youāre right though,as opposed to my feeling that we are in the middle of a terribly mediocre cycle,with a lousy coach and no great prospects.Iād hate to wake up in 2008 and sayā¦āman,whats it been,like 5 years since we had hope!ā
[QUOTE=LakeNorman49er;207007]i believe you are correct.
even though the chancellor is opposed to it. he may not have the final say.[/QUOTE]
the chancellor is not opposed to football. never has been. mac everett cannot alone decide to have football. no one person will make this decision. moreover, if the study comes back and says football isnāt feasible, then it doesnāt matter who wants itā¦it wonāt happen.
[QUOTE=lucky57;212240]Man,that was the most overoptimistic rant I ever read.I sure hope youāre right though,as opposed to my feeling that we are in the middle of a terribly mediocre cycle,with a lousy coach and no great prospects.Iād hate to wake up in 2008 and sayā¦āman,whats it been,like 5 years since we had hope!ā[/QUOTE]
O RLY? Because I took off my green-tinted glasses. Dude I was just pointing out the fact about the amount of 4 year guys we are getting compared to 2 year guys. If you want to be pessimistic, go ahead, Iāve always found that optimism is the best way to go (even if you have to live with the let downs.) Of course if you are probably one of those people still whining about Michael Beasley (Yes I said his name).
[QUOTE=49erPress;212251]a recruiting problem is a coaching problem.[/QUOTE]
Wellā¦that is what I meant. I think the X + Os from Lutz today were good. We usually complain about the wild 3s and terrible defense. But for the most part, I thought we played well. The problem, which does rest on Lutzās shoulders, is that he has not recruited the one or two players who could really help this team. Maybe next year or the year after that one of the younger players or new recruits will step up and be the go to guy, who knows. The problem is that person is not here this year and we need one (or two) badly.
seriously people the average age of our team is probably 12 1/2 years old. Weāre a young team with some JUCOās plugged in. You can say its a recruiting problem, but it happens to every from time to time, no school is immune to it, generally theyāre just better programs and have an easier time landing on their feet. I believe we will be fine b/c we have/had (before injuries) 3 freshman seeing decent minutes and one seeing very good minutes (Ian). Give it time, you wanna complain this time next year, youāre argument will have more weight, but still not alot. We had a down year my freshman year (2002-2003) and we were pretty well off the following few years when everyone grew into their roles. Itās cyclical and sometimes better than before and sometimes and can be bleaker than other times, as well.
[QUOTE=CharSFNiners;212258]seriously people the average age of our team is probably 12 1/2 years old. Weāre a young team with some JUCOās plugged in. You can say its a recruiting problem, but it happens to every from time to time, no school is immune to it, generally theyāre just better programs and have an easier time landing on their feet. I believe we will be fine b/c we have/had (before injuries) 3 freshman seeing decent minutes and one seeing very good minutes (Ian). Give it time, you wanna complain this time next year, youāre argument will have more weight, but still not alot. We had a down year my freshman year (2002-2003) and we were pretty well off the following few years when everyone grew into their roles. Itās cyclical and sometimes better than before and sometimes and can be bleaker than other times, as well.[/QUOTE]
I thought the niners played very well today.Lutz did a good job of slowing the tempo of the game against a very athletic team.They stayed in the game with their best player (DA) not being able to get a good look.They got the ball inside and Coleman stepped up big but he canāt stay on the floor.GW started hitting their shots and played much harder in the second half.Niners played the same kind of defense in the first half but in the second have they hit shots.I donāt know what Lutz could have done different.
[QUOTE=49er96;212220]This one is not a coaching problemā¦this one is a recruiting problem. We just donāt have that one special player that can give this team a boost and we needed a boost in the 2nd half bad. Otherwise, Coleman played great. EJ played great. Leemire played very good. Not much from anyone else that I can remember. DA was held to pretty much nothing. Thought the D was pretty good, I donāt remember too many bad 3s, we went inside and did very well. During the GW run in the 2nd half (which I could feel coming) they hit some big shots as well.[/QUOTE]
Who do you think recruits? Itās the coaches. We lack disipline, plain and simple. There are alot of schools in the top 50 in RPI that we can out recruit. We lack the fundamentals of working as a team. We canāt fill the arena first and foremost because the team is not successful, but we also have a piss poor marketing budget and campaign for all 49er sports. Lack of attendance makes it difficult to recruit in addition to the issues that the A-10 conference presents us. Not to mention this is a non football school.
Since we donāt have football, basketball is our revenue sport and largest school event. It is really sad to see the direction the basketball program is going after the success in the late 90ās and early 2000ās. I truly thought we were building a solid program, but we have all seen it start fading away.
Where I think Lutz can be a complete moron in his coaching style, I think we just arenāt landing the recuits with solid basketball fundamentals. Our teams the last 3 years have reminded me of the And1 Team, free ballers. There is a reason those kids on And1 are not playing in the NBA or on a D-I basketball program. I think it is only a matter of time before this adminstration realized the effect of no football and the A-10 has had on all sports, if they have not already.
Itās a sad site in niner nation, as I can only remember the days when Cinncinnati would come into Halton with their top 10 ranking and we would bitch slap them and send them home. The crowds, the team, and the conference made for fun basketball. Oh those days seem so long ago.
[QUOTE=49erWhit;212272]Who do you think recruits? Itās the coaches. We lack disipline, plain and simple. There are alot of schools in the top 50 in RPI that we can out recruit. We lack the fundamentals of working as a team. We canāt fill the arena first and foremost because the team is not successful, but we also have a piss poor marketing budget and campaign for all 49er sports. Lack of attendance makes it difficult to recruit in addition to the issues that the A-10 conference presents us. Not to mention this is a non football school.
Since we donāt have football, basketball is our revenue sport and largest school event. It is really sad to see the direction the basketball program is going after the success in the late 90ās and early 2000ās. I truly thought we were building a solid program, but we have all seen it start fading away.
Where I think Lutz can be a complete moron in his coaching style, I think we just arenāt landing the recuits with solid basketball fundamentals. Our teams the last 3 years have reminded me of the And1 Team, free ballers. There is a reason those kids on And1 are not playing in the NBA or on a D-I basketball program. I think it is only a matter of time before this adminstration realized the effect of no football and the A-10 has had on all sports, if they have not already.
Itās a sad site in niner nation, as I can only remember the days when Cinncinnati would come into Halton with their top 10 ranking and we would bitch slap them and send them home. The crowds, the team, and the conference made for fun basketball. Oh those days seem so long ago.[/QUOTE]
Quit harping about the old CUSA days, weāre in the A-10 deal with it. Whatās done is done. We just need to figure out how to win in the A-10 and get to the tournment and win in the tournament. Xavier, Dayton, GW, URI, Temple, etc. have done it in the past, thereās no reason why we shouldnāt. Your just wasting your time looking back at the CUSA because unless you have a time machine weāre not heading back there anytime soon.
[QUOTE=Ninerballin;212285]Quit harping about the old CUSA days, weāre in the A-10 deal with it. Whatās done is done. We just need to figure out how to win in the A-10 and get to the tournment and win in the tournament. Xavier, Dayton, GW, URI, Temple, etc. have done it in the past, thereās no reason why we shouldnāt. Your just wasting your time looking back at the CUSA because unless you have a time machine weāre not heading back there anytime soon.[/QUOTE]
Hey jackass, all I am saying is I miss the old days when going to a niners game was fun and we actually played like a team.
[QUOTE=49er96;212255]Wellā¦that is what I meant. I think the X + Os from Lutz today were good. We usually complain about the wild 3s and terrible defense. But for the most part, I thought we played well. The problem, which does rest on Lutzās shoulders, is that he has not recruited the one or two players who could really help this team. Maybe next year or the year after that one of the younger players or new recruits will step up and be the go to guy, who knows. The problem is that person is not here this year and we need one (or two) badly.[/QUOTE]
I disagreeā¦he HAS recruited the one or two players that could push this program forward. The problem is he hasnāt landed them, even after they verballed to come here. Thereās always a more persuasive figure in the shadow suading the big time names to go to tradional powerhouses. Or an undermining A$$HOLE like Bob huggins that uses dirty tactics to steal recruits. How many times have we gotten screwed in this area in the past few years?? This time last year we were pumped about the futureā¦then everything fell apartā¦AGAIN! Beasleyā¦Wildernessā¦Jonesā¦Iām just frustrated, not necesarily faulting Lutz. And if you donāt think Lutz is frustrated and pissed by the chain of events your definitely holding on to that crackpipe to tight.
[QUOTE=sf49er;212300]Please donāt be suprised when we have a new coach after this season.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately not gonna happen.No decent school is going to hire Lutz,and Judy is too accepting of the status quo.Until someone lights a fire under her ass and threatens her job its all moot.
Interesting how this thread was inactive for about three weeks but comes alive after a loss. You guys who want Lutz fired should keep complaining when we are winning if you want to be taken seriously.